Star Wars Thread

Your favourite movie in Star Wars

  • The Phantom Menace

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Attack of the Clones

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Revenge of the Sith

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • A New Hope

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • The Empire Strikes Back

    Votes: 19 51.4%

  • Return of the Jedi

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • The Force Awakens

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • Total voters
    37
I was more interested in discussing the feasibility of a lightsaber in the real world (the known universe). Of course I don't care about the feasibility of it in a fictional universe and especially when there are things like the Force. It sounds simple, but if we could suspend a barrier in space, then that would be one solution to the lightsaber, but for a "lightsaber", that knowledge is unknown.
 
I'm more interested in a civilization who can create hardened light and weaponize it, then decide to use this amazing technology in glorified daggers or arm useless non-aiming doofuses with it, oh and let's wear robes to protect ourselves!

I was never much of a Star Wars fan
 
Mr Fish said:
(I guess I'm gonna have to do this)
TRIGGER WARNING: If you are a Star Wars fan then you are not going to like this. If you do not like to get a high blood pressure and a feeling of rage surging through your veins then do not read this post.
Boring main character.
Leia is like a wooden plank.
I do not understand why Han Solo is so loved. Yeah, he's got 'some' personality but what little there isn't exactly enough to thrill me. It's better than nothing I suppose. Oh and Han shot first.
C-3PO R2D2's noises are like knives to my ears.
I like the gold robot, he's sensible and got character.
The walking furball is annoying and the idea that it can communicate with "AAAaaAAAUUurgh!" with Solo is just dumb to me. No, surely the human mind is capable of distinguishing between "AAAaaAAAUUurgh!" which means "Mr Solo, I'm afraid that the cooling system has taken a hit and is in immediate need of reparations" and "AAAaaAAAUurgh!" which means "Mr Solo, please cum inside of me instead of taking it out at the last second. The cum is terribly difficult to clean out of my fur."

The space magicians (Jedi's and Sith's) seems to be capable of whatever magic the writer felt like at the time and just feel forced to me. I'd prefer it if "the force" handled 'one' thing and 'one' thing only. Like mind-powers or telekinesis or electric fingers. But throwing all of it together into one package just feels, well... Dumb. It's like Superman. Oh he's super strong, cause muscles. And he can fly! Cause... Reasons. And X-Ray vision! And this and that! It feels like a child's idea of writing a "power", can't just be one thing, it's whatever the child comes up with that they think is cool at the time.

And then we have the lightsabers... I... No. No, how the fuck is a beam of continual energy supposed to just suddenly know when to stop?

But whatever, we got energy swords cause cool factor +2.

And here we got a big issue IMO.... If the space magicians have reflexes that are so incredibly fast that they are able to use their thing energy blades to strike at a beam of energy shot at the magician and deflect it then I gotta ask.... Why... Don't... They... Use... Guns? Laser Pistol or whatever I DON'T CARE! If their reflexes are 'that' inhumanly quick then why limit yourself to a fucking melee weapon? Why not just use a gun? If you're so fast and precise that you can divert a fucking beam of light (which travels how fast exactly?) then a space magician with a gun would be unstoppable. But I know why they only use the light sabers. Want me to spoil it? It's cause... Come on now, get closer... It's cause it's cooler when they use a sword.

Oh and the fact that the death star is actually, with a straight face, called a "Death Star".

Rule of cool from the mind of a child (Lucas).

And the actual story itself is just overly long and boring. Should've ended with the first film instead of going for "no we're totally with a straight face going to reuse the plans for the "DEATH STAR"". It's centered around a bunch of wooden characters that are good guys that are going toe to toe with the bad guys cause in the bedtime stories that Mrs Lucas used to read to lil George it was always about the good vs evil and taught oh so wonderful realistic real world expectations on morality.

I can't stand stories that are centered largely around good vs evil.

Those are some of my issues with Star Wars and why I think it is silly and dumb.
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THANK YOU!!!

Thanks for providing an actual criticism on Star Wars that isn't just 'Star Wars is trash'. It's an interesting read but I just have one little problem... how the fuck can you miss the fact that the story is supposed to be a bedtime story. Did you actually watch a film with a damsel in distress, naive farmboy who becomes a hero, one dimensional villains and a corny plot to save the galaxy and actually expect it to be realistic? It's called escapism... Lucas based it on the myths of the past, aka, good guy hero goes on an epic quest to stop evil. Ever heard of Joseph Cambell or the Super Myth? Obviously not, you just come in with the expectation that this is going to be a realistic story with grey morality.

Mr Fish, you've basically missed the entire fucking point of Star Wars.
 
Dr Fallout said:
I just have one little problem... how the fuck can you miss the fact that the story is supposed to be a bedtime story. Did you actually watch a film with a damsel in distress, naive farmboy who becomes a hero, one dimensional villains and a corny plot to save the galaxy and actually expect it to be realistic?
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>_>

I watched it (the original trilogy + EP1 and EP2) when I was 15 or 16. Excuse-i-fucking-moi for enjoying it when I was that age and then growing up to disdain it when a decade has passed and my tastes have refined.

Dr Fallout said:
It's called escapism... Lucas based it on the myths of the past, aka, good guy hero goes on an epic quest to stop evil.
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And I personally do not care for that sort of narrative. :shrug:

Dr Fallout said:
Ever heard of Joseph Cambell or the Super Myth? Obviously not...
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I have heard of him and that but what he did and what "super myth" means is something that never burned itself into my brain. So, I guess no. I have not. And I especially hadn't heard of that stuff when I was 15. So what? Was that a prerequisite for enjoying Star Wars?

Dr Fallout said:
Mr Fish, you've basically missed the entire fucking point of Star Wars.
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No?
I understand the point of it. I just find it to be trash.

I also get why certain people like to stick eels in their ass but to me that just comes across as unsanitary.
 
Mr Fish said:
I watched it (the original trilogy + EP1 and EP2) when I was 15 or 16. Excuse-i-fucking-moi for enjoying it when I was that age and then growing up to disdain it when a decade has passed and my tastes have refined.
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'my tastes have refined' Oh I see... oh I do apologize for my untoward behavior. I did not comprehend that I was discussing these matters with a man of class, who of course must only see the... garbage of Star Wars from an overly expectant viewpoint. I do hope you will not take offence, and continue seeing everything from a single viewpoint and then discarding it if lacks refinement.

Mr Fish said:
And I personally do not care for that sort of narrative. :shrug:
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Fair enough, it's too simple I agree. It's too unrealistic... instead I go read the paper on the political infighting of Mexico. Now that provides me with a realistic story that has grey morality! (Seriously though, it's why I love history).

Mr Fish said:
I have heard of him and that but what he did and what "super myth" means is something that never burned itself into my brain. So, I guess no. I have not. And I especially hadn't heard of that stuff when I was 15. So what? Was that a prerequisite for enjoying Star Wars?
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This is OT but I'm noticing that while kids may have poorer tastes and are more selfish, it does seem that they know more about world affairs. I know 12 year olds that understand the situation in Syria or Palestine! I also know kids who the 'Right is Right' view of things, and say that the Muslims are evil rapists trying to steal our land and destroy our culture.

Mr Fish said:
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No?
I understand the point of it. I just find it to be trash.

I also get why certain people like to stick eels in their ass but to me that just comes across as unsanitary.
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It's trash because you've looked at it at a totally wrong viewpoint. Your 15 year old self got it right. You look at it like how I look at New Vegas or Fallout 3. With a much different expectation then star wars expects.
 
Dr Fallout said:
'my tastes have refined' Oh I see... oh I do apologize for my untoward behavior. I did not comprehend that I was discussing these matters with a man of class, who of course must only see the... garbage of Star Wars from an overly expectant viewpoint. I do hope you will not take offence, and continue seeing everything from a single viewpoint and then discarding it if lacks refinement.


Fair enough, it's too simple I agree. It's too unrealistic... instead I go read the paper on the political infighting of Mexico. Now that provides me with a realistic story that has grey morality! (Seriously though, it's why I love history).


This is OT but I'm noticing that while kids may have poorer tastes and are more selfish, it does seem that they know more about world affairs. I know 12 year olds that understand the situation in Syria or Palestine! I also know kids who the 'Right is Right' view of things, and say that the Muslims are evil rapists trying to steal our land and destroy our culture.


It's trash because you've looked at it at a totally wrong viewpoint. Your 15 year old self got it right. You look at it like how I look at New Vegas or Fallout 3. With a much different expectation then star wars expects.
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Yeah, I'm done here. Not gonna entertain this little temper tantrum of yours.
 
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This thread has spun out of control enough as it is. I'm continuing this in a PM with Dr Fallout.
 
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R.Graves said:
@Dr Fallout @Mr Fish's criticisms were valid. I've always hated the use "it's escapism" or "suspension of disbelief" to excuse bad writing or inconsistencies or nonsense plot/ setting.
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But that's the thing, no where did Mr Fish mention the plot being nonsensical from inconsistencies but merely because it's stupid cliched fare. Which is the point of Star Wars.

Edit: If Mr Fish did, then please mention them.
 
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