Subm. Dragon Age: Origins

Discussion in '50 RPGs per Hour' started by Dragula, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. Riven326

    Riven326 First time out of the vault

    74
    Dec 2, 2015
    The one thing that really bothers me about Dragon Age is the complete lack of anything original. It's basically a generic fantasy game propped up by great voice acting, pretty good writing, and some interesting and fun characters. That was enough to make me keep playing and ultimately enjoying the game immensely. But I would like to see a more original fantasy game from BioWare in the future.
     
  2. woo1108

    woo1108 Vault Senior Citizen

    Sep 27, 2012
    Even this game is in the list..
     
  3. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    Doubt it since all they have made since have been shit.

    And your sad point being..?
     
  4. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I never played Dragon Age Inquisition because Dragon Age 2 ruined the franchise for me. I never played Mass Effect 3 either after playing 1 and 2. Are either Inquisition or Mass Effect 3 worth it at this point?
     
  5. beans00

    beans00 It Wandered In From the Wastes

    163
    Nov 19, 2009
    I think I got maybe 4-5 hours into it and got bored and quit, level played or will play DA2 or 3. Way too generic and the forced companions are way too annoying. And I know you don't actually have to bring them around but they're still technically with you and you need to use them for certain parts of the story.

    I actually had to look her up on the dragon age wiki to remember her but morrigan looks like a crack whore and if a game tells me i need to bring a crack whore with me I stop playing lol(even though i kept playing for a while after i got her)

    Maybe this game is fun if you like generic fantasy but then again I wasn't the biggest fan of the BG games either so I don't think i was apart of their target audience :P
     
  6. KingWhurlder

    KingWhurlder First time out of the vault

    5
    Nov 12, 2015
    I don't find it all that surprising that this forum generally isn't a huge fan of more recent Bioware efforts, but I fucking love DA:O. If you were to judge someones favorite game based solely on how much they play, it would easily be at the top of my list.

    I can't even remember just how many runs of that game I've gone through and I've never really gotten bored of it ever since it came out 6 years ago.
     
  7. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    DA:I brought back the writing of the first (IMO, but a lot don't agree) but it didn't bring back the gameplay depth. So basically the lore and overall plot is fine but the boring, repetitive, lets-not-think-too-hard gameplay had me bored shortly after finishing the prologue, which was about 2-3 hours long. Never finished DA:I as a result.

    If you're fine with sitting through hours of unbearably boring snorefests to experience a good story, okay. But really, reading a book would be more productive of your free time.

    It's not like books have thirty blank pages in between every chapter, which is basically what Inquisition is - a good book with thirty blank pages every other chapter.

    Mass Effect 3 is okay, mostly third-person shooting and not much of an RPG. It's even less of an RPG than ME2, so I would just classify it as action-adventure. The plot sorts of wings it, hangs around, and falls apart by the end.

    I would recommend Inquisition more than I recommend ME3 in the sense that 2/10 is more than 1/10.
     
  8. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    Inquisition is a piece of shit.
     
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  9. cordelionreaver

    cordelionreaver Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    306
    Nov 29, 2015
    Dallish Inquisitor: "Who is Mythal?"

    DA:I is a bit odd with an elven Inquisitor, where they don't know their own culture and history.

     
  10. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I actually went ahead and gave in to the preposterous price of Mass Effect 3 (buying that game costs more than Fallout 4 if you want the singleplayer DLCs). Despite the ridiculously high price, I thought the game itself was great overall EXCEPT for the glaring lack of responsiveness/consequences to your actions throughout Mass Effect 1 and 2, which was a major selling point of the game. However, overall I loved the entire series, and ME3 was a decent ending to the story despite the fact it's not really an RPG.

    The "indoctrination theory" explains the ending really well. I saw the Synthesis ending first and then replayed the whole series and did the Destroy ending. I'm very impressed at the idea of indoctrination theory as a way to explain the ending. And for me, the ending was not bad. With all the DLC, the overall story is fine - great even.

    As for Dragon Age: Inquisition, I doubt I will be price insensitive enough to throw an enormous amount of money for that game like with ME3.
     
  11. KingWhurlder

    KingWhurlder First time out of the vault

    5
    Nov 12, 2015
    Not to give anything away, but Elves in Dragon Age actually DON'T know their own history. Not really, at least.
     
  12. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    "Enormous amounts of money"

    Do all of you live in Africa or something? Most adult people burn more than that on a night out.
     
  13. valcik

    valcik So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Dec 20, 2008
    That's a matter of principle. Paying fair price for quality alcohol is alright in my book, paying overblown price for worthless piece of software is not. In fact, such philosophy as yours is harmful to gaming industry, because developers know that there's plenty of such customers as you, who will gladly pay ridiculous amount of money even for utter garbage. That's why they keep producing overpriced plagiarized shit and still are getting away with it, isn't it? Minimal effort invested, maximum profit granted. Fuck it.
     
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  14. ZigzagPX4

    ZigzagPX4 The Swiftness of the Ranger

    Nov 22, 2015
    I've never actually played a 60 dollar video game that wasn't worth my money. Most of the time, I never feel like I wasted the money, since there's always more entertainment value than in a set of multiple movies I could get for the same price. I would usually expect it to be more than just "worth my money", but the production value and detail put into gameplay and graphics in most AAA games always pays out. But that isn't always a good thing.

    AAA games cater to audiences that are easy to please, shy away from innovation, avoid risks, and take cues from other games based on their sales. So they're somewhat repetitive, and you start to see the same game in many different games. The thing about this is that I consider a bad game made with the intention of exploring new ideas BETTER than a good game that plays it safe without introducing anything new.

    You can't discover what works if you stick with only what you know. Large corporations like EA force their devs to not take risks because of the investments involved, but they're perfectly capable of imitating other games that sells well. The best way to convince companies like EA and Ubisoft to make better games and treat their customers better is to give your money to the games you want to see, by devs that you want more of. As a result, they get rich, EA turns to see that devs like this are the ones that get rich, and change their business tactics accordingly. All it takes is one publisher that treats its community very well to do better than all the other publishers for one year, and suddenly you'll see a bunch of publishers turning tail and moving towards this approach.

    Honestly, I think it's just generation stagnation (or whatever the hell its supposed to be called). Once this generation of late millenials and post-millenials who were raised on video games are the people in charge of companies, occupying the seats for the board of directors, then we'll see a slight shift if not an entire landslide towards less business catering and more making actual games. Even the ones that didn't really care for games will have grown up in a culture where games aren't stigmatised as being either harmful or a waste of time.

    Until then, it's just a waiting game. This microtransactions, pre-order DLC, development based on predictive analysts, cold corporate appraoch to game development, is IMO just a fad that has existed and will continue to exist longer than any other trends. But it's still just a somewhat temporary thing. It's not the "bleak future of gaming" as so many are worried it will be. It's just stagnation, and a period in which nothing new or out of the ordinary happens.

    sorry for going off-topic
     
  15. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Mass Effect 3 with all the singleplayer DLC was somewhere around $70 IN DECEMBER 2015. THat is an enormous amount of money for a game from 2012. The DLC NEVER goes on sale for that game, even during Christmas as far as I saw.
     
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  16. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    No idea how much DLC, but I find it for about 10€ for just the base game.
     
  17. Spacemunkey

    Spacemunkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 4, 2015
    The best part of this game is that no matter what type of character you play the darkspawn are a threat, you can be a human hating dalish, a chantry loving noble, a chantry hating mage, a money grubbing carta dwarf, doesn't matter darkspawn have to go. I do have a few nitpicks; I was playing a dwarf noble and in conversation with Leliana i asked if she spied on Ferelden, not Orzammar, just little things that made it clear human noble was the character the game was written for. I also can't say I was a huge fan of the DLC Awakenings all that much, but Witch Hunt and Wardens Keep are worth the money. It's a shame this franchise went from a really good RPG, to an action game,and now an offline MMO, they really need to go back to what made the series good. I have put a lot of hours into this game though, enough to take the subsequent treatment of the Grey Wardens in the sequels personal.
     
  18. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    So you have no idea how much the game costs but you're saying I "live in Africa" because I think it costs too much?

    The base game is cheap because the DLC costs as much as it did when first released and ends up costing 6 times as much as the base game. I got all three ME games for about $15 (ME3 is $10 if you buy it alone), and if you buy all the DLC JUST FOR MASS EFFECT 3 (not even counting the other games) it adds up to around $80 or $90. This is almost 4 years after the game came out.

    Was it still a good purchase? For me, yes. I enjoyed the whole series very much. The content was quality and I think it's a wonderful video game series. But that is a LOT of money for a 3-4 year old game, and thinking that doesn't mean I "live in Africa."
     
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  19. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    Bundle were about 30€ during holiday sale.
     
  20. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    The DLC for ME 3 doesn't go on sale as far as I have seen. And these people seem to agree:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/2eif5q/does_mass_effect_3_dlc_ever_go_on_sale/

    Unless you're playing on console which apparently had some sales for ME1/2 DLC, ME3 is prohibitively expensive to play. And I'm not going to argue pedantic things like "waiting for sales" when the DLC is never on sale. I just bought this game in December I think I know what it cost. I checked during the holiday sale and the DLC wasn't on sale. If you play on PC you have to use special Bioware Points rather than a normal transaction to purchase the DLC.

    Perhaps do some research before insulting people's financial situation and calling people poor and claiming they "live in Africa" next time:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/3gdzbs/lets_talk_about_mass_effect_dlcs_cost/
     
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