Switzerland Bans Violent Videogames
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Huh, i guess that as a concerned swiss-citizen a few words are in order
Making new Laws takes quite some time here. The national council just decided that the government has to make a proposal for a law to prohibite violent games. Depending on the field concerned the gov-ernment sometimes amuses itself for years on something like that. First they have to define the mean-ing of words like "violent" "game" "human" "humanlike" "rewarded" etc. Then they do some legal checking out to see if the new law would be in violation of the constitution, human rights or some inter-national treaty Switzerland signed. Or they realize what the introduction and enforcement of such a law would cost and scrap the whole thing. There are a fair lot of motions that ask for a Law (or the abolish-ment of an existing law) that never actually make it. Even if they work something out and put it to the vote to the national council, there is the possibility for a referendum (veto). If anyone can gather 50'000 signatures in three months, the whole thing gets decided by a nationwide vote. I guess a veto would be a given in this case. 50k people is not a problem and I look forward to an emotionally charged debate conducted by people who have no fucking clue about what they are talking about.
But it will be years before anything like that happens. Interesting thing, politically speaking, is that the debate isn’t raging so much between the different partys but between the different age groups inside the partys.
@fedaykin: Yes, yes, the SVP-Posters. This is from one of the four big partys (well, now 5) and while quite powerful, they don’t represent all, not even a quarter, of the population. They are famous for going the propaganda-way instead of the reasonable debate-way. While I agree that the so called tolerance and humanitarism of Switzerland is going downhill and accelerating fast, I feel somewhat insulted by you throwing me in the same corner as those xenophobic chauvinist hypocrites from the SVP. Please stop it or at least write "the swiss, except arden and one or two chaps he might know, are intolerant" Thanks
@ausdoertt: there is no such thing as schwitzerdütsch, there is berndütsch, züridütsch, baslerdütsch. and a shitload of other different dialects even in the same province. If you travel 20 miles inside Swit-zerland you feel like a foreigner.
To your question about autonomy of the regions: in this case it would be a detailed federal law and thus the separate cantons (provinces) would have to follow it too. In other fields, the federal law is pretty vague and leaves it to the provinces to work out the details how they like. But as soon as international trading, imports and exports are concerned, it makes no sense to leave it to the cantons.
Making new Laws takes quite some time here. The national council just decided that the government has to make a proposal for a law to prohibite violent games. Depending on the field concerned the gov-ernment sometimes amuses itself for years on something like that. First they have to define the mean-ing of words like "violent" "game" "human" "humanlike" "rewarded" etc. Then they do some legal checking out to see if the new law would be in violation of the constitution, human rights or some inter-national treaty Switzerland signed. Or they realize what the introduction and enforcement of such a law would cost and scrap the whole thing. There are a fair lot of motions that ask for a Law (or the abolish-ment of an existing law) that never actually make it. Even if they work something out and put it to the vote to the national council, there is the possibility for a referendum (veto). If anyone can gather 50'000 signatures in three months, the whole thing gets decided by a nationwide vote. I guess a veto would be a given in this case. 50k people is not a problem and I look forward to an emotionally charged debate conducted by people who have no fucking clue about what they are talking about.
But it will be years before anything like that happens. Interesting thing, politically speaking, is that the debate isn’t raging so much between the different partys but between the different age groups inside the partys.
@fedaykin: Yes, yes, the SVP-Posters. This is from one of the four big partys (well, now 5) and while quite powerful, they don’t represent all, not even a quarter, of the population. They are famous for going the propaganda-way instead of the reasonable debate-way. While I agree that the so called tolerance and humanitarism of Switzerland is going downhill and accelerating fast, I feel somewhat insulted by you throwing me in the same corner as those xenophobic chauvinist hypocrites from the SVP. Please stop it or at least write "the swiss, except arden and one or two chaps he might know, are intolerant" Thanks
@ausdoertt: there is no such thing as schwitzerdütsch, there is berndütsch, züridütsch, baslerdütsch. and a shitload of other different dialects even in the same province. If you travel 20 miles inside Swit-zerland you feel like a foreigner.
To your question about autonomy of the regions: in this case it would be a detailed federal law and thus the separate cantons (provinces) would have to follow it too. In other fields, the federal law is pretty vague and leaves it to the provinces to work out the details how they like. But as soon as international trading, imports and exports are concerned, it makes no sense to leave it to the cantons.
Ausdoerrt said:
It does
. That is one of the reasons why a lot of swiss-germans don’t like talking „hochdeutsch“ to germans. They know it sounds stupid. Germans then think the swiss arrogant because they talk in dialect even if they can speak german (in school they speak german. Written language is german, germans usually have the hang of dialects in a manner of a week or two). But there is no way in hell some swiss will embarrass themselves in front of a german. 
Germans like to make fun of us. If a swiss appears in a german movie they often make them look like slightly retarded, somewhat embarrassing but also cute little polite backwoods farmers.
Ah the same like what we Dutch do with Belgians.
And what we do to Russians, when they're not looking, of course.
