The drummer is at the wrong gig

verevoof said:
I don't know, rockabilly bassists have some pretty interesting material.
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Talking quantity, not quality. The amount of interesting stuff for bass and drums is a lot less than for many other instruments, mainly due to the only people writing interesting things for them is those who actually play bass and drums.

SuAside said:
But singing about a sharply dressed man in THOSE CLOTHES? WTF is wrong with your americunts?
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They missed the memo that it isn't the 50's anymore.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
They missed the memo that it isn't the 50's anymore.
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Noooo! When did this happen?!

I actually wanted to be a drummer when I was a child. Then I realized that I am way too lazy.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
Talking quantity, not quality. The amount of interesting stuff for bass and drums is a lot less than for many other instruments, mainly due to the only people writing interesting things for them is those who actually play bass and drums.
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For me as a drummer I can appreciate a grooving but simple rhythm a lot more than an intricate but poorly fitting part. And with drums and bass a lot of intricate parts turn out to be poor fits.

It's a lot more satisfying to make music than it is to play a complicated piece.
 
Surf solar, you are so full of shit and should just go fuck yourself.


The Drummer is cool, not my thing but cool.

No one gives a shit about your band.

Your drummer is a fagot for putting up with you.

Your avatar is horrible.

Go fuck yourself.
 
Sander said:
For me as a drummer I can appreciate a grooving but simple rhythm a lot more than an intricate but poorly fitting part. And with drums and bass a lot of intricate parts turn out to be poor fits.
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I think that it's a lot easier to write complicated bass parts that work with other instruments than it is to write complicated drum pieces that work with the rest of the piece. I think it's partly due to the nature of drums, I think they are fundamentally a rhythm instrument.
 
Now imagine if that lunatic had a drum kit like this…:shock:…incidentally Frank Zappa use to write the drum solo’s for his performers, rather than just letting them go wild at the end of some guitar solo, I suppose the sound from a drum kit is made up of some form of notes, but we don’t always think about it.

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Pfff. We don't think about it?

What the fuck?

Maybe you all don't think about it, because you all are a morons, with shitty taste in music, spoon-fed yuppie and eurotarded fuckheads. Go listen to fuckin' steely dan and fuckin Eve 6 and whatever the fuck else bullshit and keep fucking talking shit. Moronic fuckin protools and goddamn fucking DJ shit copy and paste bars in 4/4 retard beats on goddamn repeat banging your empty head against a steel fucking beam while fucking yourselves, swallowing X like it's a fucking glass of water.

Jesus fuck


I'm surprised Sander isn't posting more about this.




Whatever. Fuck it.


Jesus fucking christ.
 
I’m not trying to dismiss drumming or percussion…and I admit I don’t know anything about drumming, other than what my ears like, and I like Terry Bozzio: The black Page . Frank Zappa. :roll:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQt2inyxNNg[/youtube]
 
Maybe Sander isn't replying because you talk bullshit, my beloved ))<>(( ?

As one who did some drumming in a cover band for over 2 years, it's really more enjoying to have: A Single Bass Drum. A Hit Hat. A simple rhythm. It is an art to play really tight with drums/bass, so yes, every totally complicated line in music rips apart some fun in making music for me.
 
You know why Rock music, jazz and parts of blues exist?

Percussion.

The driving force behind modern music.

The thing in the band that lets 5 guys get together and accent melodic instruments instead of using 50 people.

The thing that allows the electric guitar to breath instead of drone, before this the steel string acoustic was was lost to and ensemble of musicians bellowing out melody, usually from a whole rhythm section of brass and various percussive instruments.

Oh and imagine being the entire bedrock of the band, the base of the pyramid, having to accent every single instrument and melody whilst at the same time create a grove within the time signature and diversify chops with specific instruments within the kit "hi-hats , snares, toms, kicks, rides, crashes," and that is just the pieces the specific drummer decides to add to his kit, based on his skill and the needs of the other band sections. You have to specify crescendos, progressions, create consonance and dissonance with melodic pieces, ect.

Ohh yeah his skill, yeah. Imagine what it feels like to jerk off for 45 minutes straight at full speed while jogging and chainsmoking.

That's what it feels like to play drums if you are not in shape.

Btw, Terry Bozzio? He's always talked about, but for me he never has any feel in his playing for me.

How about Morgan Agren?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXzmW-4Z6ms[/youtube]

Aloke Dutta

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lgxNteKYmw[/youtube]


Ginger Baker

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=xYo3w_SQTLw&feature=related[/youtube]

Danny Carey

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcEW1no38KU[/youtube]

Whatever.


Surf Solar said:
Maybe Sander isn't replying because you talk bullshit, my beloved ))<>(( ?

As one who did some drumming in a cover band for over 2 years, it's really more enjoying to have: A Single Bass Drum. A Hit Hat. A simple rhythm. It is an art to play really tight with drums/bass, so yes, every totally complicated line in music rips apart some fun in making music for me.
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LOLOLOL

See, you are full of shit, because you apparently didn't do anything else besides simple rudiments with your playing. I mean, it is difficult, so I don't blame you there. So I guess you can keeping jerking yourself off with your own stupid preferences.
 
Those notes look...err difficult, but WTF do I know I’m not a musician and obviously people do write their drum scores down.

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Im not saying it's not difficult. Im saying it has no feel for me.
 
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Surf Solar said:
Maybe Sander isn't replying because you talk bullshit, my beloved ))<>(( ?

As one who did some drumming in a cover band for over 2 years, it's really more enjoying to have: A Single Bass Drum. A Hit Hat. A simple rhythm. It is an art to play really tight with drums/bass, so yes, every totally complicated line in music rips apart some fun in making music for me.
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LOLOLOL

See, you are full of shit, because you apparently didn't do anything else besides simple rudiments with your playing. I mean, it is difficult, so I don't blame you there. So I guess you can keeping jerking yourself off with your own stupid preferences.
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LOLOLOL you too?

As if I only know the 4/4 beat. As if I only know how to play a straight line with rudimental instrumenrts. :roll: Really, shit is going on my nerves... Of course it is fun to play technical advanced stuff etc.. But you may have missed the "Me" parts in my post? And no, I am far from jerking off to myself playing etc, because I still have to learn many things.
 
You are all wonderful human beings and you all have interesting views regarding drumming.

That any good?

I like the Moby Dick drumsolo by Led Zep. Is that okay?
 
I will show you that bass isn't as easy and simple as you think, it has probably more picking techniques than guitars and you can make more groove sounds with it than with guitars. Even though I am not a big fan of basses I listened to this like 10 times in a row yesterday

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wow, this discussion is dumb. arguing about what's interesting and not interesting to play? how about it's up to each and everyone what they themselves find fun and interesting to do with their favorite instrument? it's like arguing about who has the "correct" taste in music.
 
Whatever you do technically behind the drums, the most important thing you have to do is keep the time and keep the feel of the song. Vinnie Colaiuta knows this like no one else, while he's also one of the most accomplished drummers out there. To me, these two songs epitomise what it is to be a good drummer:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3iG6saD1w[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=920BnH5bRJk[/youtube]

Using your mastery of the instrument to further the sound of the song, but playing wholly in service of the music. Some drummers do this better than others, and some just get into the territory of technical wankery.
But this can come in a lot of shapes and forms. One man in the metal scene who I think does this really well is Nevermore's Van Williams:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMY_QDldDQE[/youtube]
 
))<>(( said:
Surf solar, you are so full of shit and should just go fuck yourself.


The Drummer is cool, not my thing but cool.

No one gives a shit about your band.

Your drummer is a fagot for putting up with you.

Your avatar is horrible.

Go fuck yourself.
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U mad bro?

Anyway, I think that drummer has the right idea, entertain the listeners instead of bore them with the same old.
 
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