The E3 is around again ! How awesome is that !

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No seriously. It is. Why? Cause of all the trailers to games ! Games? Trailers ? Yes! All of them or at least most of the trailers are A W E S O M E. And thats the only reason to love the E3 ;)

Take the Trailer from Deus Ex Human revolution for example. Someone remember the "teaser" ?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkXCE8CkNZU[/youtube]

Actualy it came out this "teaser" was a "trailer" for the "trailer" which we will see at the E3 for example [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOXO21HXk0&feature=related
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The people responsible for the Trailer are ? Visual Work (a branch of Squaresoft in Tokio responsible for example for Final Fantasy: Advent Children).

Though whats saying that ? Not much so far. But think again !

The E3 trailer has cost a few million dollar. One can assume that parts of the trailer might be in the game as cut scenes. But we have to wait and see. ~ while I have not seen any REAL evidence or confirmation that this trailer was entirely done with ingame graphic (compared to the Crysis 2 trailer for example We have to wait and see if that will prove to be more then just hype though.) people all over the internet already now droll over the shown "quality" in it and how awesome it is looking.

Thing is that currently many game developing companies give a lot of money out for trailers, advertising and marketing in general. The PR work many times today is outperforming the actual production cost of the game itself.

Valve for example spend for Left 4 dead somewhat 10 Million dollar just for the marketing and advertising.

Halo 3 got even 40 Million !

LA Times even credited Modern Warfare 2 (2009) with aprox 200 Million Dollar ~ but producing the game had only a cost of 50 Million(I dont have sources for that)

The PR champaign for Sims, GTA and similar games might have been not very far away from Modern Warefare 2 or similar games.

Assasins Creed got a few short movies for example just for the PR only.

So? What is telling us that. That the E3 is awesome! Cause you see so many of the trailers and PR aiming directly us! The Gamers. And honestly. Quite a lot of the trailers are today better then the games, compareble with movie trailers in many ways :roll:
*Give me everything baby! Who needs to watch the stinkin movie with mediocre actors no one cares an inch about when he gets such trailers ! Alien vs Predator
*Yeah baby! 200 Million dollar to get another battle with Megatron. Tell me about it ! Transforers 2 - Trailer ... also a plus is you dont have to torture your self for 2 ours of some really silly dialogues just to get the cutness overload from a character like bumblebee or watching Optimus kick some serious Decepticion asses!

Anyone ever got this feeling sometimes in Cinema when he was sitting in the comfortable chair watching a movie and thinking after it was over reaching the bottom of his pop corn bowl as well that the 20 min. of movie trailers shown before the actual movie started have been more awesome then the experience you payed for ? Well. Welcome to the hype ;)

Maybe I am just alone with that idea. But eventualy gamecompanies should take a step back. I mean the whole PR has reached dimensions that are in no relation to the production anymore. At some point youre not selling games anymore but just PR. And Hype. And Marketing. What is left from the product you want to make ? Where is the quality. longevity even of "casual" games. If already "casual" gamers complain about games like Call of Duty beeing good but "feeling to short" then something might be wrong here.

I havnt thought much about that recently but a German gaming magazine mentioned the money and budged some games get just for the PR. Some games geting a budged of 10 or 50 Millions just for the advertising. Can someone eventualy remember the times when 100 000 Dollar have been seen as incredibly much for a game ?

Not that making games or PR are cheap. If you want to reach more consumers something like advertising can be very expensive. But should it really go so far that it hurts the quality of the product ? ~ See Fallout 3 for example. Maybe the quality of the game would have been a different one if they spend more time and money with professional writters, animations and working on the AI then spending to much for the marketing ...
 
Edit: Ok just read your thread I thought it was somthing else

But yea games are so expensive it's asinine, I don't even feel like going into it. I pretty much fully agree with your post though and have been in that mindset for awhile now.
 
Fallout 3 would've been better if:

-Obsidian developed it
-It didn't use the shit Gambryo engine

Also, they have to advertise the fuck out of their games if they wanna sell. The current generation of gamers are casual retards who only buy games based on how good the commercial was.
 
Crni, I know we've ranted about this multiple times. There's nothing we can do really. We just need to deal with it, there will be a time when they will have to come up with some new ideas, or the people will be bored. It happens with everything. The cinema industry can't just keep up by adding better visuals, that's why they're toying around once again with the 3D movie craze.

You'll always see history repeats itself in various areas. Regarding gaming, yes, it'll become a casual mainstream business. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the indie scene is flourishing. That's something really nice to see lately, small companies have more room to innovate since they don't need a determined range of profits to keep on business. It's either try & succeed, or fail & try again.
 
yeah, but the trailers are most of the time kick as at least :mrgreen:

sadly just the games not so much :cry:
 
I get hyped up every E3 for the big press conferences, and then every year I end up disappointed.

Maybe I need to stop being into Nintendo :(
 
Microsoft's conference was fucking hilariously horrible. :lol:

Oh god, the whole thing was cringe-worthy. They showed Halo and Gears of War for like 3 minutes each, then the rest of their sequels to games.

And then the rest of the thing was all about <s>Wii Fit 2.0</s> Kinect, with Kinect Sports (an obvious Wii Sports rip-off) and a bunch of other rubbish. I dare say it's as bad as Sony 2006.
 
HEY KIDS, BUY OUR LIKELY FAULTY MOTION SENSING TECHNOLOGY!

Motion sensing is fucked for Microsoft.

Sony is likely to be similar, except with an extra shilling of 3D gaming.

God, 3D tech has got to be the most annoying shit ever.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
HEY KIDS, BUY OUR LIKELY FAULTY MOTION SENSING TECHNOLOGY!

Motion sensing is fucked for Microsoft.

Sony is likely to be similar, except with an extra shilling of 3D gaming.

God, 3D tech has got to be the most annoying shit ever.
As a guy who likes the Xbox I must say...

Microsoft what the fuck?! You couldn't get any exclusives save for Halo: Reach and Gears of War 3? Come on, those aren't even new. The only thing I liked was Metal Gear Rising and SKITTLES.

You know, what the fuck is wrong with a controller? What is fucking wrong with the controller? Nothing, that's what. Why in God's name do Microsoft and Sony feel the urge to copy a lousy motion control gimmick instead of making new games?

You get a D-, Microsoft.
 
so just curious have there been anything NEW to this E3 or has it been almost only about sequelz, pruebretzels to known/old games :roll:

Rage is something new. But not sure if they are again at the E3 this year.
 
I definitely liked MGS Rising. Cutting support beams to collapse a building on enemies and slicing and dicing everyone and everything every which way looked fun. I suspect some kind of Move integration.

Gears 3 looked surprisingly good. I'm not a big fan of the series but I liked what I saw quite a bit. Areas seem to open up for some decent battles and shit seemed to get pretty chaotic.

Halo Reach looked gorgeous to me. Maybe I don't know much about graphics but I just don't get how people think it looks average. I honestly thought it looked stunning but they should definitely have showed off some more cool gameplay sequences.

All the Kinect stuff was pathetic and the scripted dialog and acting were so cringeworthy that they're destined to become youtube classics. That little girl with Skittles got a bit disturbing though.
 
Did anyone see Ubisoft conference? What in the name of all that is holy was happening there?
 
Well that put's Panasonic 3D TV sales up, everyone is in da business.

Im probably going to pass on the Kinetic thing as I don't have any kid's that would play it.
 
you guys talking about the asian girl playing with that animated tiger cup ?

also Geaaaaars of woooor 3 !

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypm4Sq-YlhI[/youtube]
 
Holy shit, did you see Gears of War 3? It was so inventive! The way you can play with 4 people! Amazing! The enemies are really creative! I mean, who would've guessed that you shoot their obviously weak arms!

Fuck, at least Halo: Reach is TRYING to change things up, what with the space combat and all. Gears of War 3 is starting to like a rehash of the last two.
 
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