the plague of political correctness and other shit...

[Harahvaiti]

i think this p.c. and other nonsense like it, are the a plague to europe, and are destroying in some way, our civilization...
look for example what happened in UK, when they for a long time for chrismas don't even say merry christmas, but happy seasons and other bullshit, because they don't want to hurt feeling of moslems and others...
or look what happened few years ago in france, when some young french, performed a riot... destroyed property of other people, attacked policemen, like a bunch of barbarians... i call them terrorists...
what happened?
the media transformed a group of criminals and terrorists, to victims...

there are many other examples, just look around you...

now my question is, wtf is going on? how far this will go?

_my personal opinion is, that this will end in total negation of our european civilization, and transforming it to some degenerated barbarism...

//sorry for my bad english, but i think you guys know what im talking about...

 

[Sander]

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And you get this *now*? 'Political correctness' has been going down for years upon years now.

or look what happened few years ago in france, when some young french, performed a riot... destroyed property of other people, attacked policemen, like a bunch of barbarians... i call them terrorists...
what happened?
the media transformed a group of criminals and terrorists, to victims...

Bullshit. They highlighted the causes of this behaviour, this has jack shit to do with political correctness but with solid logical thinking. Just going 'OMG they're a bunch of terrorists' isn't going to solve anything, you know.

 

[Onisuzume]

I don't bloody care if I hurt someone's feelings.
Freedom of speech forever!

think this p.c. and other nonsense like it, are the a plague to europe, and are destroying in some way, our civilization...
look for example what happened in UK, when they for a long time for chrismas don't even say happy christmas, but happy seasons and other bullshit, because they don't want to hurt feeling of moslems and others...

Shouldn't that have been "merry christmas" in the first place? As for those muslims; to hell with them. What the bloody hell do they want in the uk anyways?

 

[Sander]

I don't bloody care if I hurt someone's feelings.
Freedom of speech forever!

think this p.c. and other nonsense like it, are the a plague to europe, and are destroying in some way, our civilization...
look for example what happened in UK, when they for a long time for chrismas don't even say happy christmas, but happy seasons and other bullshit, because they don't want to hurt feeling of moslems and others...

Shouldn't that have been "merry christmas" in the first place? As for those muslims; to hell with them. What the bloody hell do they want in the uk anyways?

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Err...what? Muslims have just as much right to live in the UK as anyone else, you know.

 

[Onisuzume]

I don't bloody care if I hurt someone's feelings.
Freedom of speech forever!

think this p.c. and other nonsense like it, are the a plague to europe, and are destroying in some way, our civilization...
look for example what happened in UK, when they for a long time for chrismas don't even say happy christmas, but happy seasons and other bullshit, because they don't want to hurt feeling of moslems and others...

Shouldn't that have been "merry christmas" in the first place? As for those muslims; to hell with them. What the bloody hell do they want in the uk anyways?

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Err...what? Muslims have just as much right to live in the UK as anyone else, you know.

Hm.. lets continue this in the "racism" thread.

 

[Sorrow]

Islam isn't a race.

 

[Onisuzume]

Islam isn't a race.

Most muslims are arabs, thus it is racism.
I've yet to see a muslim that isn't an arab.

I could continue with tons of political incorretnesses, but it'd just be a waste of effort, and a potencial ban.

 

[Sander]

Most muslims are arabs, thus it is racism.
I've yet to see a muslim that isn't an arab.

Where are you from, some small town around here? 'Cause there are tons of non-Arabic Muslims.
See also: Robin Van Persie.

I could continue with tons of political incorretnesses, but it'd just be a waste of effort, and a potencial ban.

Oh, you can continue freely. We don't ban for political incorrectness.

 

[10mmCurator]

Bah I hate PC as much as the next person because it wastes time. I get interupted too often because some candy assed trend setter/watcher always knows the new PC rules. I can't say "ball breaking work" without some idiotic blonde woman going all huffy and puffy at me. Women have balls too! They're called ovaries! Git with the program! Bah.

 

[radnan]

_my personal opinion is, that this will end in total negation of our european civilization, and transforming it to some degenerated barbarism...

Oh noes poor Yurp what will she do .. oh wait .. happened before!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian_invasions

Popualtion and human migration is one of the hardest problems to solve ...as for p.c. it is there to (blindly) enforce a type of respect which should come from understanding different races and cultures... it would mostly come naturally if there was unilateral knowledge and understanding of other cultures ... if we had that i think there wouldnt be a need for "political correctenss" then we'll really be free and able to hate individuals not groups

later edit: i do agree on one thing muslim states need education and muslim culture needs wordly education - big ups to turkey for knowing where to draw the line and promote an educated population and democracy - the right to vote is a privilege which becomes worthless without understanding.

 

[SuAside]

I could continue with tons of political incorretnesses, but it'd just be a waste of effort, and a potencial ban.

Oh, you can continue freely. We don't ban for political incorrectness.

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

 

[Wooz]

We don't ban.

We could contact your ISP with a transcription of the degrading, hateful rhetoric. I'm sure they'd love to have to explain to the police that their network is used for hate propaganda.

No worries.

 

[Sander]

Oh, you can continue freely. We don't ban for political incorrectness.

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

Now who's the admin around here?

The problem with these types of debates is that they often descend into trolling and mindless bitching, which is what leads to a ban. Not the political incorrectness itself.

 

[nospaces]

i've always thought world war three will be a race war

 

[Harahvaiti]

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And you get this *now*? 'Political correctness' has been going down for years upon years now.

Bullshit. They highlighted the causes of this behaviour, this has jack shit to do with political correctness but with solid logical thinking. Just going 'OMG they're a bunch of terrorists' isn't going to solve anything, you know.

you know, they made bad explanations and excuses (like they are discriminated, or are unemployed, or are uneducated or whatever) why they did what they did, but there are no e&e for such en behavior...

has a "european" french burned city quaters down, because he is unemployed, has a bad social status, no money etc...
nope, he didn't...
the point is if you say to someone he is a victim even if he isn't one, after a while he will think he is one, and justify his criminal behavior with it...

if someone performs a riot in a organized (democratic) state, then he is a terrorist nothing else...

and i totally agree with sarkozy when he called them "scum"...

Err...what? Muslims have just as much right to live in the UK as anyone else, you know.

yes my friend, but then they have to accept rules of the country they want to immigrate...

or do you think if go to saudi-arabia that u dont have to accept their rules?

 

[Cimmerian Nights]

i've always thought world war three will be a race war

You and Charles Manson both.

 

[Sander]

you know, they made bad explanations and excuses (like they are discriminated, or are unemployed, or are uneducated or whatever) why they did what they did, but there are no e&e for such en behavior...

has a "european" french burned city quaters down, because he is unemployed, has a bad social status, no money etc...
nope, he didn't...
the point is if you say to someone he is a victim even if he isn't one, after a while he will think he is one, and justify his criminal behavior with it...

if someone performs a riot in a organized (democratic) state, then he is a terrorist nothing else...

and i totally agree with sarkozy when he called them "scum"...

You're missing the point. Behaviour like that, just going 'they're just a bunch of dirty terrorists' isn't going to solve anything. Should they be held responsible for their crimes? Of course.
But this doesn't mean that you can't investigate the causes of their behaviour and remedy those, instead of letting the causes run on while excusing your ignoring those cases with the word 'terrorists'. Which is exactly what Sarkozy is doing, as are you.

yes my friend, but then they have to accept rules of the country they want to immigrate...

or do you think if go to saudi-arabia that u dont have to accept their rules?

Your point being, what, exactly? That muslims don't obey laws? Give me a break.

 

[Harahvaiti]

You're missing the point. Behaviour like that, just going 'they're just a bunch of dirty terrorists' isn't going to solve anything. Should they be held responsible for their crimes? Of course.
But this doesn't mean that you can't investigate the causes of their behaviour and remedy those, instead of letting the causes run on while excusing your ignoring those cases with the word 'terrorists'. Which is exactly what Sarkozy is doing, as are you.

Your point being, what, exactly? That muslims don't obey laws? Give me a break.

a terrorist is someone who spread terror, throu violence, it doesnt matter if its physical or political or some other kind of...

some, but the point was, that many of them dont want to accept the culture, traditions etc... of the host state...

 

[Sander]

a terrorist is someone who spread terror, throu violence, it doesnt matter if its physical or political or some other kind of...

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So? Did I deny that they were terrorists? No, I was talking about remedying the causes of this behaviour. Why are you ignoring this?

some, but the point was, that many of them dont want to accept the culture, traditions etc... of the host state...

Which is forbidden, how, exactly? Let them live, as long as they don't break any laws there's no problem.

 

[Harahvaiti]

So? Did I deny that they were terrorists? No, I was talking about remedying the causes of this behaviour. Why are you ignoring this?

and what are the causes? unemployment? bad social status? no education?

all are bad excuses, nothing more... if someone don't want to learn, get a diploma, find a job or go to the university...
why is it the fault of the society?

Which is forbidden, how, exactly? Let them live, as long as they don't break any laws there's no problem.

you have to decide if you want to accept or not accept the customs, traditions, civilization etc of the host state, and many don't want it...
they want to transform the host state into their own country, one example, some university in germany did a survey, and about 35% of the people that responded (moslems) sayed that the sharia is more important to them, then the german constitution...

and my question is, do you really think that some who thinks like that will obey the laws?