the plague of political correctness and other shit...

[Sander]

and what are the causes? unemployment? bad social status? no education?

all are bad excuses, nothing more... if someone don't want to learn, get a diploma, find a job or go to the university...
why is it the fault of the society?

Yet again, why are you ignoring my point?
Investigate the causes. Entire groups of people don't just start looting for no reason, and just saying 'eh, they'll pay for it' won't make those problems go away. It's this kind of ridiculous thinking, essentially the ignoring of any problems, that allowed these problems to fester in the first place.

Note, again, that I am not saying that people aren't responsible for their actions. I'm saying that there are causes to these actions, and that it's a good thing to remedy those causes. And yes, those causes *are* things like unemployment, being seen as outcasts, receiving poor education and hence even worse prospects in society. Contending that those are just excuses and not problems is ridiculous.

you have to decide if you want to accept or not accept the customs, traditions, civilization etc of the host state, and many don't want it...
they want to transform the host state into their own country, one example, some university in germany did a survey, and about 35% of the people that responded (moslems) sayed that the sharia is more important to them, then the german constitution...

and my question is, do you really think that some who thinks like that will obey the laws?

Yes, because they have so far, haven't they?
Yet again: as long as they don't break any laws, I don't see a problem. You can twist and turn all you want, but those 35% didn't actually break the law.

Also, wanna bet that all Christians will say that they think the Bible and its laws are more important than their country's constitution? 'Cause they do.

 

[SuAside]

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

Now who's the admin around here?

what, you saying you wouldnt ban his ass if he posted that he hated niggers after Carib posts a picture of himself in the picture thread?

 

[Sander]

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

Now who's the admin around here?

what, you saying you wouldnt ban his ass if he posted that he hated niggers after Carib posts a picture of himself in the picture thread?

Yes, because then it's just trolling. Not because it's politically incorrect.

 

[Harahvaiti]

Yet again, why are you ignoring my point?
Investigate the causes. Entire groups of people don't just start looting for no reason, and just saying 'eh, they'll pay for it' won't make those problems go away. It's this kind of ridiculous thinking, essentially the ignoring of any problems, that allowed these problems to fester in the first place.

Note, again, that I am not saying that people aren't responsible for their actions. I'm saying that there are causes to these actions, and that it's a good thing to remedy those causes. And yes, those causes *are* things like unemployment, being seen as outcasts, receiving poor education and hence even worse prospects in society. Contending that those are just excuses and not problems is ridiculous.

why "european" french haven't done the same?
i could say they have similar problems... bad education, no money, no jobs, outsiders in own society...etc bla bla

i know that you aren't saying that they unreasponsible for their behaviour...

Yes, because they have so far, haven't they?
Yet again: as long as they don't break any laws, I don't see a problem. You can twist and turn all you want, but those 35% didn't actually break the law.

Also, wanna bet that all Christians will say that they think the Bible and its laws are more important than their country's constitution? 'Cause they do.

do u really think such people are lawfull citizens?

 

[radnan]

why "european" french haven't done the same?
i could say they have similar problems... bad education, no money, no jobs, outsiders in own society...etc bla bla

i know that you aren't saying that they unreasponsible for their behaviour...

well sure there will always be bad education, not enough money and jobs etc. but srsly poor education is no match for what is going on in some places - and i'm not talking just about no school i'm talking about society, parents, media which lack a lot of social and civic values that we take for granted.

and maybe you shouldnt see the PC craze as something entirely bad ... such notions havent been something humanity thought of as normal even 100 years ago ..

 

[Sander]

why "european" french haven't done the same?
i could say they have similar problems... bad education, no money, no jobs, outsiders in own society...etc bla bla

Wrong, French people in the same situation *have* done the same thing. The fact is that allochtones are overrepresented in these demographics, which causes the overrepresentations of these allochtones in the looting.

do u really think such people are lawfull citizens?

They obey the law, don't they?

 

[alec]

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

Now who's the admin around here?

what, you saying you wouldnt ban his ass if he posted that he hated niggers after Carib posts a picture of himself in the picture thread?

Yes, because then it's just trolling. Not because it's politically incorrect.

Your logic is a poor man's logic, Sander. A little less drumming, a little more common sense,

please.

Cut your hair, change your name and OOOOOOOpen your eyes. You are being misguided, you are being misled. It's the pseudo-philospical viral infection (I told you, I told you). It's the new thing, the "bling-bling" in disguise. The triffids, man, the triffids: they were here before, they'll be here long after we seized to exist.

You'll remember me. You have remembered me before (I told you, I told you).

What the leaders dictate, the herd swallows: shit, poop, crap, vomitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.
Like your momma's nipple (big and brwon and hard like rubbbbbbbbbeR), the air that you breathe (wwwwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooossssssssssshhhh!), the gum you are chewing right now: you need it, it's good. They need it, they need us. Without them, you'd be nothing.

Like the cheap blonde slut in your class (giggle). Gagging on your wiener to 'get accepted' (giggle), to enjoy the protection, the warm and cosy blanket of laws and restrictions. The gang (poop). The peer pressure. The 240 Volts that is needed to fry that snail that crossed your razorblade (giggle).

But there is nor reason to act like this, nothing we understand (KOMMon Zense), so it must be something genetic, it probably grows inside of all of us when we are young, it blossoms, it is there to protect us, to keep us from harm. Therefore, we must destroy it. Shut it down.

Words, words, words. Try to say cheese while I massage your gums with my knuckles. Try to live in the real world instead of a shell: you'll be bored before you even begin.

Political correctness is proof that the theory of evolution makes no sense on a humanoid level (har-two-thee-do). The sheep become more powerful than the wolves - for as long as they can maintain order, that is. The costumes, the rubber/the rubber, the costumes.

Avoid the nifty sanctions. Avoid the grip of 186 pounds of governmental waste in your neck. Zero tolerance. You're quicker to mistake a handgranate for a pretzel than a woman for a centaur.

Submit. Registrate. Smile.

"Say cheese".

Then have some with a glass of wine.

"Say NIGGA".

 

[Sander]

Political correctness is proof that the theory of evolution makes no sense on a humanoid level (har-two-thee-do). The sheep become more powerful than the wolves - for as long as they can maintain order, that is. The costumes, the rubber/the rubber, the costumes.

How Nietszchian.

You should lay off the drugs, duder.

 

[Muff]

...

Err...what? Muslims have just as much right to live in the UK as anyone else, you know.

yes my friend, but then they have to accept rules of the country they want to immigrate...

I second this opinion.

 

[Onisuzume]

kinda depends on which threads you're posting that in tbh.

Now who's the admin around here?

what, you saying you wouldnt ban his ass if he posted that he hated niggers after Carib posts a picture of himself in the picture thread?

Hey, I got nothing against nigrā.

Wrong, French people in the same situation *have* done the same thing. The fact is that allochtones are overrepresented in these demographics, which causes the overrepresentations of these allochtones in the looting.

A glance out of the window agrees with the demographics.
Personally; I wouldn't even keep my bike out in the front yard even if it was locked and chained to the house. Just 'cuz I'm certain that one of them will be driving a new bike pretty darn soon.

I can also prove that over 75% of the junk in my neighborhood comes from them. And not a nigger in sight. (I bet they're all stuck up in the good 'hoods)

 

[nospaces]

i've always thought world war three will be a race war

You and Charles Manson both.

im in good company

http://bendermoreyouknow.ytmnd.com/

 

[Maccaweeny]

Being a white male at a left-wing university in Australia, i've learnt to constantly feel guilty about my heritage (despite both parents being Irish)

In fact, i'm now so P.C that whenever i see an aboriginal i say sorry, like all the time, even if they're just asking me for money. Furthermore, my avatar is designed to bring about acceptance of homosexuality.

 

[remake]

Political correctness is just a cheap way of apologizing for the past 300 years of pain and agony -which is still ongoing- caused in the less materialistic parts of the world by the "stronger" capitalist nations.

I have noticed somebody mention the "European civilization". That's just a bullshit term which should be avoided for the sake of logical reasoning.

There is no such thing as European civilization. There is only one civilization. All cultures have contributed to this through out history, it's not like European scholars woke up one day and decided to start the renaissance/the enlightenment because they noticed that they hadn't done shit for the past one thousand years...

Coming back to the immigrants in Western-Europe. Most of the people that move here are the people who have no future prospects in their own countries because of social, financial, political reasons. Their countries were not given the chance to develop freely as the industrial nations have. This obstacle on their way to prosperity does not seem to be that easy to get rid of as long as the governments of industrialised nations and global organisations that are supposed to create some sort of a fair trade environment (such as the IMF and the WTO) function as a ravaging tool in the hands of multi-national corporations.

So the day you quit obnoxious mass-consumption and realise the evil you've been doing to us and the earth, we will all return to our own countries and live happily ever after or you could always wait for more countries to adapt a stance similar to Venezuela, Cuba or Iran towards the imbalance that you've created in this world.

 

[Zaij]

Ha! I second that Maccaweeny. I go to La Trobe and it seems I can't walk 5 metres without feeling guilty for being white/male/first-world-citizen/hetero/agnostic

 

[Harahvaiti]

...

do you ever had a history book in your hands?

there is something called "european civilization" and your negation of this fact is the proof that you are not a part of it, and you don't know what is it... so stop wasting your time, talking about something you don't have a fucking clue...

you know the fact that the turks have occupied complete eastern europe...
they were one of the greatest powers until 1878. in europe, asia and africa...
so why they don't progressed? like europe has...
do you know the answer?
or why don't the arabs progress even if they sit on oil?
they are like in the medieval time... so why are they so?
why is the illiterated rate in those countries still immense high?

stop making excuses for the incompetence of your people, look whats going on in those countries and compare it to europe...


this is my favourite part...

So the day you guit obnoxious mass-consumption and realise the evil you've been doing to us and the earth, we will all return to our own countries and live happily ever after or you could always wait for more countries to adapt a stance similar to Venezuela, Cuba or Iran towards the imbalance that you've created in this world.

rofl rofl
what a shitload of idiocy...

 

[Jebus]

do you ever had a history book in your hands?

*raises hand*

I have.

you know the fact that the turks have occupied complete eastern europe...

Yeah, them Ottomans sure kept those Czechs and Estonians under an iron thumb.

they were one of the greatest powers until 1878. in europe, asia and africa...
so why they don't progressed? like europe has...
do you know the answer?

Do you?

or why don't the arabs progress even if they sit on oil?
they are like in the medieval time... so why are they so?

Please tell us, oh educated one, why are they so?

why is the illiterated rate in those countries still immense high?

*snickers*

 

[remake]

...

do you ever had a history book in your hands?

there is something called "european civilization" and your negation of this fact is the proof that you are not a part of it, and you don't know what is it... so stop wasting your time, talking about something you don't have a fucking clue...

you know the fact that the turks have occupied complete eastern europe...
they were one of the greatest powers until 1878. in europe, asia and africa...
so why they don't progressed? like europe has...
do you know the answer?
or why don't the arabs progress even if they sit on oil?
they are like in the medieval time... so why are they so?
why is the illiterated rate in those countries still immense high?

stop making excuses for the incompetence of your people, look whats going on in those countries and compare it to europe...


this is my favourite part...

So the day you guit obnoxious mass-consumption and realise the evil you've been doing to us and the earth, we will all return to our own countries and live happily ever after or you could always wait for more countries to adapt a stance similar to Venezuela, Cuba or Iran towards the imbalance that you've created in this world.

rofl rofl
what a shitload of idiocy...

I love it when some of you get all upset and express your feelings as articulate as you can with phrases such as "rofl rofl
what a shitload of idiocy...".

Asking a bunch of pseudo-rhetorical questions unfortunately does not equal proper argumentation.

For example the modern western thought is heavily influenced by Islamic philosophy -starting from Farabi and ending with Ibn Rushd (that's Averroes to you)- as much as Greek philosophy, which you also had the chance to study and understand thanks to the Arabic translations and commentaries. It is a proven fact that Thomas Aqiunas copied whole pages from the works of the afore mentioned philosophers. (You would have known about Averroes if you were actually interested in western culture and took the effort to read Dante's Divine Comedy).

I could go on and on but what's the point? I'm not an anti-western fascist or anything. I'm also not saying that nothing good has ever come out of Europe (I'm not mentioning America since they haven't been around for long). Because that wouldn't be true. What I want is for you to see what I'm seeing and stop acting like chauvinist assholes for no reason.

Smooches to you under my Turkish mustachio.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

you know the fact that the turks have occupied complete eastern europe...
they were one of the greatest powers until 1878. in europe, asia and africa...
so why they don't progressed? like europe has...
do you know the answer?
or why don't the arabs progress even if they sit on oil?
they are like in the medieval time... so why are they so?
why is the illiterated rate in those countries still immense high?

Well my friend what you ask is fair and true, although not exactly correct, (ottomans hardly occupied eastern europe, we merely paid tribute and fought them from time to time, until the russians punded them in the crimeans, and they vanished as a threat to europe) I salute your interest to open such a thread and I cannot but feel sorry for you for being ganged up on by these first class citizen white males (some posters own words). Don't feel sorry for anything, you aren't more than simple human beings with all their flaws to me. You just drive more expensive cars.


Please people, don't jump at the guy just to contradict him, be a little supportive to the person that questions the system.

Asking a bunch of pseudo-rhetorical questions unfortunately does not equal proper argumentation.

For example the modern western thought is heavily influenced by Islamic philosophy -starting from Farabi and ending with Ibn Rushd (that's Averroes to you)- as much as Greek philosophy, which you also had the chance to study and understand thanks to the Arabic translations and commentaries. It is a proven fact that Thomas Aqiunas copied whole pages from the works of the afore mentioned philosophers. (You would have known about Averroes if you were actually interested in western culture and took the effort to read Dante's Divine Comedy).

You're educated alright, but please do not parade your own chosen education upon others who haven't studied ancient greece or western culture. Simply, my friend, I fear you are hardly understood when using such a complex theory when a simple answer would suffice.

I could go on and on but what's the point? I'm not an anti-western fascist or anything. I'm also not saying that nothing good has ever come out of Europe (I'm not mentioning America since they haven't been around for long). Because that wouldn't be true. What I want is for you to see what I'm seeing and stop acting like chauvinist assholes for no reason.

If we would all try to reason how we act and talk, look and feel, then the world would have no need for such idiot leaders, as it probably deserves.

 

[Sander]

do you ever had a history book in your hands?

there is something called "european civilization" and your negation of this fact is the proof that you are not a part of it, and you don't know what is it... so stop wasting your time, talking about something you don't have a fucking clue...

Bullshit. There is no such thing as a uniform European Civilisation, nor is Europe actually well-defined. In any way. The boundaries of Europe are largely dependant on cultural trends, with even Poland and Eastern Germany being excluded from the common perception of Europe, while at other times Europe extended as far as the entirety of Russia.

How about *you* go read a history book? I suggest Norman Davies' 'Europe: A History' to get you started (and a nod to Brother None for pointing out the book to me originally).

you know the fact that the turks have occupied complete eastern europe...
they were one of the greatest powers until 1878. in europe, asia and africa...
so why they don't progressed? like europe has...
do you know the answer?
or why don't the arabs progress even if they sit on oil?
they are like in the medieval time... so why are they so?
why is the illiterated rate in those countries still immense high?

stop making excuses for the incompetence of your people, look whats going on in those countries and compare it to europe...

..
Are you fucking serious? The Arabian world had been the leader of the world on pretty much every level, including every form of science, for literally centuries. To suggest that, based on the recent decline of Arabian nations, Arabs are somehow a lesser people is ridiculous, especially if you consider the consequences of two World Wars and relative isolation from the rest of the world. The fact that they didn't join in with the Colonial Wars (except for, again, Turkey) is also a reason.

See also: The Marshall Plan, which got Western Europe back on its feet after an economically desastrous war for pretty much every country involved. The Eastern European countries never got any of it, because they were part of the Eastern Bloc. The consequences of that are still visible. The same goes for Arabian nations which suffered heavily from World War 2, but did not receive anywhere near as much help from the USA. Turkey did receive help, but only marginally so and on a much smaller scale than the rest of non-Soviet Europe. There are a bazillion different reasons why most Arabian nations are 'less civilised' than European nations, none of them have anything to do with them as a 'race'.

Also note that Turkey is ahead of a shitload of 'European' nations, such as most of Eastern Europe.

 

[Harahvaiti]

I love it when some of you get all upset and express your feelings as articulate as you can with phrases such as "rofl rofl
what a shitload of idiocy...".

Asking a bunch of pseudo-rhetorical questions unfortunately does not equal proper argumentation.

im not upset, your points are weak...
that questions can be easy answered if you have the courage...

For example the modern western thought is heavily influenced by Islamic philosophy -starting from Farabi and ending with Ibn Rushd (that's Averroes to you)- as much as Greek philosophy, which you also had the chance to study and understand thanks to the Arabic translations and commentaries. It is a proven fact that Thomas Aqiunas copied whole pages from the works of the afore mentioned philosophers. (You would have known about Averroes if you were actually interested in western culture and took the effort to read Dante's Divine Comedy).

if i remember correctly the roman and greek culture is called the fundament of europe, so if you say we took something from arabs even if it was greek, your argumenation is pretty weak...

because you know some more facts then the average men, answer me few questions...

when raised the classical islamic civilization?
what are the foundaments?
why haven't it made any progress?
why has it perished?

I could go on and on but what's the point? I'm not an anti-western fascist or anything. I'm also not saying that nothing good has ever come out of Europe (I'm not mentioning America since they haven't been around for long). Because that wouldn't be true. What I want is for you to see what I'm seeing and stop acting like chauvinist assholes for no reason.

yes you are full of hate "my friend", you cant hide such feelings, its obvious to people that are interested in such things...

and don't start with this chauvinist bullshit, im a european integral-nationalist and im proud to be one...