The Power Armors

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by TinyTeeth, Sep 4, 2005.

  1. Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude

    Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Jul 9, 2004
    Meh, I like how they balanced heavy armor in tactics. When wearing metal armor, enviro-armor, or power armor, you lost % in certain skills like sneak, doctor, first aid. Basically anything you needed to be dextrous and precice with; you lost points in. I dont like how in Fo1&2 you can sneak around and perform eye surgery with a suit of power armor on. I mean come on, imagine trying to sow up a wound with gigantic steel gloves on...
     
  2. Kahgan

    Kahgan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 25, 2003
    Now that woldn't be very logical now would it?
    The PA is a one-man-tank, mind you. It has a small fusion reactor that makes it possible for you to move in it. The combat armour is more of a heavy army/police uniform, it's not high-tech and it wouldn't be possible, even with fallout's Sience! theme to craft it into something as good as a power armour, plus the world got nuked to hell.
     
  3. ogreb

    ogreb First time out of the vault

    75
    Jul 30, 2005
    Best looking PA?

    Out of the 3 games...which PA is the coolest looking?

    I think the PA from the first game is the most realistic looking...with the hoses and knobs etc.

    I guess it's hard to judge by just game graphics, but I have a collection of the 3 games and it shows 3 different PAs.

    F2 PA makes everyone look like evil birds and Tactics is just too futuristic looking...

    F1 PA looks like it came from the 50s....and it just seems to fit.
     
  4. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
    Admin

    May 27, 2004
    big fat *duh*

    P51b is the only fitting PA. FO is 50's retro future.

    the armor is impractical, it's gritty, it's badly finished, but it's everything a FO PA should be
     
  5. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Merged with an earlier thread on Power Armours.
     
  6. Milo

    Milo Still Mildly Glowing

    268
    Jan 5, 2006
    Everyone here is going off about how combat armor looked better than either . Am I the only one who peed a little when I saw the Advanded Power Armor. The first Power Armor was a little silly looking with the hose coming out the back and all, but I really liked the Advanded Power Armor.
     
  7. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    i think we can all agree that advanced powerarmor is anything but 50's future retro...
     
  8. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Maybe it's 50's retrofuture a hundred years into the future?
     
  9. PhredBean

    PhredBean Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    464
    Jul 14, 2004
    I liked the hoses, it's a different approach to the usual placement near the mouth and makes some good sence as they would be out of the way of your weapons stock (hanging hoses seem like a pain in the ass) and wouldn't snag on ground brush when you have to hit the dirt.

    I liked the FO1 armor because it fit the setting, the FO2 armor was halfway out there, but I liked it anyway. The FOT armor looked way too damn shiney, stylized, and modern for the Fallout world. It looks like something you'd see on the cover of a 90s sci-fi book or even a manga, not a 50s movie.
     
  10. Kahgan

    Kahgan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 25, 2003
    But then again, a walking "tank" would very rarely have to hit the dirt. A lot of people are forgetting that this thing is suposed to make you close to imune to normal weapons. And when you are first fighting super mutants and the Master, hitting the dirt would have little effect, especially when you are probably using a huge gun..(gatling laser, turbo plasma rifle, flamer)

    I seem to remember reading somewhere (the bible maybe?) that the earlier models of power armour had weapons mounted on it and were used to destroy whole towns from a distance...?
     
  11. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    The F2 APA helmet seens to be based on old gas masks, so I think that it still fits the retrofuturistic theme.
     
  12. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    Ehm, it resembles a gas mask as much as the Fallout 1 power armor resembles a gas mask.
    It's more the fact that the Fallout 2 armor is much more smooth and streamlined, it almost looks aerodynamic, which was completely unheard of in the fifties.
     
  13. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    http://www.plan59.com/av/av194.htm

    http://www.plan59.com/av/av273.htm
    http://www.plan59.com/av/av145.htm
    http://www.plan59.com/av/av265.htm
    I watched a lot of futuristic pictures from 40s and 50s and I saw that there was a strong tendency to draw streamlined and aerodynamic vehicles and buildings.
    I see no reason why APA couldn't be aerodynamic.
     
  14. corey

    corey First time out of the vault

    98
    Jul 6, 2006
    i've never seen the tactics PA but i almost pissed myself in fallout 2 when i ran into the farmer family and the enclave members.i'll post my thoughts on the tactics version wheni get it in about 4 hours(i ordered it online).i thought the 1st power armor was a little goofy looking considering they were the most advanced at the time and they couldn't polish their armor.
     
  15. Kahgan

    Kahgan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 25, 2003
    Why would you use time and effort polishing an armour in a post nuke wasteland? Besides, they did take care of them to some degree.
    Remember the power armour you could put together in the BOS bunker in Fallout1? The glass in front of the eyes was broken so the armourer-kind of guy had welded on a new glass that was not good enough for inspection, wich was the reason you could have it if you put it together yourself. This implies that the armours had to look somewhat clean but not diretly polished.
     
  16. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Wha- wha- what?

    *re-reads the entire dialog section of Fallout 1... again.*
     
  17. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Guys, remember that the BOS Paladins would have to look imposing to maintain a standard of fear and respect among the local populace. So they did polish the armours. Maybe even removed camouflage for that purpose, too(there was a thread on that here somewhere)

    Also, they were of military origin, and that involves a lot of armour-polishing and bed-making.

    The Vault Dweller's PA, now that's a different story...
     
  18. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    And here's what a gas mask *really* looks like.
    Hence the Fallout 1 armor actually looks more like a real gas mask from that era.

    Vehicles aren't the same as huge, man-protecting armors. The bulkiness of the original Power Armor felt much more like an intimidating and huge armour, fitting of the vision in the fifties.
    Take, for instance, Starship Troopers (the excellent book, not the movie). You have human infantry in large, powered suits of armour that protect the men within and amplify their strength, the only real difference with the Fallout power armor is that it can fly.
    That armor was described as bulky, large and not the slick armor that is the Fallout 2 armor.
    If you look at the first attempt at an exoskeleton ( http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20010630/a695_1717.JPG ), you see nothing but clumsy bulk as well.
     
  19. PsychoSniper

    PsychoSniper So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Jun 27, 2003
    But isnt Power armor resistent to laser weapons BECAUSE its polished, hence it reflects and diffuses the laser beam ?

    Actualy, it IS, and now we thank the wonders of the Holodisk archive that NMA has.



    And as far as the APA issue..............


    Notice both have air hoses ? They just come out of the back of the APA. Personaly, I think the APA looks more 60's to me, which could simply mean that the FO world was changing styles when the bombs hit.













    At least they didnt have shit like this in FO or FO2

     
  20. Silencer

    Silencer Night Watchman Staff Member Admin

    Nov 7, 2003
    Not neccesarily, as keep in mind the Enclave power armours could have been constructed as late as 160 years after the War. Wow. That's quite a bit of time to make upgrades and change styling.