The Power Armors

Meh, I like how they balanced heavy armor in tactics. When wearing metal armor, enviro-armor, or power armor, you lost % in certain skills like sneak, doctor, first aid. Basically anything you needed to be dextrous and precice with; you lost points in. I dont like how in Fo1&2 you can sneak around and perform eye surgery with a suit of power armor on. I mean come on, imagine trying to sow up a wound with gigantic steel gloves on...
 
Joachim said:
specifically the combat armor to make it as strong as PA or make it have some advantages PA didn't. which is what I meant by the energy, fire resistance
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Now that woldn't be very logical now would it?
The PA is a one-man-tank, mind you. It has a small fusion reactor that makes it possible for you to move in it. The combat armour is more of a heavy army/police uniform, it's not high-tech and it wouldn't be possible, even with fallout's Sience! theme to craft it into something as good as a power armour, plus the world got nuked to hell.
 
Best looking PA?

Out of the 3 games...which PA is the coolest looking?

I think the PA from the first game is the most realistic looking...with the hoses and knobs etc.

I guess it's hard to judge by just game graphics, but I have a collection of the 3 games and it shows 3 different PAs.

F2 PA makes everyone look like evil birds and Tactics is just too futuristic looking...

F1 PA looks like it came from the 50s....and it just seems to fit.
 
big fat *duh*

P51b is the only fitting PA. FO is 50's retro future.

the armor is impractical, it's gritty, it's badly finished, but it's everything a FO PA should be
 
Everyone here is going off about how combat armor looked better than either . Am I the only one who peed a little when I saw the Advanded Power Armor. The first Power Armor was a little silly looking with the hose coming out the back and all, but I really liked the Advanded Power Armor.
 
i think we can all agree that advanced powerarmor is anything but 50's future retro...
 
Milo said:
Everyone here is going off about how combat armor looked better than either . Am I the only one who peed a little when I saw the Advanded Power Armor. The first Power Armor was a little silly looking with the hose coming out the back and all, but I really liked the Advanded Power Armor.
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I liked the hoses, it's a different approach to the usual placement near the mouth and makes some good sence as they would be out of the way of your weapons stock (hanging hoses seem like a pain in the ass) and wouldn't snag on ground brush when you have to hit the dirt.

I liked the FO1 armor because it fit the setting, the FO2 armor was halfway out there, but I liked it anyway. The FOT armor looked way too damn shiney, stylized, and modern for the Fallout world. It looks like something you'd see on the cover of a 90s sci-fi book or even a manga, not a 50s movie.
 
PhredBean said:
I liked the hoses, it's a different approach to the usual placement near the mouth and makes some good sence as they would be out of the way of your weapons stock (hanging hoses seem like a pain in the ass) and wouldn't snag on ground brush when you have to hit the dirt.
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But then again, a walking "tank" would very rarely have to hit the dirt. A lot of people are forgetting that this thing is suposed to make you close to imune to normal weapons. And when you are first fighting super mutants and the Master, hitting the dirt would have little effect, especially when you are probably using a huge gun..(gatling laser, turbo plasma rifle, flamer)

I seem to remember reading somewhere (the bible maybe?) that the earlier models of power armour had weapons mounted on it and were used to destroy whole towns from a distance...?
 
The F2 APA helmet seens to be based on old gas masks, so I think that it still fits the retrofuturistic theme.
 
Sorrow said:
The F2 APA helmet seens to be based on old gas masks, so I think that it still fits the retrofuturistic theme.
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Ehm, it resembles a gas mask as much as the Fallout 1 power armor resembles a gas mask.
It's more the fact that the Fallout 2 armor is much more smooth and streamlined, it almost looks aerodynamic, which was completely unheard of in the fifties.
 
Sander said:
Ehm, it resembles a gas mask as much as the Fallout 1 power armor resembles a gas mask.
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http://www.plan59.com/av/av194.htm

Sander said:
It's more the fact that the Fallout 2 armor is much more smooth and streamlined, it almost looks aerodynamic, which was completely unheard of in the fifties.
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http://www.plan59.com/av/av273.htm
http://www.plan59.com/av/av145.htm
http://www.plan59.com/av/av265.htm
I watched a lot of futuristic pictures from 40s and 50s and I saw that there was a strong tendency to draw streamlined and aerodynamic vehicles and buildings.
I see no reason why APA couldn't be aerodynamic.
 
i've never seen the tactics PA but i almost pissed myself in fallout 2 when i ran into the farmer family and the enclave members.i'll post my thoughts on the tactics version wheni get it in about 4 hours(i ordered it online).i thought the 1st power armor was a little goofy looking considering they were the most advanced at the time and they couldn't polish their armor.
 
Why would you use time and effort polishing an armour in a post nuke wasteland? Besides, they did take care of them to some degree.
Remember the power armour you could put together in the BOS bunker in Fallout1? The glass in front of the eyes was broken so the armourer-kind of guy had welded on a new glass that was not good enough for inspection, wich was the reason you could have it if you put it together yourself. This implies that the armours had to look somewhat clean but not diretly polished.
 
Guys, remember that the BOS Paladins would have to look imposing to maintain a standard of fear and respect among the local populace. So they did polish the armours. Maybe even removed camouflage for that purpose, too(there was a thread on that here somewhere)

Also, they were of military origin, and that involves a lot of armour-polishing and bed-making.

The Vault Dweller's PA, now that's a different story...
 
Sorrow said:
http://www.plan59.com/av/av194.htm
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And here's what a gas mask *really* looks like.
Hence the Fallout 1 armor actually looks more like a real gas mask from that era.

Sander said:
http://www.plan59.com/av/av273.htm
http://www.plan59.com/av/av145.htm
http://www.plan59.com/av/av265.htm
I watched a lot of futuristic pictures from 40s and 50s and I saw that there was a strong tendency to draw streamlined and aerodynamic vehicles and buildings.
I see no reason why APA couldn't be aerodynamic.
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Vehicles aren't the same as huge, man-protecting armors. The bulkiness of the original Power Armor felt much more like an intimidating and huge armour, fitting of the vision in the fifties.
Take, for instance, Starship Troopers (the excellent book, not the movie). You have human infantry in large, powered suits of armour that protect the men within and amplify their strength, the only real difference with the Fallout power armor is that it can fly.
That armor was described as bulky, large and not the slick armor that is the Fallout 2 armor.
If you look at the first attempt at an exoskeleton ( http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20010630/a695_1717.JPG ), you see nothing but clumsy bulk as well.
 
But isnt Power armor resistent to laser weapons BECAUSE its polished, hence it reflects and diffuses the laser beam ?

Actualy, it IS, and now we thank the wonders of the Holodisk archive that NMA has.


The T-51b Powered Infantry Armor is designed with the latest passive defense features for both civilian and military disturbances. The back-mounted TX-28 MicroFusion Pack generates 60,000 Watts to power the HiFlo hydraulic systems built into the frame of the suit. Made of the latest poly-laminate composite, the T-51b shell is lightweight and capable of absorbing over 2500 Joules of kinetic impact. The 10 micron silver ablative coating can reflect laser and radiation emissions without damage to the composite subsurface.
**END-DISK**
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And as far as the APA issue..............


Notice both have air hoses ? They just come out of the back of the APA. Personaly, I think the APA looks more 60's to me, which could simply mean that the FO world was changing styles when the bombs hit.




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At least they didnt have shit like this in FO or FO2

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PsychoSniper said:
Personaly, I think the APA looks more 60's to me, which could simply mean that the FO world was changing styles when the bombs hit.
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Not neccesarily, as keep in mind the Enclave power armours could have been constructed as late as 160 years after the War. Wow. That's quite a bit of time to make upgrades and change styling.
 
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