The Road the movie.

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Levio91, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Levio91

    Levio91 First time out of the vault

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    Nov 20, 2008
  2. LogisticEarth

    LogisticEarth First time out of the vault

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    Nov 14, 2008
    Do you mean the movie was influenced by the games? Or the games were influenced by the movie/book? If the later, you're way off, as McCarthy's novel wasn't published untill 2006.

    I've heard it's really good though. I need to read the book before I see the film.
     
  3. sickfuck_diablo

    sickfuck_diablo It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 11, 2005
    The book was great, but definitely one of the most depressing things I've ever read
     
  4. SuAside

    SuAside Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    May 27, 2004
    euhm.

    why? it has a hollywood happy ending for fucks sake.

    didn't find it depressing at all.
     
  5. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    The Road inspired Fallout 3? Sounds like someone one is spoon feeding bullshit to sell their game and suggest artistic merit behind their rather shoddy work.

    Totally didn't influence either Fallout 1 or Fallout 2.

    Did Fallout inspire the Road? I doubt McCarthy is Fallout fan or even played the game.

    I know those assholes at Bethesda are saying that the Road is an influence to the game, but those assholes would sell that bullshit to anyone willing to believe it. SO far I have seen no references to the Road in Fallout 3, except that both are generally post-apocalyptic.

    Suaside- in a sense its less a holiday ending than a gnostic theme that McCarthy regularly references. The reference can be seen in No Country for Old Men and in Blood Meridian, and I think perhaps even in the Borderlands trilogy. I agree that it looks like a Hollywood ending (at least in the book) but the book's reference is to a more spiritual ideal. Blood Meridian is perhaps a better source for what he's really getting at.
     
  6. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    I'll tell you what I think influenced The Road that nobody ever talks about.

    Father and young son, travelling down the highway in a violent, hellish wasteland. Struggling against the dark side of human nature. Death everywhere.
    In a fucking shopping cart?

    Lone Wolf and Cub much?



    What's his next book going to be about, a blind masseuse with a cane sword?
    Hack.
     
  7. Mutoes

    Mutoes Mildly Dipped

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    Feb 5, 2008
    Theres Lone wolf and cub movies? I loved the manga.
    Good films?
     
  8. Stag

    Stag Guest

    I saw the english dub, Shogun Executioner, and I couldn't take it for more than ten minutes. The voice over is just...it's too fucking much, it's fucking horrendous.
     
  9. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    That one is a cheap mash-up of the movies, which there are 6 of. They are pretty good, albeit low budget. But lifted right from the books.
    I'd stay away from any Japanese movie that's dubbed though, only trash gets dubbed. You don't see Mifune getting dubbed over do you? Defeats the purpose
     
  10. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    The new formula is taking Cormac McCarthy novels and producing respective film adaptions, it's already getting old.
     
  11. sickfuck_diablo

    sickfuck_diablo It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 11, 2005
    I wasn't thinking about the ending as much as the overall vision of society. And the fact the kid is born into that kind of life, well depressing might be too strong a word but I had a memorable emotional response to it.
     
  12. LogisticEarth

    LogisticEarth First time out of the vault

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    Nov 14, 2008
    Huh? The only other recent movie was No Country for Old Men. I don't know if that classifies as a "formula" yet. The Road had some massively positive critical reaction when it first was published and they were quickly talking about a movie, even before No Country was released.
     
  13. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008

    All The Pretty Horses
    had been adapted, No Country For Old Men as you mentioned, Blood Meridian is being adapted, and the film mentioned in this title is being made.
    That's enough for me, I wouldn't be surprised if they began taking his older works and producing films out of those.
     
  14. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Yeah, the book, how many Pulitzer Prize Winners have made good Hollywood movies?

    Does anyone possibly think they can cram the essence of a Pulitzer Prize winner into a 90minute mainstream movie? Why bother?
    A 90 minute Hollywood movie is quite simply the wrong medium for presenting things like that. The only PP winners that got their due recently were Killer Angels (aka Gettysburg) and Lonesome Dove - but they're like 8 hours long. Return on investment not high enough to bother, dumb it down, whore it out, cash it in.
     
  15. iridium_ionizer

    iridium_ionizer Mildly Dipped

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    I found it bleak (as would be expected given the circumstances), but there also some small happy moments that were tucked into the story.

    I don't think Bethesda had The Road influence Fallout 3 in any good way, but there are several changes to the Fallout universe that they made to make it more like The Road: Cannibalistic supermutants, shopping carts, abundance of stuff to loot (even though the bombs dropped 200 years prior), places full of dead people, and the art style changing from more stylistic husks of buildings to more realistic burned houses, telephone poles, etc.
     
  16. M-26-7

    M-26-7 Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jul 20, 2008
    Well Godfather 1 and 2 were both adaptions of icredible books. Though they are arguably not as good as the book, they're still considered among the best movies.
     
  17. Ashmo

    Ashmo Half-way Through My Half-life
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    Jul 2, 2004
    The Road?

    I never bothered to finish that tripe. The writing style wasn't exactly helpful -- ignoring literary conventions (italics for thought, quotations for speech, etc) isn't artistic, it's just confusing.

    And the story wasn't exactly the best thing since sliced bread either.

    I guess I just don't "do" intellectual masterpieces.
     
  18. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Actually, The Godfather 1 and 2 movies both come from the same single book. So it took, what, 2 movies and a total of 6 hours to do the book justice. Imagine it as a 90 minute feechuur film, blech. Besides, as good as the Godfather is, it ain't Pulitzer material. It wasn't on Oprah's book list neither.
     
  19. Eyenixon

    Eyenixon Vault Senior Citizen

    Apr 11, 2008
    The Godfather is definitely not an incredible book, or at the least it cannot be considered a serious entrant into the realm of literary fiction, the book is excessive in its subject matter to the point of absurdity (I don't want to hear about Sonny's over sized schlong anymore) and it's very dryly written, I'd go so far as to say that the only reason the book is acknowledged at all is because the film itself exists.

    One of those truly rare cases where the film is far improved over its original form, The Godfather as a book is a trite crime drama read at the airport when there's nothing better to read.

    While normally I wouldn't agree (just take a look at the butt-head in my avatar), I certainly believe you have a point with The Road, I by no means consider it a "bad book", but I was not impressed on the same level as many others who have provided profuse examples of appreciative behavior in regards to the book.
    My initial feelings of annoyance were inspired by McCarthy's excessive usage of the word "gray". It was severely grating, especially since he made no figurative or eloquent use of the repetition of the word, rather he decided to repeat it until it drove home the point that everything is somewhat, to a certain degree, with slight inference, in fact, gray.

    He does not accomplish anything that could be called interesting with his prose, he just seemed to be bored with conventional writing, while there's nothing wrong with that (who doesn't get tired of the typical syntax and rules), he could've done it in a far more pleasing manner. Since there is, as you mentioned, no real artistic merit to his prose in The Road, it just serves to be irksome and at worst, even pretentious.

    I was not confused by his writing style however, merely annoyed, the plot and characters were interesting enough to keep me engaged.
     
  20. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    Dude- that's so bizarre. What an image! I wonder if anyone else has pointed this comparison.

    As for the book as good fiction- honestly, I think McCarthy's best is Blood Meridian, which was under appreciated when it was first done. I think he got accolades for the Road largely because the critics totally missed the boat on Blood Meridian.

    Though I got to say, No Country for Old Men was pretty good.