thinking of learning new language

[DJ Slamák]

Ratty, is'nt Serbo-Croation agglutinative?

I'm not Ratty, but I'll barge in anyway - Slavic languages are synthetic with a light sprinkle of agglutination. If you want a true agglutination bonanza, you must aim a bit further to the north - i.e. Hungary.

Megatron, you could try a Slavic language. Then again, they don't have that many speakers, so they probably wouldn't be all that interesting apart from Russian maybe?

 

[Ratty Sr.]

Ratty, I am glad you're back.

So am I.

Ratty, is'nt Serbo-Croation agglutinative?

Calling my language "Serbo-Croatian" is a sure way to get a kick in the balls.

Seriously, Serbian and Croatian are two separate languages, even though they are almost identical. As for your question, Croatian, as well as almost all slavic languages, is flexive. Macedonian and Bulgarian have some agglutinative properties, due to influence of Turkish.

 

[Rusty Skull]

So-called "Croatian" and "Bosnian" are nothing but Serbian that is spoken in diffrent parts of former SFRY.

Just like Chinese is spoken difrently in difrent parts of China.

 

[Ratty Sr.]

So-called "Croatian" and "Bosnian" are nothing but Serbian that is spoken in diffrent parts of former SFRY.

Grrrr... Same way I could say that so-called "Serbian" is nothing but Croatian spoken in different parts of former Kingdom of Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia.

 

[Rusty Skull]

But it isn't...

Look,Ratty,we could go like this forever.

I sugest we ask Swiss language expert to decide what is right and what is wrong,and focus ourselves on spiting language that is foreign and uncomprehendable for us both.

 

[John Uskglass]

I'm not Ratty, but I'll barge in anyway - Slavic languages are synthetic with a light sprinkle of agglutination. If you want a true agglutination bonanza, you must aim a bit further to the north - i.e. Hungary.

Yup. It's Urlaic, thus it's agglutinative, just like how Mongolian+Turkish are as they are members of the Altaic group, and probably Japanese and Korean.

I always thought it was though. Werid.

Then again, they don't have that many speakers, so they probably wouldn't be all that interesting apart from Russian maybe?

I used to be able to carry on a conversation in Russian, but it's rustier then it should be. I generally love the Slavic languages...they tend to not sound as attractive as some of the Romantic languages, but they tend to be alot more playful then any other language group.

Calling my language "Serbo-Croatian" is a sure way to get a kick in the balls.

Don't know if you know this, but Bosnians are the third largest immigrant group to Chicago (After Mexicans and Poles), and I've run into that reaction before, but I don't really think that's accurate. If Sicilian and the Italian of the Veneto are the same language, then certainly Croation and Serbian.

Macedonian and Bulgarian have some agglutinative properties, due to influence of Turkish

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Oy, not Turkish, Bulgarian. The Bulgars where an altiac people, probably Turkick, who came into Bulgaria/Romania/Macedonia, and where eventually completely slavified.

 

[John Uskglass]

Just like Chinese is spoken difrently in difrent parts of China.

Terrible example. Cantonese and Mandarin sound like two completely diffirent languages.......fuck, they are. I know some Mandarin from my dad, and I'm more likely to understand Korean then Cantonese.

 

[Big T]

You could always discuss the UK English vs US English

Depend what you mean by "UK English".
The Queen's English (IE: The English spoken by the Queen) is very different from, say, Cockney English, Scouse English, Geordie English, Yorkshire English Etc.
The same could be said about US English. I'm sure there are major differences between, say, a New Yorker and someone from the Deep South.
Arguing that dialects are separate languages is, for the most part, stupid.

 

[John Uskglass]

You could always discuss the UK English vs US English

Depend what you mean by "UK English".
The Queen's English (IE: The English spoken by the Queen) is very different from, say, Cockney English, Scouse English, Geordie English, Yorkshire English Etc.
The same could be said about US English. I'm sure there are major differences between, say, a New Yorker and someone from the Deep South.
Arguing that dialects are separate languages is, for the most part, stupid.

We can understand eachother. The same cannot be said for Scotts English, Cockney and Welsh English.

 

[Ratty Sr.]

I sugest we ask Swiss language expert to decide what is right and what is wrong,and focus ourselves on spiting language that is foreign and uncomprehendable for us both.

I concurr. I think German sounds gay.

 

[Elissar]

German sounds awesome.... what other language sounds as much like people just growling at eachother?

 

[Rusty Skull]

I agree.

Ratty,the fagiest language i can think of is French.

 

[John Uskglass]

I sugest we ask Swiss language expert to decide what is right and what is wrong,and focus ourselves on spiting language that is foreign and uncomprehendable for us both.

I concurr. I think German sounds gay.

German is the most expressive language. And it sounds cool in submarines. And it's the language of some of the best scholarly work in Byzantine History.

the gheyest languages are, in order of ghayness:
Vietnamese. Damn, this is one fugly language.
Dutch. It's kind of fun to toy with due to it's similarities with English, but most of the time it sounds like a drunk Finn trying to speak Danish. No offence.
English. I'm not even certain if it's a real language any more. Half of it's French, the other half German, the other half Swedish......it's really a kind of ghey puppy.
Mexican Spanish. It's an unholy abomination upon the otherwise beautiful Iberian languages.

 

[Elissar]

English. I'm not even certain if it's a real language any more. Half of it's French, the other half German, the other half Swedish......it's really a kind of ghey puppy.

English HAS to be the best language... it has 3 halves. no other language can boast that.

 

[John Uskglass]

English. I'm not even certain if it's a real language any more. Half of it's French, the other half German, the other half Swedish......it's really a kind of ghey puppy.

English HAS to be the best language... it has 3 halves. no other language can boast that.

Hehe, yeah.

THIS is real English
Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum
si þin nama gehalgod
tobecume þin rice
gewurþe þin willa
on eorðan swa swa on heofonum
urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us to dæg
and forgyf us ure gyltas
swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum
and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge
ac alys us of yfele soþlice.

 

[megatron]

no way man, I'm speaking English right this very minute! It's not some crazy russian elle ghou heste type of language, it's a mash of all the countries that invaded us. The greatest countries EVAR!

I've got your picture
I've got your picture
I'd like a million of you all to myself
I want a doctor to take your picture
So I can look at you from inside as well
You've got me turning up
I'm turning down
I'm turning in
I'm turning round
I'm turning Japanese
I think I'm turning Japanese
I really think so
etc.

 

[John Uskglass]

no way man, I'm speaking English right this very minute! It's not some crazy russian elle ghou heste type of language, it's a mash of all the countries that invaded us. The greatest countries EVAR!

Considering that we where invaded by and conquered by the Danes (save the Saxons, and the Welsh) not once but TWICE, I would not say that we where invaded by the greatest countries EVAR (I saw "we" as I'm probably as WASPY as anybody here)

 

[DJ Slamák]

Macedonian and Bulgarian have some agglutinative properties, due to influence of Turkish

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Is that for sure? It's not like I actually know anything about Bulgarian (and since we're in the business of splicing/merging languages, Macedonian is little more than a dialect of Bulgarian ), but from what I've seen it actually seemed very analytic. I.e. fixed word order, no inflection (extensive use of prepositions instead), and what have you. Should have mentioned that before, too.

And English is basically a creole, and AFAIK those are considered separate languages, so there.

 

[Johns Volition]

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Hey that didn't mean anything at all..
German can be a very beautiful sounding languange, if spoken by somebody who really can speak it (preferably a women)...
And hey.. all these ww2 movie german expressions like "Haltet ihn" do really sound like the guy speaking it is kind some kind of american emigrant trying to speak german, the loudest way possible. (Kind of funny though)

So my conclusion: Nimm Deutsch
or.. take japanese.. it's way more useful that chinese.

 

[MrMarcus]

Considering that we where invaded by and conquered by the Danes (save the Saxons, and the Welsh) not once but TWICE, I would not say that we where invaded by the greatest countries EVAR (I saw "we" as I'm probably as WASPY as anybody here)

When did the Danish conquer Chicago?