Upcoming RPG's 2013/2014/2015

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I'm thinking about upgrading my pc, i need to do it soon or i won't have the opportunity again.

That is if i do it.

I've been observing different upcoming games lists, mostly looking for rpg's.

What i have found out is that all the games that will interest me don't require an upgrade (dragon age 3, south park, bioshock infinite, divinity OS, far cry 3, wasteland 2).

Anymore upcoming games that would interest me?

Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk will prolly be released sometime in 2015 so my upgrade will be useless by then.

I upgrade because i have to (in order to play at decent FPS and settings).

It pisses me off so bad when all those hinges eat up the crass lies and hype of the tech niche and producer publicity and think that they need more than 4 gb of ram or an i5 or a top video card every 2 years are required to play video games decently and act like games won't even run on a pentium dual core or a mid video card.

I have a pentium 4 with HT , 2 GB ram and an ati 4650 and can play all 2010-2011 games on medium with no problem, games older than that i can play on high.

Saw a youtube video in which a guy with my specs got 30 FPS/average in Skyrim.

So if you are a stupid kid and want to waste your parent's money , do yourself a favor and buy a Iphone instead, at least then you will be a trendy idiot.
 
Trying to anticipate games more than six months ahead is trying to catch a ghost in a net. That and games do seem to get even more bloaty and stuffed with candy as each day passes.

I've run your specs through a semi-random selection of '11 releases. You're right on the fringe, though your g-card held up a tad better than the CPU. At least according to the lists I consulted. Oh, and you're currently unable to run Skyrim at all... so that guy is either lying or doesn't know what he's really talking about. (Not sure where the site got their info from; it could just be the "supported lists" provided by the makers. Sometime's they're wrong). On a personal level, I have a fair bit more (power) than you and I get lags on Oblivion (only a couple) and I ain't running it on max spec. So I'm a little suspicious of this guy's claim.


You're gonna need a new CPU. That *may* mean a new motherboard. Knocking on, this *may* mean new RAM if your current one don't fit. The m-board won't have a AGP slot, so you'll need a new g-card if your's is one (didn't say - the 4650 did have a AGP model). Might need converter cables if your drives are IDE and m-board isn't. But might as well upgrade the g-card as it's rather creaky too.

What OS are you running? If it's XP... oh dear. Most new games have ditched XP compatability now. As only 8%-6% of PC's still use Vista (compared to XP's 40%-25%), I can see the writing on the wall for that OS too.

Oh, and if that's not enough, if your rig changes too much, the OS might think it's a new computer and demand re-activation. Which is a bitch if the company you bought the rig from didn't give you the stuff to do so. (Bet they didn't... those bastards never do).

So in conclusion, it'll be a bitch to do and will almost cost more than a new PC of superior specs. True custom-builds only make sense money-wise when you're shopping at the top-end and know
exactly what you want.
 
If you want to look ahead for 2014-2015, you might want to get a double, if not triple, GPU setup. For example, two GTX 690's SLI will get the job done for a lot of RPGs within the next year or two, but probably not FPS (generally, something akin to Battlefield 3 or Crysis will come out).

As KarmaPolice said, you will need to build a whole new custom PC. Generally, the top-of-the-line, off-the-shelf ones are filled with unnecessary stuff (like 16GB RAM and a 1TB HDD whilst having a GTX 580), so it's better to build something yourself. Get yourself a budget goal, set out all of the major details that you require (Ivy Bridge, quad-core CPU, SLI GPU, motherboard with support for future hardware, or whatever you want) and then start looking for everything else not on your list, that will fit within said budget. You might have to stretch it.

Generally, however, you will need to upgrade sooner or later. You could always purchase a GTX 690 (as it will play all of current games at any given resolution at a decent framerate on highest graphical settings) and then another one on the go, and then another one (they will be cheaper by then)... Just make sure that your motherboard has enough PCI slots. I made the mistake of buying a motherboard which doesn't support another 3.0 PCI graphics card, meaning I'll have to replace it if I want an upgrade.
 
you could simply wait for 2015 and buy the hardware then. Best move. Because you will get it much cheaper then and it will be decent enough hardware to play 2015 games.
 
KarmaPolice said:
Trying to anticipate games more than six months ahead is trying to catch a ghost in a net. That and games do seem to get even more bloaty and stuffed with candy as each day passes.

I've run your specs through a semi-random selection of '11 releases. You're right on the fringe, though your g-card held up a tad better than the CPU. At least according to the lists I consulted. Oh, and you're currently unable to run Skyrim at all... so that guy is either lying or doesn't know what he's really talking about. (Not sure where the site got their info from; it could just be the "supported lists" provided by the makers. Sometime's they're wrong). On a personal level, I have a fair bit more (power) than you and I get lags on Oblivion (only a couple) and I ain't running it on max spec. So I'm a little suspicious of this guy's claim.


You're gonna need a new CPU. That *may* mean a new motherboard. Knocking on, this *may* mean new RAM if your current one don't fit. The m-board won't have a AGP slot, so you'll need a new g-card if your's is one (didn't say - the 4650 did have a AGP model). Might need converter cables if your drives are IDE and m-board isn't. But might as well upgrade the g-card as it's rather creaky too.

What OS are you running? If it's XP... oh dear. Most new games have ditched XP compatability now. As only 8%-6% of PC's still use Vista (compared to XP's 40%-25%), I can see the writing on the wall for that OS too.

Oh, and if that's not enough, if your rig changes too much, the OS might think it's a new computer and demand re-activation. Which is a bitch if the company you bought the rig from didn't give you the stuff to do so. (Bet they didn't... those bastards never do).

So in conclusion, it'll be a bitch to do and will almost cost more than a new PC of superior specs. True custom-builds only make sense money-wise when you're shopping at the top-end and know
exactly what you want.
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My MB supports core 2 duo wolfdale CPU's. (it's LGA 775)

I was thinking of getting a new pentium e6600 (similar performance in games with e7xxx core 2 duos) a new 6670 ati card and a 4 gb ddr3 module.

I'm hesitant on paying 100$ for that old cpu , but i'm even more hesitant to buy a used one because the previous owner is almost certain to have overclocked it (it's a craze) .

I have a IT shop here that will buy my old stuff with a fair price so it will cost me in total less than 150 $ (after the sell deduction).

Problem is there are no worthwhile games in the near future and the upgrade won't last until there are.

Also why do you think i can't run skyrim ? Maybe the 3-4 vids on youtube of p4's rolling it are lies , but one of my friend runs it "well enough" on a amd e-350 . 2gb ram and 6310m video card on lowest settings.

My cpu is stronger than e-350 (p4 530j) , i use xp and thus need less ram and have a much better video card- with those in mind i think at the very least i could get 30+ fps on low.

I can run Oblivion on max settings with no lag or slowdown (happens rarely and is not staggering- in intense battles or crowded areas)

You could try running it on XP , it seems to render better results in games for me.
 
Crni Vuk said:
you could simply wait for 2015 and buy the hardware then. Best move. Because you will get it much cheaper then and it will be decent enough hardware to play 2015 games.
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Yeah , i need to buy a new laptop in 2015 anyway (the warranty expires then) so i can prolly play most 2015 and previous games on it .

But i still need to consider upgrading my pc since i won't be able to play anything new till then.

Also remembered a new title i won't be able to play : Metro last light.
 
Also about xp no longer being supported- i wouldn't worry about that.

Microsoft's greed saves folks like me a lot of money on upgrading .

They said they want to squeeze 10 years from the xbox 360 - that means dx9 supported games till 2015 and less frequent upgrades as games are less evolved as to be able to be played on the old consoles.
 
My main rig has XP pushing the physcial limits of the OS. It did come with 7 pre-installed, but I found the backwards compatability simply awful. (I'm a retrogamers, from 16-bit era onwards. The only games I found hard to run on XP was Panzer General and C&C / Red Alert I. Too much RAM, it seems.) And there doesn't seem to be hardly any games I'm missing. Gaming is the only thing keeping me glued to Microsoft's teat. If 8 continues this problem... I'm defecting to Linux.

True about the XBox, but most the games I play are not the kind released on consoles... so they don't need to bother about that issue. Other programs are less a worry, as XP is still serving everywhere in business and non-game home users (that's not mentioning embedded systems).

I'll admit, I didn't do a hell much of research about full compatabilty - just ran your specs through http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=625&game=The Elder Scrolls V. I'll repeat - this could just be the "supported lists" provided by the manufacturers. I've ran games in the past when not on that list - only KOTOR was a bitch and refused to even try. (Note - it says Skyirm won't run that laptop too. So perhaps it's full of it).

You're lucky that a good IT shop is still near you - the ones near me are rip-off city / full of ego-tripping wankers / just catering for £250+ parts. Or a combination of all three. (No wonder "normal" people hate PC's).

I'm an economics grad, so I look at everything through the prism of money. My last two PC's are ex-demo units that were 65% and 53% cheaper respectivley (than if I'd done it myself). I simply got it home, put in the g-card and clean installed the OS(s). I've done this for others too, and they've all worked well. Even ACER and Lenovo ones. No, really. (Note, prices include parts and XP disc. My time is worthless).

I was more debating the cost-effectiveness in spending such cash on an upgrade when a entry-level destop may not cost much more. Get one on the maximum limit for XP, get a new g-card, downgrade it and enjoy. As it'll be younger too, less worry about other parts going bang. You could partition the drive, and hide the part with 7 on it, so you can bring it back one day if you so desire.

Oblivion?... erm, I am running it on XP. As I said, it only lags a couple of times, and not that bad (final battle, for example). But I have got distance set to max. And have been tinkering around with mods and hacks etc.
 
KarmaPolice said:
My main rig has XP pushing the physcial limits of the OS. It did come with 7 pre-installed, but I found the backwards compatability simply awful. (I'm a retrogamers, from 16-bit era onwards. The only games I found hard to run on XP was Panzer General and C&C / Red Alert I. Too much RAM, it seems.) And there doesn't seem to be hardly any games I'm missing. Gaming is the only thing keeping me glued to Microsoft's teat. If 8 continues this problem... I'm defecting to Linux.

True about the XBox, but most the games I play are not the kind released on consoles... so they don't need to bother about that issue. Other programs are less a worry, as XP is still serving everywhere in business and non-game home users (that's not mentioning embedded systems).

I'll admit, I didn't do a hell much of research about full compatabilty - just ran your specs through http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=625&game=The Elder Scrolls V. I'll repeat - this could just be the "supported lists" provided by the manufacturers. I've ran games in the past when not on that list - only KOTOR was a bitch and refused to even try. (Note - it says Skyirm won't run that laptop too. So perhaps it's full of it).

You're lucky that a good IT shop is still near you - the ones near me are rip-off city / full of ego-tripping wankers / just catering for £250+ parts. Or a combination of all three. (No wonder "normal" people hate PC's).

I'm an economics grad, so I look at everything through the prism of money. My last two PC's are ex-demo units that were 65% and 53% cheaper respectivley (than if I'd done it myself). I simply got it home, put in the g-card and clean installed the OS(s). I've done this for others too, and they've all worked well. Even ACER and Lenovo ones. No, really. (Note, prices include parts and XP disc. My time is worthless).

I was more debating the cost-effectiveness in spending such cash on an upgrade when a entry-level destop may not cost much more. Get one on the maximum limit for XP, get a new g-card, downgrade it and enjoy. As it'll be younger too, less worry about other parts going bang. You could partition the drive, and hide the part with 7 on it, so you can bring it back one day if you so desire.

Oblivion?... erm, I am running it on XP. As I said, it only lags a couple of times, and not that bad (final battle, for example). But I have got distance set to max. And have been tinkering around with mods and hacks etc.
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I also look at these things from the cost effectiveness perspective.

About the IT shop thing- i live in a poor EU country that is in deep shit economically, these SH parts sell because some normal users (office, music, movies, internet users) with older pc's won't invest in a new computer when the old one breaks down so they need the old parts.

I'll never understand why a woman or a novice user spends so much money on a PC/Laptop. Why the fuck would you need a 700-1000$ PC/laptop just to gossip with your stupid friends on messenger or do a spreadsheet or listen to music i will never understand. The cheapest laptop will accomplish that just fine, a PC that price is just overkill.


I also play very old games - last ones i played were Quest for glory (just awesome and witty characters, writing and quests) and Fountain of Dreams (wasteland 2 to be). I have enough old games to play and new ones to re-play to keep me busy for 3 years, so yeah, but i'm still thinking about upgrading , will prolly not, as these years don't look very good.

Pity i can't seem to install XP on my laptop, hope i won't encounter compatibility issues with win 7.
 
Now you've got me thinking...

How about other possible places to get a new(ish) computer? Places like pawn shops, bankrupcy auctions etc? I know this might sound obvious, but here in the UK people are starting to re-learn about stuff like that. A second-hand electronics store in a rich part of town might be an idea too - I know of antique dealers that specialise in haunting retirement towns on the coast. Universities and colleges too - my alta mater used to have electronic auctions every year. They never bothered to advertise either, so the prices were dirt cheap. Lastly, the occasional jumble sale. Each year I travel back to near where I used to live for a school jumble sale... which happens to be in one of the richest parts of the country (I didn't live there, I lived in the slum nearby :) ) Last year I picked up an P4 for near nothing.

Erm... it's not just noobs or women who spend stupid amounts of cash on laptops. I did too, once. £1000 on a high-end model back in '03. Silly, silly me. Unreliable, ran very hot and gave up the ghost three weeks out of warranty. Parts hideiously expensive. I keep it now as a monument to my stupidity. Live and learn, eh?
 
The beauty of running a 10 year old PC is I haven't had to experience any of the game from 2004 onwards...ignorance is bliss. So I just play the oldies and sip on my honey lemon tea. I'm grateful to my old lady, she never disappoints. :wink:
 
.Pixote. said:
The beauty of running a 10 year old PC is I haven't had to experience any of the game from 2004 onwards...ignorance is bliss. So I just play the oldies and sip on my honey lemon tea. I'm grateful to my old lady, she never disappoints. :wink:
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Good luck with Wasteland 2 ;)
 
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