War Thunder Apologetics.

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yeah they do seem to favour the Russians... why am I not surprised...

Cyka blyat!

;D

Nah.

Being honest here, there IS some russian bias, postwar ammo for only russian tanks, german armour geting a -5% modifier because 'bad quality' (9_9 Because Russian armour was top notch, right?), russians getting way more HEAT-FS (Cheat-FS instant penetration rounds), etc.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Cyka blyat!

;D

Nah.

Being honest here, there IS some russian bias, postwar ammo for only russian tanks, german armour geting a -5% modifier because 'bad quality' (9_9 Because Russian armour was top notch, right?), russians getting way more HEAT-FS (Cheat-FS instant penetration rounds), etc.

Yeah, I mean Russian tanks were good but not THAT good.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yeah, I mean Russian tanks were good but not THAT good.

Technically speaking, they KIIIIIIIIINDA were 'that good' in stats.

What made them shit in reality, is bad armour quality, and 'hidden' flaws, like shitty transmissions which needed a hammer to operate, bad radios, cramped turrets, etc.

Stuff the game does not factor in.

Converely, German tanks, while powerful, were grossly shit for their weight, and overall were not much better than tanks 5-10 tons lighter.

The issues IMO, is that again, they aren't historically tiered at all, so tiger 1's are fighting tanks made postwar.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Yeah if they were historically tiered then the game developers could factor in all their strengths and weaknesses without worrying that it would weaken the tank insanely against post-war vehicles.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yeah if they were historically tiered then the game developers could factor in all their strengths and weaknesses without worrying that it would weaken the tank insanely against post-war vehicles.

Oh man it pisses me off so fucking much, that my 229 is fighting fuckign sabres.

Their cllimbrate is like 30-50m/s

Mine is like...Less than 20.

How is that remotely fair?

 

[Zerginfestor]

please, as an American Tank player, I have to say leveling American Tank is literally hell. It's all fun and games in rank 1 and 2 until you're slammed into a wall by a fucking sledgehammer wielded by a Russian bandit going "WELCOME TO RANK 3, SUKA!". From my experience, you HAVE to play on RB with American Tanks, and you HAVE to hide a lot. The fucking tanks of the Shermans are all designed to be literal glass cannons, and even then their cannons hardly puncture shit. From what I hear, Rank 4 is "Murica, FUCK YEAAAH" tier, and afterwards it's all "meh" and blurry from there on out.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

please, as an American Tank player, I have to say leveling American Tank is literally hell. It's all fun and games in rank 1 and 2 until you're slammed into a wall by a fucking sledgehammer wielded by a Russian bandit going "WELCOME TO RANK 3, SUKA!". From my experience, you HAVE to play on RB with American Tanks, and you HAVE to hide a lot. The fucking tanks of the Shermans are all designed to be literal glass cannons, and even then their cannons hardly puncture shit. From what I hear, Rank 4 is "Murica, FUCK YEAAAH" tier, and afterwards it's all "meh" and blurry from there on out.

Tanks/ground forces is cancer, end of story.

Every tier has its cancer, with early tiers dominated by german AA, and later tiers dominated by Russia blitzes.

 

[Zerginfestor]

Tanks/ground forces is cancer, end of story.

Every tier has its cancer, with early tiers dominated by german AA, and later tiers dominated by Russia blitzes.

When the German AA car is scarier to deal with than the actual fucking tanks, you know you have a fucked up game.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

When the German AA car is scarier to deal with than the actual fucking tanks, you know you have a fucked up game.

To a degree, it makes sense.

A 20mm autocannon will fuck up early tanks at close range easier than a 50mm cannon will, on account of its ROF.

The issue is multiple parts.

AA has APCR, which historically was VERY FUCKING RARELY USED, and yet you can load entire belts with it ingame.

AA also gets closer to tanks than they historically did, due to map design being god awful and benefiting brawler tanks like Russian ones, more than the large open areas which historically led to tigers/panthers dominating.