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Wait, no, it's...The US, the US never learns...

Really, they don't. A choice quote is the headline:

U.S. arming Sunnis in Iraq to battle old Qaeda allies

Man, that sounds familiar somehow. Let me try some alternatives..."U.S. arming Iraq to fight Iran." "U.S. arming Taliban to fight the S.U."

Wow, am I having a deja vu or is the US extremely bad at learning from their mistakes. The last three paragraphs of the Tribune's coverage are poignant:
"They say, 'We hate you because you are occupiers' " he said, " 'but we hate Al Qaeda worse, and we hate the Persians even more.' " Sunni militants refer to Iraq's Shiites as Persians, a reference to the strong links between Iraqi Shiites and the Shiites who predominate in Iran.

An Iraqi government official who was reached by telephone on Sunday said the government was uncomfortable with the American negotiations with the Sunni groups because they offered no guarantee that the militias would be loyal to anyone other than the American commander in their immediate area. "The government's aim is to disarm and demobilize the militias in Iraq," said Sadiq al-Rikabi, a political adviser to Maliki. "And we have enough militias in Iraq that we are struggling now to solve the problem. Why are we creating new ones?"

Despite such views, Lynch said, the Americans believed that Sunni groups offering to fight Al Qaeda and halt attacks on American and Iraqi forces met a basic condition for reestablishing stability in insurgent-hit areas: they had roots in the areas where they operated, and thus held out the prospect of building security from the ground up. He cited areas in Babil Province where there were "no security forces, zero, zilch," and added: "When you've got people who say, 'I want to protect my neighbors,' we ought to jump like a duck on a junebug."


Ok, guys, the bookies are open, how many people will bet that these guys will turns on the US with US weapons first chance they get? The stakes are 1 to 1? Why, because the odds of that happening are 100%. Place your bets!
 
The current government in the USA is on their way out, so this might just buy them some peace for the time being... so it's either stupidity or irresponsability. GWB et al will be long gone when this problem surfaces, and few will remember the mistake.
 
Ammunition for Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, Afghanistan National Security Forces and the Government of Iraq

the short version: contract by the US government to supply their Iraqi & Aghani allies with ammunition.
i believe the total was 160 million rounds of various ammunition. you could thrown a decent party with that.

funny tbh. they disarmed like 75% of the Iraqi population. or at least most of the 'have nots'. but they allowed the rich iraqis to keep their arsenal AND have armed bodyguards.

now the normal population is totally defenseless against both insurgents AND various criminals. of course, the US forces and the local security forces cant protect everyone. lawlessness rules supreme.
 
Next step: selling chemical weapons to Iraq or/and Iran, so the place is ripe for invading again in some twenty years.
 
I've given up all hope for our current "administration". Their interests are only truly related to proft for themselves (as if that's a surprise).

I've never seen a more inept goverment then we currently have.

I can't believe when I told my wife that I wished Clinton was back in office.
 
I laughed when I saw this. Also note that we are arming the little country next to Georgia... Hummmm what for? the 4 trillion dollars in oil sitting there? noooooo couldn't be.
 
It kinda speaks for itself, when four or five years ago this would have spurred heated debates in the forum, all i can sense now is resignation within the forum members. Not a single person on these forums doubt this is happening or feel like defending the administration.

Will be fun when a new administration shows upp and get the debates going again.
 
Suppressing something will never work, you have to cut out the element that opposes you, for if you only suppress, that just makes that element stronger and stronger until they gain dominion over you.


This is what we should have done from the beginning. Dumbshit government.
 
Plasma-pip said:
Suppressing something will never work, you have to cut out the element that opposes you, for if you only suppress, that just makes that element stronger and stronger until they gain dominion over you.


This is what we should have done from the beginning. Dumbshit government.

You almost sound... Disappointed that folk want to send this administration packin....
 
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