Mr Fish
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What are some of your unpopular opinions?
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CrimsonRose
Freak on a Leash
I completely forgot Starfield existed. Played it on game pass back when it first came out because I couldn't be assed to actually buy it. I have no desire to try it again, but you never know.
slacker
Why work when you can raid?
Vault Dweller Donny
Explorer of the wastes
My hot take is fallout 2 is better and even with the wacky stuff involved, is the best game in the series
CrimsonRose
Freak on a Leash
I dislike melee builds in these games. I'm not completely opposed to it, but I'm more of an energy weapons or sniper type. Also, I really don't have the patience to sneak around either and I really wish I did.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
IDK if this is an unpopular opinion here or not but - I do not care for the New Vegas DLCs, do not care for them.
They insist upon themselves.
In all seriousness, I think first of all they detract from the main game. You have this tight storyline about the approaching Battle of Hoover Dam, tensions are rising, the moment of the battle is drawing ever closer - So let's break the tone and pacing to fuck around on a caravan to Utah for no reason whatsoever. Two of the 4 DLCs have you be kidnapped - because that's the only sensical way they could get the player involved in the plot, and I think that's a statement about the DLC formula, that you need to come up with bullshit for it to make sense.
Of the DLCs:
-Dead Money is amazing, the devs tried Survival Horror and did a good job. It always makes me really tense - Having it so your usual tools for dealing with situations don't work is good, I like how each of the companions helps you deal with a specific hazard, I like how you have a Barter/Speech check that if you take it's actually worse for you in the long-run because trying to one-up Dean Domino leaves him bitter towards you, all in all great experience.
-Old World Blues sucks and I hate playing it- So in order to get the Stealth Suit you have to go through a Stealth test and then do harder difficulties to get all the upgrades - This creates the impression that you're going to get a variety of different tools and have different challenges associated with them, but no, you have the stealth segment, then you have this corridoor shooter you're going to have to repeat multiple times and that's it - God forbid we have variety to our challenges. The "Side content" to this DLC is also ass - Go fucking go to all these locations with nothing that interesting in them to find all the Sink Personalities, and their upgrades, it's just fetch quests, worse if you just ignore everything, you get an ending slide telling you how you suck because you didn't explore the map. The game gives you a choice between "Have the Sink be lonely and worthless as a base, or go to all these locations shoot enemies and fetch items" and it just all feels tedious, which is a shame because the idea of having a little base you can upgrade your equipment is decent. The writing and humor can be kinda good, but it also drags on way too much - The most obnoxious part is the intro, where they try to have a back and forth conversation between all the Think Tank, something the engine wasn't made for, plus the back and forth about figuring out the Lobotomy didn't rid you of your reasoning goes on for way too long before they actually realise it.
-Honest Hearts is ok, I find the way the Tribal characters are written a little cringe, and I think having the lives and customs of the local people play second fiddle to two angsty mormons arguing with each other was the wrong call - I want to see the internal struggles of communities be the big driving factor in Fallout, not the two people who actually get to make decisions. I think Joshua Graham is an interesting character, especially since he's one of those "Speaks confidently and charismatically so people overlook the fact that his entire line of reasoning is completely self-serving" types like Mr House - I like characters like that. The Survivalist/Father in the Caves plot is interesting to unravel, but that's all the real side content there is. Some of the quests like finding the missing bighorner calf, or destroying the totems were interesting and I like to see a little bit of variety in your objectives so they were a breath of fresh air.
-I don't like Lonesome Road. It's a boring corridor shooter with a bunch of Deathclaws, and Ulysses is annoying - For a guy whose idea is "Nuke both NCR and Legion and start over", he sure delivers it in the most boring, rambly way possible. I guess it expands ED-E's backstory so that's ok, but it's a different body for ED-E, and also you know, we already see a bit about him in the basegame.
So you got one home run, two stinkers, and one kinda mid DLC. For a series of DLC that are so well acclaimed, and some people say is better than the main-game itself, I find I'm in the minority opinion here of thinking, honestly there's only one of them that I actually like going back and playing.
They insist upon themselves.
In all seriousness, I think first of all they detract from the main game. You have this tight storyline about the approaching Battle of Hoover Dam, tensions are rising, the moment of the battle is drawing ever closer - So let's break the tone and pacing to fuck around on a caravan to Utah for no reason whatsoever. Two of the 4 DLCs have you be kidnapped - because that's the only sensical way they could get the player involved in the plot, and I think that's a statement about the DLC formula, that you need to come up with bullshit for it to make sense.
Of the DLCs:
-Dead Money is amazing, the devs tried Survival Horror and did a good job. It always makes me really tense - Having it so your usual tools for dealing with situations don't work is good, I like how each of the companions helps you deal with a specific hazard, I like how you have a Barter/Speech check that if you take it's actually worse for you in the long-run because trying to one-up Dean Domino leaves him bitter towards you, all in all great experience.
-Old World Blues sucks and I hate playing it- So in order to get the Stealth Suit you have to go through a Stealth test and then do harder difficulties to get all the upgrades - This creates the impression that you're going to get a variety of different tools and have different challenges associated with them, but no, you have the stealth segment, then you have this corridoor shooter you're going to have to repeat multiple times and that's it - God forbid we have variety to our challenges. The "Side content" to this DLC is also ass - Go fucking go to all these locations with nothing that interesting in them to find all the Sink Personalities, and their upgrades, it's just fetch quests, worse if you just ignore everything, you get an ending slide telling you how you suck because you didn't explore the map. The game gives you a choice between "Have the Sink be lonely and worthless as a base, or go to all these locations shoot enemies and fetch items" and it just all feels tedious, which is a shame because the idea of having a little base you can upgrade your equipment is decent. The writing and humor can be kinda good, but it also drags on way too much - The most obnoxious part is the intro, where they try to have a back and forth conversation between all the Think Tank, something the engine wasn't made for, plus the back and forth about figuring out the Lobotomy didn't rid you of your reasoning goes on for way too long before they actually realise it.
-Honest Hearts is ok, I find the way the Tribal characters are written a little cringe, and I think having the lives and customs of the local people play second fiddle to two angsty mormons arguing with each other was the wrong call - I want to see the internal struggles of communities be the big driving factor in Fallout, not the two people who actually get to make decisions. I think Joshua Graham is an interesting character, especially since he's one of those "Speaks confidently and charismatically so people overlook the fact that his entire line of reasoning is completely self-serving" types like Mr House - I like characters like that. The Survivalist/Father in the Caves plot is interesting to unravel, but that's all the real side content there is. Some of the quests like finding the missing bighorner calf, or destroying the totems were interesting and I like to see a little bit of variety in your objectives so they were a breath of fresh air.
-I don't like Lonesome Road. It's a boring corridor shooter with a bunch of Deathclaws, and Ulysses is annoying - For a guy whose idea is "Nuke both NCR and Legion and start over", he sure delivers it in the most boring, rambly way possible. I guess it expands ED-E's backstory so that's ok, but it's a different body for ED-E, and also you know, we already see a bit about him in the basegame.
So you got one home run, two stinkers, and one kinda mid DLC. For a series of DLC that are so well acclaimed, and some people say is better than the main-game itself, I find I'm in the minority opinion here of thinking, honestly there's only one of them that I actually like going back and playing.
Norzan
Half-way Through My Half-life
I think that's actually the general opinions of the New Vegas DLC.
Dead Money got shat on early on (mainly for the speakers that would cause your bomb collar to go off), but the very strong writing over time made a lot of people come around it.
I somewhat like Old World Blues, but that's solely for the somewhat strong writing and very dark implications with the Think Tank. Gameplay is poop, who thought constantly respawning enemies in the overworld was a good idea?
Honest Hearts gets mostly praise for how good Joshua Graham is as a character. The rest of the DLC is fine, nothing offensive.
Never liked Lonesome Road too and Ulysses kind of sucks. In fact, Ulysses should have been the Legion companion of the base game because there isn't a companion for the faction in the base game and the game desperately needed one to give more context to the Legion.
And last, no about the DLCs being better than the base game. Dead Money is the only one that gives a run for its money, arguably the strongest part of the game has been always the base game.
Dead Money got shat on early on (mainly for the speakers that would cause your bomb collar to go off), but the very strong writing over time made a lot of people come around it.
I somewhat like Old World Blues, but that's solely for the somewhat strong writing and very dark implications with the Think Tank. Gameplay is poop, who thought constantly respawning enemies in the overworld was a good idea?
Honest Hearts gets mostly praise for how good Joshua Graham is as a character. The rest of the DLC is fine, nothing offensive.
Never liked Lonesome Road too and Ulysses kind of sucks. In fact, Ulysses should have been the Legion companion of the base game because there isn't a companion for the faction in the base game and the game desperately needed one to give more context to the Legion.
And last, no about the DLCs being better than the base game. Dead Money is the only one that gives a run for its money, arguably the strongest part of the game has been always the base game.
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CrimsonRose
Freak on a Leash
I'm pretty sure I gave my opinion on the DLCs awhile back, but given that I've replayed them since then, I'll give it another round. This place could also use the posts. Mostly ranting and complaining.
Old World Blues is my favorite of the DLCs. You just can't take it seriously. It's sort of like a funny comic, I guess. And homicidal toasters and Muggy! That annoying little shit. At one point I had over 1000 stimpaks stored up that were useless at that point. Oh, and gotta agree with Norzan on respawning enemies. Lame.
Other than Joshua Graham, who was a good character, I'm indifferent to Honest Hearts. It's not bad, it's not good. Would've liked to have Graham as a base companion.
Kinda hated Dead Money at first but as I got further into it, I loved it. Absolutely loved the writing. Most of the complaints I had were things that were my fault because of my playstyles. I kept doing stupid shit like stepping on mines. I also went in ill prepared. Dean was a good asshole character, but I killed his scummy ass and would do it again. Dude backstabs you if you even slightly bruise his ego. Sore loser.
Ulysses can eat a bag of dicks. I didn't care for Lonesome Road. Not even ED-E could save it. The dialogue is tedious(looking at you, Ulysses, in love with your own voice), and it's too linear for an open-world game. Did I mention Ulysses can choke on a dick? Good grief, I hated this guy. Asshole.
The Legion can push daisies. Having grown up around a bunch of misogynistic old men, that shit don't fly with me. A woman with purple hair and nerdy doctor wiped out their base last time I played just for the lolz. I suppose maybe I should side with them at some point...
Old World Blues is my favorite of the DLCs. You just can't take it seriously. It's sort of like a funny comic, I guess. And homicidal toasters and Muggy! That annoying little shit. At one point I had over 1000 stimpaks stored up that were useless at that point. Oh, and gotta agree with Norzan on respawning enemies. Lame.
Other than Joshua Graham, who was a good character, I'm indifferent to Honest Hearts. It's not bad, it's not good. Would've liked to have Graham as a base companion.
Kinda hated Dead Money at first but as I got further into it, I loved it. Absolutely loved the writing. Most of the complaints I had were things that were my fault because of my playstyles. I kept doing stupid shit like stepping on mines. I also went in ill prepared. Dean was a good asshole character, but I killed his scummy ass and would do it again. Dude backstabs you if you even slightly bruise his ego. Sore loser.
Ulysses can eat a bag of dicks. I didn't care for Lonesome Road. Not even ED-E could save it. The dialogue is tedious(looking at you, Ulysses, in love with your own voice), and it's too linear for an open-world game. Did I mention Ulysses can choke on a dick? Good grief, I hated this guy. Asshole.
The Legion can push daisies. Having grown up around a bunch of misogynistic old men, that shit don't fly with me. A woman with purple hair and nerdy doctor wiped out their base last time I played just for the lolz. I suppose maybe I should side with them at some point...
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Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
That is what roleplaying games are for.
CrimsonRose
Freak on a Leash
Fair enough, man. Fair enough.
ILoveSpankingMyMonkey45
First time out of the vault
I actually like Ulysses
Iprovidelittlepianos
Vault Senior Citizen
I used to think Ulysses was cool but over time I came to view him as someone who’s trying too hard to be cool. But now that people don’t think he’s cool anymore I’ve realized that he is really cool.
Jogre
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
On that Contrarian Grindset.
Tenebris
It Wandered In From the Wastes
i don't think this is unpopular opinion here
fallout 2 ruined fallout ending from the vault dwellers "somehow" knowing the exile of the protagonist and rebel just to find him and make a happy ending off screen, the overseer getting killed off screen against the player choice of not killing him, the overseer being psychopath who cares only for vault tec social experiments and not the vault
also talking deathclaws are sucks, no matter how you write them
fallout 2 ruined fallout ending from the vault dwellers "somehow" knowing the exile of the protagonist and rebel just to find him and make a happy ending off screen, the overseer getting killed off screen against the player choice of not killing him, the overseer being psychopath who cares only for vault tec social experiments and not the vault
also talking deathclaws are sucks, no matter how you write them
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RainbowPrison01
First time out of the vault
Fallout 2 > Fallout
Yossarrion
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Fallout 3 is a lot darker than people seem to remember.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
It wants to be dark, absolutely. But the execution of a lot of its darker moments just don't click for me because of how the presentation of the world building, lore, dialogue, animations and voice acting is.