What is NMA? Can someone enlighten me?

Too young to be old guard.
Too old to be new cull.
Well if I ain't a geezer and I ain't a youngster then I guess I'm a mother-figure.
Now, who's up for a spanking?

As to what NMA is, I think Tag is right when he said that we should focus more on what NMA will/should become. Right now it is often an echo chamber of bitterness and resentment of Fallout and Bethesda. We've pretty much said what needs to be said about Fallout and we're just regurgitating the same stuff over and over again just wording it differently. I'm as guilty as everyone else but I'd be more than happy to move on. Chances are that that is why older members have left. Nothing new under the sun and all that.

Personally I think we need new sub-forums for other cRPG's and post-apoc games as well as a more active and constant news-feed about those games rather than just focusing on Fallout. Cause NMA feels like it is stagnating. There's always the non-Fallout forums but they don't see enough traffic IMO and the influx of new members is rather scant and the number of old members who've moved on to other things is staggering.

NMA's an echo-chamber. Not because we're not willing to listen to outside opinion but because we've heard pretty much everything and gone over it dozens of times already and we've come to a general conclusion that most of us share to various degrees. But because of it we kind of dog-pile on criticism of this site, of the older Fallouts as well as our arguments against Bethesda, FO3 and FO4 and I fear that that is deterring new users from becoming more active. Seeing us as hostile or aggressive.

So what is NMA? A Fallout fan site that is well past its prime and glory days and is currently stagnating because it isn't really going anywhere. Just circling the drain.

For a new user it might not be as apparent so for a fresh pair of eyes NMA is pretty much a Fallout fan site that is heavily possessive about Fallout and very critical of what constitutes an "RPG" and because of that it is very vocal about its criticism towards Bethesda and their incarnation of Fallout.

Either way, NMA should strive to be more.

But until we get a more active newsfeed that isn't just limited to constant Fallout news (consider all we got to say about Bethesda's Fallout amounts to shit-flinging) and allows constant newsflow of other post-apoc/cRPG titles out there (Torment, Dead State, Pillars are a few examples) as well as sub-forums for those titles I'll enjoy circling the drain. It's a relatively enjoyable experience despite how meaningless it is considering Bethesda ain't gonna give a shit about what we say.
 
valcik said:
Any reference? Im genuinely curious.
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Maybe he didn't say it on any thread but he went into it over a PM conversation I had with him. I don't really want to quote him and post it here as it was more of a personal message so if you want it out of him it'd be best to ask him directly so I'll mix his views with a lot of my own; basically NMA used to post articles, used to be more active in its modding scene, used to actually carry some weight with its criticism and he's been going around defending NMA of the past that he used to know and when he finally returned a week or so ago, well, we all saw how bitter he was about what it had become.

Tag looks at NMA as something that has the potential to be great but is currently stuck in a loop. And it has been. Maybe NMA served more of a point with its criticism towards Bethesda back around FO3 but by FO4, even if we feel like we're justified in our criticism, it is getting old. It's like "we know..." is the response of people from the outside when we bring up how we don't like what Bethesda's doing.

It's old news. NMA is heavily critical of Bethesda and their continuation of Fallout. Yup, that's been established years ago. What else? Nothing. We're not producing anything noteworthy. The newsfeed (which was great back in the day and was what attracted me to NMA) has gone down the shitter as barely any news is posted, the forums are stagnating, I don't exactly see a whole lot of modding going on here anymore. And articles? Is anyone even writing any of those? I mean, what is NMA really 'doing' apart from either sneering at Bethesda or just being a run of the mill forum (general sub-forum)? All I can think of is a podcast and Hassknecht's PNP thingie and even those are not really well known and the latter hasn't exactly become a really concrete project yet, it is still in the planning stages.

Tag feels very strongly about this site and want it to be great but it's not like we're doing much to make it anything but an echo chamber. And of course, Tag actually likes FO4 and explained to me why and I think the reason why Tag and I will never see eye to eye about it is because we have very different core beliefs about artistic integrity and sequelization(?). Fallout as a fan-site is not really going to go anywhere but backwards. We're a Fallout fansite for 'our' kind of fandom and it is quite tiny. So it isn't going to flourish as a Fallout fan-site. And if it isn't going to flourish as a Fallout fan-site, what is it going to flourish as? Is it just going to keep fading into obscurity who's only legacy that will be remembered by people is its bitterness?

All I can say is that he, like I, have no idea what to do to make NMA relevant again. He sees the symptoms but he doesn't have a treatment and he doesn't feel like it should just rest solely on his shoulders to "save" NMA. It's a community, if we want NMA to be more than just the hate-corner then it's up to as many of us as possible to actually 'do' something to make NMA relevant again.

But like I said, you want Tag's feelings on this then go ask him directly.

0wing said:
Actually produce something worthwhile for Fallout universe with NMA's vision of the lore. But that's just little BTW coming by.
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Honestly, while I am interested in seeing a spin-off canon it isn't exactly helping the image of NMA. "We're so mad about Bethesda's Fallout that... That!... We're gonna make our own Fallout! With blackjack and hookers! Hah, take that!"

Like I said, I'm all for it, but I ain't blind. This isn't going to do anything to help the image people already have of NMA and the PnP is doubtfully going to suddenly make NMA relevant again. We'll simply be known as the hate-corner that sulks with our fanon PNP.
 
Mr Fish said:
Honestly, while I am interested in seeing a spin-off canon it isn't exactly helping the image of NMA. "We're so mad about Bethesda's Fallout that... That!... We're gonna make our own Fallout! With blackjack and hookers! Hah, take that!"
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If you wish so. Not a bad plan though. It even did kinda positive effect on some people.
Mr Fish said:
This isn't going to do anything to help the image people already have of NMA and the PnP is doubtfully going to suddenly make NMA relevant again. We'll simply be known as the hate-corner that sulks with our fanon PNP.
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It won't but at least people will be busy instead of using free speech and time to bash a dead horse 999th time. Which doesn't help much with 'hate corner' reputation cleaning. And don't drop Public Relations. :smug:
 
Mr Fish said:
I don't really want to quote him and post it here ..
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Sure, don't do that! I'm all against of anything from private conversation going public, ever. Thanks for explanation anyway!

What lured me here back then was modding section for BIS Fallout and huge deposit of downloadable goodies - tools, documentation, obscure modifications, unique articles related to first Fallout, and other true Fallout-y goodies. Frankly, I don't see anything interesting on this site for any newcomer who's curious about old Fallouts nowadays, with exception of decade old threads buried deep under nu-Fallout stuff perhaps. No wonder that majority of old Fallout fans are gone.
 
i'm tried of you whiny little sluts coming here and being all there's hope for nma i shall show you all the errors of your bethesda hating ways then something about “quality people" which isn't true everyone here is a registered sex offender who has been in jail twice kindly piss off nobody want you here if you haven't admitted to assassinate todd howard and emil to prove you're worthy of joining nma
 
i heard it was a site for real fallout fans. i like all fallouts, so i assume this place is for me
 
Rangda said:
Come on, you can be a better troll than that. At least try.
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troll? ever heard of sarcasm cause i was being dead fucking sarcastic in my original post and it was directed at mr. erich hey if you took offense that's ur problem but i'm in good mood today so i deeply apologize sorry if i hit a nerve this community needs to learn to laugh at themselves not be so serious
 
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