What Would You Have Done to Make Bethesda's Fallout 3 Better?

A true fallout 3? Van buren. Or NV.

A D.C. set fallout? I'd probably use @Radiosity's retrospective series as a jumping off point.

 

Well, I'm gonna do a fanfic rewriting Fallout 3 to be more lore friendly (with New Vegas as well).

But I would take the Enclave out and replace them with a new faction.

I would do the same with the BoS.

The BoS would be cut down to a very small faction (following on from the BoS in tactics).

The new faction is a dictatorship which offers protection for settlements.

The raiders have organised groups.

No super mutants are seen (but mentioned as part of the masters army).

The towns are in good condition, but the ones that are taken by this new faction look nicer and are bigger.

And a few other things I won't give away.

 

1.) I Would Make a Post on NMA and Capitalize the Title as if it Were a Title of a Chapter of a Book Making Sure to Not Capitalize Conjunctions.

2.) I Would Ask for the Thread to be Vatted.

3.) I Would Wake Up From the Dream of Bethesda Making Quality Games.

 

I would've made Fallout: New Vegas instead.

 

Ask @Risewild and his team to work perhaps too hard to try and combine it to a supereor game, so that when people say, "Oy, Muthfucka, you playin' that shit game Fallout 3?"
I could say,
"No, I play TTW, that way I can pretend that the game isn't an entire pile of donkey shit just waiting to get gobbled up by retards. But mostly I don't actually do anything in the Capital Regurgitation, because I can do it better in Oblivion or New Vegas."

 

Well, since i'm working on a little project that's taking all of the base ideas and concepts that we're poorly executed in Fallout 3 and doing them right, i'll just state some of the things I had in mind.

• No Enclave (As a major faction at least): "Now I don't mind including the Enclave in a Fallout game set after the events of 2, unless it's done the way it had been done in New Vegas. Like either just add former members of the Enclave that decided to reintegrate into civilian life and few settled down in D.C or add abandoned Enclave outposts that the Enclave maybe had?
• Midwestern Brotherhood (No Western Brotherhood): "You know, it never made sense to me from a strategical standpoint on why the Western Brotherhood would just send a detachment all the way to the other side of the country just to get some possible technology and super mutants, especially with weak suits of Power Armor. I think it would've made more sense if it was a squad or patrol of Midwestern Brotherhood instead, since they're much closer and I can see why they might send people to the East."
• D.C Should Be Flattened? : "A lot of people make the argument that the reason why the Capital Wasteland is so radioactive is because it's been hit the hardest during the Great War. Now that I can agree with, but if D.C is hit the hardest, then why are there still buildings standing? There should be no D.C since Fallout 1 proved that Los Angeles (I think?) has been reduced to nothing but girders and rubble since it was also nuked pretty hard."
• Better Written Reilly's Rangers: "You know, I always thought that Reilly's Rangers were a neat little idea in 3. I even thought that they should've been part of the main story."First, let's make Reilly's Rangers a much bigger mercenary force. As I call correctly, they we're sent to D.C to fend off the Super Mutants. How about instead of Super Mutants, we have some other powerful new faction instead? Reilly's Rangers has been hired to clear out this faction and it's leader by a mysterious contractor."
• Better Written Talon Company: ""I also liked the Talon Company as I thought they we're a neat little idea. Let's also make them rivals to Reilly's Rangers, they're also hired to clear out this mysterious faction by the same contractor. Now it's pretty much a little competition between the two mercenary groups to see which one can wipe out this faction first to get the big, big prize."

Well, that's pretty much all I have right now. Tbh, some of my ideas are probably mediocre.

 

Like @DirtyOldShoe mentioned. I work with the TTW team to make Fallout 3 better. But as I also always say, we might make some magic but we don't make miracles .

While we improve Fallout 3 by making it use the FNV more polished engine and add FNV things to it (ammo types, harvesteables, some original recipes to be used with the survival skill using some specific FO3 ingredients, weapon mods, iron-sights, reloading benches, doctor's bags, FO3 foods and drinks hydrate and work with the hardcore system, etc) we still don't touch the story or writing.

 

Not cancelling van buren would be a l egood start.

 

I really like these ideas. They could be tied into the main quest, both would have to be more gray and less black-and-white. Perhaps the player character is part of a separate and smaller mercenary group, for the first act he does missions and gets to know the team who then get wiped out but the player doesn't know by who. It's a bit cliche, but I think it could work.

 

Yeah, I agree. I also think that these mercenary groups would be tasked with the extermination of the faction, which would be Ashur's slave group, who underwent recent disagreements and conflict with the said mysterious contractors. Like, Ashur may have disagreed to supply the mysterious contractors with the resources he and his people have which we're very, very important for the mysterious contractors intentions. These mysterious contractors would also happen to be the Institute (Heavily Rewritten) who are a large business type faction on the East Coast that have access to advance technology (Cybernetics and possibly Plasma Weaponry).

 

Fire Todd Howard and Emil Pagliacci?

 

The problem I have with Emil is that there are good ideas there, but it's like he hands in something that barely counts as a first draft.

 

Most of his good ideas are stolen from other things, and even wit that he fails at using them properly.

 

I dunno I would't really change fallout 3 cuz i mean with out that you would't get NV but then you would of avoided fallout 4. But i dunno know really you can't really change it now. I mean its kinda done now. We have NV now and fallout 4 because of it. But you know NV was a really good game so you know I don't thin it matter that stuff.

I don't really understand people saying fallout 3 killed the franchise because of it we had NV that could easily be the best fallout game (Or wahtever you knoe pretty good). And fallout 4 could of also been a pretty good game too had some of the writing been changed or what ever.

I would criticized fo3 so much as it was beths frist got at fallout I mean they keep alot of things from the orginal was witch good compeared to fo4 where everything (Even the genre of the game has changed) So yeah for me it was also enjoyable and really got me into the serires.

The real problem I have is with fallout 4 because it like they didn't learn anything from NV or FO3 and just kinda well i geuss forgot everything they knew or something. But i dunno know I think fo4 is far away from the orginals where and I don't think that would be instatly bad but only that he does't feel that thought out really. From fo3 to fallout 4 to sift completely away from being an RPG and becoming liek a shooter hybred is really hard to explain. I guess they did what to do something different wit the game take it away from a formula but to be honest they kinda just made their own formula.

My biggest problem is the quest. They have gone such down hill from fo3. You think they would of tried to built from NV witch built from 3 i dunno it feel like stuff from te faction and fraction choise does't work all that well. Also alot of feature where taking out from NV like gambling or different ammo types. Just really really confuses me. Also the world building confuses me because its a massive map with decent detail but do they put settlements or intresting stuff ? No its just like degounes and enemys that kinda shit. I played half the game thinking that their where going to be more settlements or something but yeha no just more and more eneyms cramped in the map.

 

Cancel the game, pitch all the bad ideas, take what good ideas there were and stay true to the Fallout series without rehashing the same factions.

 

Fixed.

 

A whole lot of work there rewriting the stories and quests and adding all the missing reactivity (even if keeping the basics of what was there) and redesigning the gameplay (even if keeping the perspective). I actually had some ideas back in the day, but meh, what's the point...

It wouldn't look or sound much at all like how it does now. Basically it might be a mix of the original Fallout and Wizardry 8 if FPP was insisted on.

 

My posts are here: http://www.writiosity.uk/reconstructing-fallout-3/

Part 8 covers the mercs (new content when I rewrote the whole thing and added new stuff I didn't originally think about, or was going to write later).