Which Fallout?
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It might be a bit harder to play compared with Fallou 3 which is very forgiving in character creation. But it should not be to hard if you spend a bit time with it.
Read the Manual. F1 shows a help screen. Install the latest patches before playing. And the fanmade patches, too. And maybe the Restauration Project for Fallout 2. (killap.net, you can also get the unofficial patch there; it's included in the RP)Ranich said:
Also, don't invest points in throwing.
Don't ask how to refuel the car. It's a mystery.
That would be a question for the Tech forum, but in short - first the official patches, then the unofficial patches, and in ascending version order 
Unless the instructions for the unofficial patches say otherwise. Which they do. Reading them is a good idea.
Fallout 1 is the only really good one. Fallout 2 is basically a copy-and-paste of Fallout 1 where someone decided to fill it with out of character-content that they thought was cool (you have 1920s gangsters with tommyguns, scientologists and chinese ninjas). The interface is somewhat improved and the game is bigger, but not better. If you've played X-Com 1 and 2 (TFTD) you'll recognize the exact same pattern (same engine with slightly improved UI, bigger world and C'Thulu instead of space aliens).
I'd start with F1 anyway since the story of F2 is a continuation of F1.
Speaking of X-Com, you could say that Fallout Tactics is more similar to X-Com than Fallout 1/2, since it's not an RPG but rather a squad based tactic game with some RPG elements. It has nothing to do with the story of either F1 or F2 though. If you get the Fallout Trilogy, those are the three you get.
Fallout, in my opinion, is the best of the series, but Fallout 2 was pretty damn good. Sure, there are things in Fallout 2 that seem "un-Fallout," like the whole New Reno thing, and basically anything around San Fransisco, but doesn't make Fallout 2 bad. Fallout 2 should not be missed.
And by the way, "chinese ninjas" doesn't make sense, since ninjas are from Japanese culture, not Chinese. Kung Fu, however, is Chinese martial arts and is the word you are looking for.
And by the way, "chinese ninjas" doesn't make sense, since ninjas are from Japanese culture, not Chinese. Kung Fu, however, is Chinese martial arts and is the word you are looking for.
FO2 could basically be an FO1 expansion if it weren't a bigger game. Basically, it's more of the same, just with a new story and characters, and slightly improved game mechanics.
Basically, just play the three games from the Trilogy in chronological order. Although, you'll have to see for yourself if you ever get into FoT. I myself never did, and only limited myself to the two original games.
Basically, just play the three games from the Trilogy in chronological order. Although, you'll have to see for yourself if you ever get into FoT. I myself never did, and only limited myself to the two original games.
Agreed. It's pretty damn logical when you think about it. And like Reconite mentioned: if you play in a different order, FO 1's engine might put you off (inventory is a bitch, for instance).Ausdoerrt said:
A shame really, 'cause the way I see it (and despite all of Roshambo's hate-driven monologues), FOT feels more Falloutish than any other Fallout product that was made after the originals. It's like Jagged Alliance meets Fallout, which just can't be a bad mix. I never went nuts over FOT, but I did play it a hell of a lot. There are a couple of missions that are really awesome (for instance the one where you have to free some important people who are being held prisoner in several buildings on the map). And, don't shoot me for this, but having a sniper ghoul and a grenade throwing hairy Deathclaw in your squad, well, that just adds a whole lot of fun to this not perfect, but definitely enjoyable game.Ausdoertt said:
My 3 pennies.
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Agreed with Alec, right now working on mod of some sorts, and playing another variant of squad through main campaign. Sent-Louis made my heart to beat harder every replay - those muties are really good in cutting your ass in half with one burst of Browning M2, if you do as bravely as in classic Fallout. Feel of true combat tactic (as JA maybe) - that is.
By the way, FoT not really chained with F1 and F2. But chronolofically, it stays BETWEEN them. Through FoT was not canonical game, you can see there, that Super Mutants were stopped from getting to East Coast by Midwestern Brotherhood. And in F2 there's not much muties left on West Coast. So it would be a good reason to NOT put SM into next games of series. Sorry, some sort of offtop it is
By the way, FoT not really chained with F1 and F2. But chronolofically, it stays BETWEEN them. Through FoT was not canonical game, you can see there, that Super Mutants were stopped from getting to East Coast by Midwestern Brotherhood. And in F2 there's not much muties left on West Coast. So it would be a good reason to NOT put SM into next games of series. Sorry, some sort of offtop it is
When RP 1.3 (Fallout 2) is released I don’t recommend people playing the enhanced maps if people are playing the game for the first time. Play the game as originally intended, and then later go for the new version, and I think it is the same with many of the new critter and items mods. Vanilla all the way on the first road trip - except for the official patches.
Well, I can also confidently say that I never game a damn about any FO game after the originals. I can't say FO turn-based combat is interesting and complex enough to stand on its own as a strategy-RPG, and FOT didn't seem to bring much improvement to it either.
Wow, being a bit harsh on Fallout 2, are we?Harold said:
You say it's a copy-and-paste of Fallout 1. Do you mean engine? Graphics? If so, yes, the graphics are the same because the game was developed in a short time after the original's release. But any real gamer knows not to bash a game for its graphics. The engine is also modified and much easier to handle.
If you mean story, content, etc., I really don't see where you're coming from with this. Fallout 2 uses a completely different area, has different characters, weapons, and I don't think any of the story was copy-pasted from Fallout 1.
As for the whole New Reno fiasco, I agree, it is very out of place in the Fallout universe, but that's one thing to pick at, it doesn't make the whole game as bad as you're describing. New Reno is probably the biggest quest hub and one of the better-fleshed out areas of the game.
Scientologists and Chinese Ninjas? You mean the Hubologists and the Shi? Yes, this was pretty out of place too. It's still nothing big enough to put the rest of the game down. You've got Vault City, NCR, Modoc, Redding, Broken Hills - loads of places to explore which fit the Fallout setting just fine, in my honest opinion.
Fallout 2 is a great game in its own right (and a great Fallout game), regardless of the plot-twists and out-of-place things that it holds. It's a much larger game and offers a much longer playing time than the original. The fan support for the game is also much better, Killap went and fixed all the bugs and made the Restoration Project, adds a lot more to the game in the end.
I say, be glad it isn't Tactics, Brotherhood of Steel or Fallout 3.