Why the PV13 crowdfunding is bad

Look what BIS posted on their official facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/BlackIsleStudios

-- Update #2 -- Why you shouldn’t donate.

Something you should think about before donating or telling your friends to donate. You might be the cause of a small number of people sitting in their cramped, dark f****** shelter depressed because they’re not sitting in their cramped, dark f****** for real because the world didn’t really end.

Got that? Some people won’t be happy you’re helping.

So, if you have no compassion for those apocaleptics who want it all to come down around our ears (but not theirs), then you probably shouldn’t put in a contribution. But if those people, sitting in their ivory dungeons, annoy the hell out of you with their barrels of water, stacks of freeze dried, and smug attitudes, then maybe you should just empty the bank account on this project. Just to spite them.

Create some apoplectic apocaleptics. (Yeah, try saying it out loud.)

http://www.blackisle.com/
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I just dunno how to react to this.
 
I find it funny how they are trying to deflect the negative remarks and turn it into more money.
 
The money is going up and down. I last saw it at 2900 then it dropped to 2600 when some slow people obviously went '.............hang on a minute.' Now its back at 2900 :/

Third Update will be penned by Charlie Sheen.

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Is it even possible? I mean, it's not a Kickstarter, you can't just take your money back after you have already donated.
 
Money donated is gone. If the counter goes up and down that's likely an error on the website's end.

Raised $2,945
 
Austin Craig · Cochise College
Caen has done pretty well.. after the disaster that Fargo left of -119 Million they are now debt free. Thats pretty amazing stuff. Fargo has a good name b/c he published fallout but he ran the company into the ground.
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I am speechless...
 
SumsoluS said:
Austin Craig · Cochise College
Caen has done pretty well.. after the disaster that Fargo left of -119 Million they are now debt free. Thats pretty amazing stuff. Fargo has a good name b/c he published fallout but he ran the company into the ground.
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I am speechless...
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Me too. I literally cannot speak after that comment. Only through type can I communicate. I need a doctor.
 
Haha. That defense was popular with Interplay investors for a while to show Herve as a savvy businessman. And to be fair, it is impressive that he and Interplay are still around, but I can't point to any decision/project he ran that was a *good* idea. Canning Van Buren for BoS 2, huh?

Fargo did leave the company in debt. Lots of reasons for that, mainly focusing on PC gaming too long, and an obsession with "cinematic" gaming that infected the entire industry. Honestly the company should've just been allowed to sink at that point, rather than limping along as a corpse.

inXile is doing much better than Interplay, though.
 
Brother None said:
Haha. That defense was popular with Interplay investors for a while to show Herve as a savvy businessman. And to be fair, it is impressive that he and Interplay are still around, but I can't point to any decision/project he ran that was a *good* idea. Canning Van Buren for BoS 2, huh?

Fargo did leave the company in debt. Lots of reasons for that, mainly focusing on PC gaming too long, and an obsession with "cinematic" gaming that infected the entire industry. Honestly the company should've just been allowed to sink at that point, rather than limping along as a corpse.

inXile is doing much better than Interplay, though.
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So it really is Fargo's fault? What actually happened that caused interplay to sink like that anyways?
 
I think Fargo was put off by the fact that entire game budgets were going to intro CGIs and not actual games. I have a very limited understanding of all this so don't quote me on it.
 
AtomBomb said:
So it really is Fargo's fault? What actually happened that caused interplay to sink like that anyways?
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Well, Interplay was in a bad way and Fargo was the dude helming it, so hard to say it wasn't his fault. It wasn't a problem of poor quality games tho' (for the most part), so from a consumer standpoint it's hard to blame Fargo, it was more a question of underestimating consoles and allowing gaming budgets to bloat too much. I don't know the details, though, nor does Austin Craig, but I don't think you can create much of an argument that Fargo is blameless. Or much of an argument that "Caen has done pretty well", honestly.
 
Sim of A Sim Of A Sim ...

Sim Of A Sim Of A Sim ...



Well, they gave themselves a whole year to sell, something, not clear what, but on this day it looks like ...

some form of miss direction, or mystic direction! :o


What post apoc' Tarot cards are they laying down?

What is the concept to focus on, the 'pitch' or the product?

Sim Junktown?

Sim Junktown MMO?

Sim Farm mashed with resourse management tech trees and strategy / operational coMbat?

No, this inducement, with all the cheek of side show 3 card Monty, hand waves about a dream of a dream.


In some philosophies the idea, the ideal, is 'purer' than reality, and this imagined, imaginary MMO/whatever, the first round is about design haggling on Interplay / Black Isle forums.

So maybe this is Sim Game Design.

Even with my failed business sense, one might think that 10 or 20 dollars down, NOW, might mean 10 or 20 dollars off, IF a product shipped / down loaded.

No, this concept is too pure to promise any 'dirty' material quid pro quo.

Don't focus on the finished product. Mere clutter.

Ignore the man amassing capital behind the curtain!

Breath the either and ride the moon beam!

The media is the message, and the game it self, this game played, this Kool Aide drunk, may be @ BI forums!

Believe in believing to believe!

Come one, come all, step right up, crawl out of your 'ivory' basements,

and pay to play Sim Game Design at Black Isle Z!






4too
 
When you put it that way, it almost sounds like it could be worth $20 to the right sort, to the Kiluses or the TwinkieGorillas of old. I doubt very much that they could ban someone without the possibility of repercussions when access to their forum is what they're taking your money for.
 
I have trouble realizing if in 4too's presence I am beholding a genius or a mad man.
 
It is a shame that people are giving them over $3,000. I mean if you want to throw away your money at least give it to a charity or something. Black Isle are still dead. I hope anyone left there who has any talent leaves.
 
Born To Lose

Born To Lose




mobucks and valcik, thanks for the support.



mobucks said:
... mad man.
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I Google "mad man" and Mad Men is at the top.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mad...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Far behind the viewing curve, so only know indirectly.

Ad men, marketing ...

Where are Black Isle Z's market-eers?

Not unknown for web sites to request a fee to participate.

This subscription to BI Z forums could have been an invitation.

Maybe I don't comprehend their communication code / cues, so I only wonder at their true intentions.

The Face Book advisarial attitude, internet tough talk?

Push for exclusive, select, limited, elite. L33T, SYCOPHANTS?

By conscious effort are they fabriacting an echo chamber?

Do they plan to sell the proposed game as well as this, or is it all a parody too dry a humor for my tastes?

Assuming some link to any consumer or comedic reality,

how can the 'living dead' at Black Isle Z fumble at selling themselves, predestination?

Zombies get no love? Born to lose. :(

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvSQBSknBfk[/youtube]
As we wander, into the fade out, of yet another fleeting event horizon. The man in black! ;)




4too
 
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