Why We Love… Harold And Bob

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A Dealspwn editorial deals with Harold, Fallout's iconic character. A good read if you only played Fallout 3 and only know him from that.<blockquote>Yeah. That’s exactly who we mean. But what many of you trigger-happy newcomers don’t know is that poor old Harold is one of the longest-running recurring characters in Fallout history. His tragic backstory underpins many of the major events in the postapocalyptic canon- and it’s high time we gave him his dues. Many of you ripped out his heart beneath Oasis… but it turns out that Harold has the biggest damn heart in the entire Wasteland.

Before Bob
As a young child, Harold was raised by a goddess-like supercomputer deep within Vault 29. He survived the bombs and was eventually selected for a suicide run to the surface in order to terrify the other kids into servitude, but escaped to keep the nursery of uncontiminated children safe and secret. Harold thrived in the wasteland, becoming a successful trader and major player in The Hub; but frustrated by the constant mutant attacks on his caravans and friends, he opted to set out on a quest to make the world a safer place. This selfless act started him down the road to becoming one of the only true philanthropists that the Fallout universe ever had… and to his eventual martyrdom.</blockquote>Spotted on GameBanshee.
 
This is a nice, albeit brief, story of one of my favorite characters in Fallout.

I'm surprised they didn't mention more of his role in F1/2.
 
.Pixote. said:
TheRatKing said:
I'm surprised they didn't mention more of his role in F1/2.
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Fallout 1 and 2 never existed...ask any 16 year old.
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It angers me to no end when people refer to Fallout 3 as "the first Fallout".

"Did you play the first Fallout? No? You should, Bethesda did an awesome job!"...

"You don't have to play the first Fallout to play New Vegas"...

Yes, these are real. :(
 
In the beginning, I thought it will be some intelligent thoughts about Harold, his beeing and whatever else.

Now it reads to me more like someone found the Vault page about Harold and wrote together what's written there in much more detail.
 
Elven6 said:
.Pixote. said:
TheRatKing said:
I'm surprised they didn't mention more of his role in F1/2.
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Fallout 1 and 2 never existed...ask any 16 year old.
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It angers me to no end when people refer to Fallout 3 as "the first Fallout".

"Did you play the first Fallout? No? You should, Bethesda did an awesome job!"...

"You don't have to play the first Fallout to play New Vegas"...

Yes, these are real. :(
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Well, let's be honest here for a sec. I mean, it annoys me as well, just like the next guy who played F1 and 2, but can you really blame a younger gamer that just started playing games on his 360 for not playing a PC game that's 14 years old and is visually unappealing by today's standards? More than that, here's a question - would you play Wasteland for many hours today? I doubt it. I wouldn't. It's just too dated even for my retro-gaming loving taste. And I'm quite sure that this is what F1 might be to young gamers of today.

Besides, current gen gamers should be blamed for buying shit like Halo, CoD and Gears by the millions, not for a lack of knowledge on a game that was made when they were like 3-4 years old.
 
Vik said:
Well, let's be honest here for a sec. I mean, it annoys me as well, just like the next guy who played F1 and 2, but can you really blame a younger gamer that just started playing games on his 360 for not playing a PC game that's 14 years old and is visually unappealing by today's standards?
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Maybe not, but you sure can blame him for not understanding that the huge number on the cover of the game means that it is the third game in the series.
 
But do people really deny that? I mean, I'm sure everybody who played F3 at some point figured out that the number in the title actually means something. I'm also sure that many compare NV to F3 because they haven't played F1/2, not because they all hate the first two games.
 
Fer Frith's sake, guys, is this worth a discussion? People say "the first one" because it's an easy shorthand to refer to the first title they and many like them played, not because they actually believe it's the first one. Yes, that habit is a bit irksome but it's also understandable.

Man we're an argumentative lot.

(wouldn't have it any other way)
 
Heh. I remember winning a $5 bet a few years ago concerning the prince of persia games.

He insisted that the sands of time was the first in the series. I was :o

When I later proved it to him, he refused to pay up because he had implied (implicitly) that it was the first on the playstation. So maybe I didn't win? I still feel cheated!
 
Tangential Synchronicity

Tangential Synchronicity


Vik said:
... here's a question - would you play Wasteland for many hours today? ...
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Yes.

Have a PC booted beside the Mac, as I text.

Wasteland in Dos-Box window.

Player rolled character "JeNe SaisQuoi" (condensed by 11 space dos into "Jene SaisQu") buffing up her Gambling skill at the Desert Nomads camp.

Too much unnecessary detail?

Well, playing today,

Wasteland,

yes indeed.




4too
 
Notice the "many hours" part. I didn't say it's impossible.

Per said:
Vik said:
More than that, here's a question - would you play Wasteland for many hours today? I doubt it. I wouldn't.
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Banned
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Oh come on bro, I was kidding. I still play in on my Apple 2 every day for 3 hours straight before going to bed.
 
Sleep Aide Of The Ancients

Sleep Aide Of The Ancients



Vik said:
... I still play in on my Apple 2 every day for 3 hours straight before going to bed.
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Trying to roll that perfect 'Gang Of Four'?

Space bar ... space bar ... space bar ... space ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


4too
 
I noticed that some of the background they included in there was from Van Buren, no wonder I didn't remember it. Then again, I'd forgotten that he was originally a merchant from The Hub.

Vik said:
More than that, here's a question - would you play Wasteland for many hours today? I doubt it. I wouldn't. It's just too dated even for my retro-gaming loving taste. And I'm quite sure that this is what F1 might be to young gamers of today.
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Fallout 1&2 != Wasteland. Fallout 1&2's main problem is their inventory being clunky, partly due to a lack of mouse wheel support. The graphics may be 8-bit but they are functional and lack the psychedelic pallet limitations of Wasteland.

Wasteland is much less intuitive, truly ugly, and requires books in order to get the dialog. The latter of which was DRM and has since been subverted by technology. It is also the only reason why I haven't played more than a few minutes of Wasteland. Even if it didn't have the separate dialog book I could understand people being repulsed by it's graphics and frustrated by it's interface, just like many other DOS games.
 
Sure, the graphics are functional, but that may not be enough for a new gamer, so I don't see much point in complaining why some talk like F3 is the first game in the series, because for them it is.

On that note, I actually feel like trying Wasteland again. See how far I'll get.
 
Vik said:
Sure, the graphics are functional, but that may not be enough for a new gamer, so I don't see much point in complaining why some talk like F3 is the first game in the series, because for them it is.
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Modern gamers still play SNES games and the GBA wasn't very long ago. I'm pretty sure that Fallout is on at least a comparable level graphically.
 
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