Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILERS*

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Mapex

It Wandered In From the Wastes
I finally made it to Vegas after reaching all of the checkpoints for the main storyline (Primm, Nipton, Novac, Boulder City). I just wanted to see the Strip because it seemed to be the most happening place in the game.

For those who have reached the Strip:
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Is it just me, or does it seem small? I haven't yet entered any casinos except the Lucky 38, so I may not have enough experience to judge properly, but already I feel like I hyped up New Vegas to be something it totally is not. Two zones with a handful of casinos and other sights seem like a tiny amount of content for what is the focal point of this entire game.
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For those who know everything about Mr. House (LAST WARNING MASSIVE GOD DAMN SPOILERS):
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I was level 12 when I reached Mr. House. Still, I had an ample amount of firepower and combat ability as well as high Science skill. After speaking to him (and failing to save my game after the conversation :/) I noticed a terminal to my left.

I hacked the terminal with ease and unlocked the door to the antechamber and started getting shot at by all the bots. I then went into the room and hacked the next terminal with ease and took an elevator to a catwalk.

I have found Mr. House. He's a 261 year old human trapped in a chamber that is keeping him alive for so long. Lonely bastard.

Memories of the Master aside, is it just me or is Mr. House way too easy to reach and kill? The only difficulty would have been to get downstairs to the Strip, where Boone and ED-E could have helped me dispatch all the guards with ease.

I don't mind the terminal requiring lower than 100 Science to hack because non-Science people need to hack it as well if they want to off the guy, but there were literally no defenses outside of running past the security bots to the hacking terminals. The terminal that unlocks his sealed chamber also required nothing special to activate.
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For those who have reached the Strip:
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[spoiler:94d4f54cb5]Yeah I guess it's kind of small. Same deal as with New Reno though - three main groups plus a bunch of other stuff to do. I think if they made it any bigger, the game would just lag to death. It's already pretty bad as it is.

Also I don't think it's the focal point of the game. Technically the Dam (and with it control of the area) is. It's one of those cases where something was so over-advertized pre-release that it feels underwhelming. Vegas is fun, just isn't like what you saw in the commercials.[/spoiler:94d4f54cb5]
 
[spoiler:0d573323d6]I don't like the Strip very much. It's pretty and somewhat interesting but as the focal point of the game, it fails. I like the rest of the map though, so that's good enough for me.

Mr. House is not the last boss so I didn't mind how easy he was to take down (which I did as well.) His appearance was incredible! I thought that was amazing design by Obsidian. Totally creepy, pitiful, and awe-inspiring.

If you actually advance in the main quest you can kill him without being attacked, btw.[/spoiler:0d573323d6]
 
OK, I finished exploring most of the Vegas and now I have to agree with you more on that it's a bit disappointing. It's especially so since it's obvious how unfinished The Tops is, with all those unaccessible doors and possibly quests. It just feels like there should've been more to it.
 
If you look at the Vegas as a whole, with Freeside and Westside and Northside, it's huge for F3-standards, and feels okay. However all these walls which separate it into cells make it to look smaller.

[spoiler:c2272f8e0a]Also there's an undercity, which adds a bit too[/spoiler:c2272f8e0a]

All in all, I've found it not too big, but big enough for my taste. It's already a huge chunk of the world map :).
 
Re: Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILE

Mapex said:
For those who know everything about Mr. House (LAST WARNING MASSIVE GOD DAMN SPOILERS):
[spoiler:4d022b1233]
I was level 12 when I reached Mr. House. Still, I had an ample amount of firepower and combat ability as well as high Science skill. After speaking to him (and failing to save my game after the conversation :/) I noticed a terminal to my left.

I hacked the terminal with ease and unlocked the door to the antechamber and started getting shot at by all the bots. I then went into the room and hacked the next terminal with ease and took an elevator to a catwalk.

I have found Mr. House. He's a 261 year old human trapped in a chamber that is keeping him alive for so long. Lonely bastard.

Memories of the Master aside, is it just me or is Mr. House way too easy to reach and kill? The only difficulty would have been to get downstairs to the Strip, where Boone and ED-E could have helped me dispatch all the guards with ease.

I don't mind the terminal requiring lower than 100 Science to hack because non-Science people need to hack it as well if they want to off the guy, but there were literally no defenses outside of running past the security bots to the hacking terminals. The terminal that unlocks his sealed chamber also required nothing special to activate.[/spoiler:4d022b1233]
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[spoiler:4d022b1233]Actually, non-science people don't need to hack it at all. There are two Lucky 38 VIP cards in the world that you can use to access the place. There are always other ways.

His design is pretty cool. I didn't kill him, I just shut down his cerebral interface, basically dooming him to live on inside his own skull. It seemed more apropos after he asked me to kill the Brotherhood. Kind of pissed me off, that mission.[/spoiler:4d022b1233]
 
Well:
[spoiler:b6745ef3aa]Killed him at level 12? I killed him at level 21!

Well, first I killed Mister House, then, returned to my saved game, because I lost karma, so I only deactivated his interface, thinking that my karma loss would be cancelled. However, I lost karma the same way, so I continued the game with Yes Man now running New Vegas.

However, the NCR liked Mr. House, because he played by the rules. So when I finished him, the quest queue showed danger with the NCR. Anyway, I also though to side Caesar too, since they were awesome with that crazy slavery thing.

Very complicated game this one, much more sophisticated than F3.[/spoiler:b6745ef3aa]
 
Re: Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILE

Brother None said:
[spoiler:f130e238ba]Actually, non-science people don't need to hack it at all. There are two Lucky 38 VIP cards in the world that you can use to access the place. There are always other ways.

His design is pretty cool. I didn't kill him, I just shut down his cerebral interface, basically dooming him to live on inside his own skull. It seemed more apropos after he asked me to kill the Brotherhood. Kind of pissed me off, that mission.[/spoiler:f130e238ba]
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Uff O.O I didnt know you could be THAT mean ... thats pretty much worse then geting killed.
 
Re: Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILE

Crni Vuk said:
Brother None said:
[spoiler:fba5174faa]Actually, non-science people don't need to hack it at all. There are two Lucky 38 VIP cards in the world that you can use to access the place. There are always other ways.

His design is pretty cool. I didn't kill him, I just shut down his cerebral interface, basically dooming him to live on inside his own skull. It seemed more apropos after he asked me to kill the Brotherhood. Kind of pissed me off, that mission.[/spoiler:fba5174faa]
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Uff O.O I didnt know you could be THAT mean ... thats pretty much worse then geting killed.
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I did that as well. Maybe if I kill him my karma will increase?
 
[spoiler:3c5f9a5ce8]Killing Mr. House is a joke. You just click 3 terminals and he's done for.
Finished the game two times already. 1 - Helped House
2 - Got Yes Man and finished everyone. Powered the bunker beneath the legion's HQ and destroyed them. Threw that NCR general off the Dam..like a boss. [/spoiler:3c5f9a5ce8]
 
[spoiler:0c8588a803]Well, the security bots are pretty tough, tbh. I guess given that the game is RT you can run through. It'd be better design if that terminal REQUIRED the passcard. But I guess all terminals in the game are hackable. It's just kinda weird that's not the same for locked doors.[/spoiler:0c8588a803]
 
Re: Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILE

Crni Vuk said:
Brother None said:
[spoiler:4b17006fea]Actually, non-science people don't need to hack it at all. There are two Lucky 38 VIP cards in the world that you can use to access the place. There are always other ways.

His design is pretty cool. I didn't kill him, I just shut down his cerebral interface, basically dooming him to live on inside his own skull. It seemed more apropos after he asked me to kill the Brotherhood. Kind of pissed me off, that mission.[/spoiler:4b17006fea]
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Uff O.O I didnt know you could be THAT mean ... thats pretty much worse then geting killed.
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That's pretty much how he responds to it.
 
Re: Your Thoughts: Strip, Mr. House *WARNING: MASSIVE SPOILE

Brother None said:
Mapex said:
For those who know everything about Mr. House (LAST WARNING MASSIVE GOD DAMN SPOILERS):
[spoiler:a9496e9d94]
I was level 12 when I reached Mr. House. Still, I had an ample amount of firepower and combat ability as well as high Science skill. After speaking to him (and failing to save my game after the conversation :/) I noticed a terminal to my left.

I hacked the terminal with ease and unlocked the door to the antechamber and started getting shot at by all the bots. I then went into the room and hacked the next terminal with ease and took an elevator to a catwalk.

I have found Mr. House. He's a 261 year old human trapped in a chamber that is keeping him alive for so long. Lonely bastard.

Memories of the Master aside, is it just me or is Mr. House way too easy to reach and kill? The only difficulty would have been to get downstairs to the Strip, where Boone and ED-E could have helped me dispatch all the guards with ease.

I don't mind the terminal requiring lower than 100 Science to hack because non-Science people need to hack it as well if they want to off the guy, but there were literally no defenses outside of running past the security bots to the hacking terminals. The terminal that unlocks his sealed chamber also required nothing special to activate.[/spoiler:a9496e9d94]
Click to expand...

[spoiler:a9496e9d94]Actually, non-science people don't need to hack it at all. There are two Lucky 38 VIP cards in the world that you can use to access the place. There are always other ways.

His design is pretty cool. I didn't kill him, I just shut down his cerebral interface, basically dooming him to live on inside his own skull. It seemed more apropos after he asked me to kill the Brotherhood. Kind of pissed me off, that mission.[/spoiler:a9496e9d94]
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[spoiler:a9496e9d94] I think my game is bugged, I didn't need the override key or a science check to open the door on all 3 of my playthroughs, I thought it was stupid that he didn't have a password on his door. Strange.[/spoiler:a9496e9d94]
 
Yeah, there are like 4 places where you can bypass the security.

[spoiler:92d95266e5]The Camp Golf Resort, New Vegas Steel, H&H Tool Factory and errr... I forget the last one[/spoiler:92d95266e5]
 
Mmm, my game all I did was open the terminal to open the wall and then to unlock the elevator. Once you kill Mr. House, the securitrons are friendly again.
 
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