Ze Führer is taking ower US! - Turning Point -

Dopemine Cleric said:
Brother None said:
Dopemine Cleric said:
Number 2. Post WW2 with the nazi's as the victors would actually create a eutopia, after we all we're killed. No more political enemies + the economic superpower of the german propoganda machine + All mentally ill, genetically inferior, and any race that might segregate the people in any way, are eliminated = Years of prosperity for those who survived.

Just remember, Hitler wasn't Satan, or a racist, or even a Nazi... He was a hardcore utilitarian politician to the core. Solving problems with a "Final Solution"

Not really. Stalin was a utilitarian, Hitler was just batshit insane.

In fact, National-Socialism as a political ideology is inherently self-destructive. It leans on its political apparat and army production for a kind of forced economic growth, and to do that it needs either war or civil strife. Nazism could never have provided years of prosperity, it was inherently flawed.


I'm sure the economics would have shifted toward other areas after the nazi's had taken over, though to do so they would have had to exterminate billions of people to do so, or change the doctrine given in the propaganda machine. What is left after that conflict is what inherently would cause a well.. i guess you can say "Post Apocalyptic Eutopia" as an odd title for it. A one government world of citizens with inherently no genetic flaws or social differences "Race itself no longer exists", And loads of technological advances from the prior conflicts. That is "IF" Hitlers ideologies we're fufilled. Not counting technicalities on why those ideologies would be improbable. I wasn't refering to the ending result government baring resemblance to Socialism, but more or less the implicated effects of the event of a Nazi takeover, post-strife.

Someone has obviously never been to China. :lol:
 
The craziest thing is though, is that some scientists of that time believed that eugenics was the way to bring about human supremacy, not realizing that it would stagnate the gene pool in the process.

If you put a critical eye to his process, he was doing exactly what science of the day dictated was needed to create a super race that he believed the Germans were.

However as was mentioned before, he's batshiet insane and later scientists realized the havoc that would come of eugenics (aside from the obvious human casualties) to the gene pool and smartened up quite a bit in that regard.

Everything he did was coldly calculated, with the precision of a machine and the ruthlessness of a madman, inspired by the science and myths of the time to try and achieve victory, all from one lowly house painter...
 
Why I think eugenics is a good idea.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=1XALVTzMOeQ[/youtube]








Why I think eugenics is a bad idea

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=u9rWFZesV8s[/youtube]





Someone has obviously never been to China.


China during "The Great Leap Foward" and the "Cultural Revolution", which is what I'm sure your refering to, and the hybrid communist and capitalist state China has turned into, is far from what the outcome of a Nazi take over would have been. Eugenics, and Hitlers ideas of perfection, where nowhere in "The little red-cook book for communist china". Fact is, china has always been overshadowed by the Soviet Union and the United States during the 20th century. Also, error one of Mao's plan was the attempted elimination of China's cultural traditions and history to perfect it into a communist state. Hitler, embraced the traditions of the people he governed. So from the very start, Hitler rallied his people, Mao attacked his. Hitler also was building his government toward a Monarchistic Republic "Closest example would be the U.K. from the 1800's - 1930's". Mao was constructing a Communist Dictatorship. The results are different.
 
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