Attitudes Towards Communism

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by DwayneGAnd, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Eshanas

    Eshanas Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 6, 2016
    Political correctness exists everywhere, from Pinochet's Chile to Mussolini Italy to Thatcher's UK and Mao's China. It simply speech that is politically okay. It doesn't automatically entail "We can't do sunspot research" for everyone, it just means "This doesn't fly because it goes against our ingrained ideals". Political Correctness would ALWAYS exist. It wouldn't be PC to demand Washington to become King, or for George III to abdicate. Nothing more, nothing less. A 'free speech' state defense doesn't work because we already have limits on Free speech - fire in a theatre, death threats against the president, libel or slander laws. PC now ontop of that is more often than not just a way to offer updates to common lexicon (the fading out of slurs, the rising of uncommon labels) and little else.
  2. Unorthodox Outlander

    Unorthodox Outlander It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Aug 28, 2017
    In this case I suppose it would not simply be a matter of political correctness, but enforced political correctness (i.e. facing legal consequences or being ostracized simply for going against the political orthodoxy, such as how contradicting various feminist "leaders" is a quick way to get yourself bombarded by sudden accusations of sexism and any other unflattering claims that can be made unless/until you submit/comform to their political orthodoxy; older examples would be the rampant Macarthyism that was prevalent throughout the US in the '50s or the French "Reign of Terror" from 1793-94 enacted against anybody perceived to be an enemy/opponent of the revolution). In some cases having a different opinion isn't a question; you either think, speak, and act in a specific way or you're suddenly associated with less savory groups (regardless if you're actually a "Nazi", "Fascist", or otherwise, to use a few rather common examples).

    Honestly the whole thing is disturbingly similar to 1984's concepts of "thoughtcrime," though how close it gets might be debatable.
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  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Except, that I am not necessarily talking about laws governing how a civiliced society should function. It goes without a saying, that you shouldn't stand in a crowd and shouting nonsense like, there is a bomb! Or that you should not deliberalty put people in harm.

    However, what we see today is an increase in people that actually demand cencorship and that feel actually 'alright' if free speech as it is now, would be limited so some groups are less offended.

    I even had recently a case where it affected a workmate. To give you a bit of background, my live was once threatened by Neonazis, so I am not really a friend of them or their ideology and I pretty much know what racism can do.

    In my job I supervice children and we have some pretty troublesome individuals in our groups, there is quite often violence, and the school I work at has issues with drugs and all sorts of shit, like abbused and neglected children and teenagers for example

    So yeah, we often have conversations with our pupils when it comes to discipline, descency, respect and pretty much the 'basics' that everyone should understand. So my workmate talked to 4-5 children educating them about respect, since some of them bullied a child and she tried to explain why that was wrong. Well one of them had trouble to understand why his behaviour in particular was wrong. So, after trying to explain it, at some point she told him in her frustration, that if he doesn't keep the boy alone, she will wash his head till he's pale. He was black. And suddenly in his anger, he rushes out and starts telling a teacher that we're all racists. Said teacher who strange enough don't seem to be bothered much about the drug and viollence problem, feel the need to have a discussion with my workmate and suddenly it's about 'racism'.

    Was the comment of my workmate wrong? Yeah. Was it racism? No. People confuse subjects here and become offended about the most trivial things while ignoring the elephant in the room. Political Correctness as how it is practised today, is ignoring context. I told the school to start an official investigation if they felt that there was any kind of 'racism' here, which I would have welcomed. But you know what? No one did anything. And why don't they? Because no one wants to stir up to much shit.