Cyberpunk 2077

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Xellos, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    So..there are some of stuff from the PnP rpg that will not be implemented, namely stats like empathy, attractiveness, body type, luck, Movement allowance (MA). Also classes that CDPR consider 'too difficult' to implement as player background are scrapped, actually you could only play as three class out of all avalaible classes in original game. Not hyped at all and worried a bit, but i hope they could nail it with the next gameplay presentation. Combined that with the focus of voiced protagonist, i honestly could only hope it will turn good. Well at least CDPR could deliver the story and worldbuilding aspect, afterall Role playing and gameplay mechanic is not really their strongest stuff.

    And..i dont know why some people are concerned with simple stuff like third person perspective when there is more pressing concern regarding the roleplaying aspect of the game.
     
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  2. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Orderite of Chaos Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    This needs to be added at once. It was Mother 3 before Codex used it.
     
  3. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    Oh it should be more somber than that, I never been so crushed like this ever since deus ex MD publisher fiasco.
    There is no damn reason why CDPR would remove stats like empathy and body type. Especially the former, being the integral part of why cyberpsychosis rampant in the night city and the fact that is basically one of stats for persuasive attribute. And lo behold my rage will be more growing when they would announce that convincing someone in this game would be like picking perk for axii sign. lol and big nope and Nyope.

    For those who dont know, Attractiveness and Empathy are when charisma stat from fallout is divided by two into separate physical and mental attribute for how persuasive you could be. Both strength and endurance from fallout are merged into one stat called body type, while also a skill on its own that derive from body type stat. Movement allowance is basically endurance and agility merged together, but only for how fast and long when you run. Because relfex or 'vats' is governed by..well Reflex stat. Luck stat is luck stat.
     
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  4. Ediros

    Ediros A Smooth-Skin

    Feb 4, 2016
    To me voiced protagonist is the worst offender. After shitout 4 and Mass effect, I am tired of turning games into movies.

    It worked with witcher because Geralt Has got a backstory and character. In an RPG, voiced protagonist kills IT for me.
     
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  5. cronicler

    cronicler Lurksalot

    May 31, 2006
    This just pooped up in my feeds;



    Background info;
    YY is quite a decent Youtuber that specializes on modern RPGs and general publisher fuck-ups related to them and I do trust his reporting (if not his tastes, completely); the guy has been putting out decent and accurate pieces since I first discovered him.
     
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  6. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander Mildly Dipped

    Dec 6, 2016
    YoungYea? Oh, he got some haters here

    But I like him. I´ll watch later.
     
  7. Norzan

    Norzan Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Apr 7, 2017
    Yeah, this is my biggest issue with the game so far. To me it's counter intuitive to give the player the ability to give a character a backstory, but then give that character an in-universe voice. One of the things i like to do when i can give a backstory to my character is imagine his/her voice in my head.

    I'm honestly fine with the first person perspective though. Heard some people complaining about that.
     
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  8. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Voiced protagonists can be done well. I'd prefer a silent one, but eh, we'll see.
    So how many petitions are there to tell CDPR to have Carpenter Brut and Perturbator write the soundtrack to Cyberpunk 2077?
     
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  9. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    They've split this stat into generic Strength and Constitution.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I juste hate, hate, hate, HATE first person forced on to me in RPGs ...
     
  11. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    hope there will be mod for that, its quite easy to fix unlike other problem like Voiced protag and missing stats

    True, seem they just use the skills that derived from it. I dont know why, seem its just wasted work when the existing system just work nicely. Body type is also about your body ability to whistand more damage and pain, maybe this could be mitigated by damage resistant replaced by increased hitpoint. Let's see how that turned out.
     
  12. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
    From what I heard of the gameplay, it sounds alot like Deus Ex.
     
  13. eissa

    eissa Gall óGlaigh Lady of War

    Jan 7, 2016
    The first one or modern sequel?
     
  14. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Jan 3, 2018
    Both I guess.
    Cyberpunk2077 might end up being a cyberpunk immersive sim.
     
  15. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    I'm hoping Cyberpunk 2077 plays a lot like a modern version of OG Deus Ex if it is a pure first person RPG.

    Skill points being vital to gameplay (i.e only being able to fire a gun accurately with points placed in the gun skill etc.), plenty of choice in approaching any scenario etc.
     
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  16. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Call me an idiot, but then it doesn't really qualify as an RPG for me. Or well, more like a shooter with light RPG elements.

    Doesn't mean it still can't be a good game.
     
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  17. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    I'd argue that Human Revolution is more deserving of the shooter with RPG elements label than the original Deus Ex. It's rather light on reliance on skill point investment for performing certain actions as most of the points gained unlock perks rather than new skill levels.

    The original is still a shooter but it is more skill dependent (though somewhat forgiving than say System Shock 2) that I feel that it does get away from that label to a greater extent than HR. The marked improvement from levelling up Rifles from Untrained to Master level is quite impressive, especially when it turns a shotgun into a pellet spewing sniper rifle that centres on a single target.
     
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  18. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA Mildly Dipped

    Oct 26, 2016
    Sounds good; I'm sold.
     
  19. CT Phipps

    CT Phipps Half-way Through My Half-life

    Sep 17, 2016
    Well if it's more like Cyberpunk Skyrim than I'm sold.

    :D
     
  20. Norzan

    Norzan Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Apr 7, 2017
    If even has just barebones RPG elements, then it's not Cyberpunk Skyrim.
     
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