Fallout 4's weapons lacking variety?

R.Graves said:
bowling ball launchers? I get the feeling that if I hadn't stopped playing at level 13 Bethesda may have ended up like initech.

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There's a DLC modification which makes the fat-man shoot bowling balls.

Oh, and if you have the 2 shot mod, it shoot s 2 balls which can be picked up...So becuase there's no durability for guns, you have a weapon with UNLIMITED AMMO and stupid high damage.
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
There's a DLC modification which makes the fat-man shoot bowling balls.

Oh, and if you have the 2 shot mod, it shoot s 2 balls which can be picked up...So becuase there's no durability for guns, you have a weapon with UNLIMITED AMMO and stupid high damage.
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Here's the combat shotgun:

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Here's the combat rifle:

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Apparently all you need to do is swap out one or two parts and you can have any gun fire any calibre of bullets! Why have different gun designs when one is so versatile?

Bethesda are right lazy bastards.
 
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Prone Squanderer said:
Here's the combat shotgun:

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Here's the combat rifle:

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Apparently all you need to do is swap out one or two parts and you can have any gun fire any calibre of bullets! Why have different gun designs when one is so versatile?

Bethesda are right lazy bastards.
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Wow...

And should I question why its missing a stock?
 
Prone Squanderer said:
Here's the combat shotgun:

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Here's the combat rifle:

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Apparently all you need to do is swap out one or two parts and you can have any gun fire any calibre of bullets! Why have different gun designs when one is so versatile?

Bethesda are right lazy bastards.
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This is why I think New Vegas has the best weapons in the series.

They have so much variety between weapons and the developers actually payed close attention to what weapons people could use like Unarmed and Melee.

Fallout 4 barely has like what, 4 Unarmed weapons?

I doubt Fallout 4 also has near 10 Melee Weapons in the base game alone.
 
AlphaSlayerZX said:
This is why I think New Vegas has the best weapons in the series.

They have so much variety between weapons and the developers actually payed close attention to what weapons people could use like Unarmed and Melee.

Fallout 4 barely has like what, 4 Unarmed weapons?

I doubt Fallout 4 also has near 10 Melee Weapons in the base game alone.
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According to the wiki there's 4 Unarmed weapons and 12 Melee in the base game, not including uniques.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_weapons

EDIT: I forgot to count the bladed weapons in, which there are 9 of.
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Designs and such aside, does anyone find the lack of weapons annoying?
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nhé. More then a year that I don´t play this game, so I don´t care.

It's not as if Bethesda knew how to make powder guns anyway. They even bothered to at least try to adapt the weapons from the previous games (a Fallout without a .223 / 5.56mm pistol?)
 
All bethesda designs look like they were drawn by a ten year old, who spent his life listening to an uncle with the skills of the same level as "the neighbours". Lack of variety is one thing. I think their design is a worse offender.

Also, you can not use powerfist with power armour. A weapon specifically designed for power armour and can not be used by one? Mkay, betheshit.

And the weapons that are there simply suck. Bowling ball launcher, fish hooks, harpoon laucher, radium rifles, a portable navy cannon? Those weapons are retarded, do not fit Fallout and exist for the rule of cool.

I will take Old Glory and All-American from NV over any shit from shitout 4.
 
Also, don't forget that Fallout 4 has a paddle ball which does more damage than guns. ;P

A PADDLE BALL AND STRING.
 
Ediros said:
And the weapons that are there simply suck. Bowling ball launcher, fish hooks, harpoon laucher, radium rifles, a portable navy cannon? Those weapons are retarded, do not fit Fallout and exist for the rule of cool.
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This.

I mean, this guys don´t play games? Or watch movies, read comics? ALL 100+ employees involved in this game thinks that these weapons are cool?

Did not have a dissonant voice to say "gzzzzz Todd, all this weapons sux. How about instead of this huge amount of crap we do not bring back the Gauss pistol?

Or the 3/NV repeaters, our customers seem to like these weapons a lot.

Or the .223 pistol? Because if we're going to do a crap out of a game where we have to hunt replicants, it makes sense to have the Blade Runner weapon, don´t you think? "

"Hey Todd, how about we include some grenade launchers? Pretty awesome weapon for a demolition expert hã?"

But no. NO. Let´s have a fucking nuka cola launcher.

What about E3? They showing a guy having his head blown by a teddy bear, as if it were cool. Maybe it is and I´m the alien, judging by the screams of approval from the fans.
 
Well, look at it this way, at least this time the receiver for the combat shotgun is BEFORE the foregrip and not after.

What kind of retard designs a "COMBAT RIFLE" that fires .45 ACP?! I'm not a gun person, but I've done enough research to understand the difference between a pistol round and a rifle round.

Bethesda doesn't give a shit. If this were simply a best they could job, I'd be unhappy, but I wouldn't be ashamed I bought it. No, they don't give a shit, and they don't want to do very basic research.

As for the paddle ball, we as Fallout fans have no room to complain: Red Ryder LE BB gun.

And Fallout has had a lot of ridiculous weapons: grease guns? In the 21st century?! BARS? Power fists? Super Sledges? A Nuka -Cola Sign? Even energy weapons make no sense economically. The same Microfusion cells you need for a prolonged campaign could drive a heavy sedan for a thousand miles over rough terrian. Of course, Fallout's pre-war world was built on the deliberate evocation of Rule of Cool. Nearly everything they did, they did it because it looked or sounded cool.

I don't have a problem with Fallout 4's weapons, it's just there aren't nearly enough of them. Except the Institute Laser rifle, that needs to to be rebalanced so it's not always the unfavorite compared to the AER series.
 
the Nuka -Cola Sign is a love letter to Nuka Break



(the girl is hot)

I found it a sensational tribute. But I've never used it, particularly.
 
Charwo said:
As for the paddle ball, we as Fallout fans have no room to complain: Red Ryder LE BB gun.
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Oh bugger off.

First off, the LE BB gun is only found as a special encounter in Fallout 1, and its inferior in most regards to late game weapons.

The Paddleball is a literal fucking paddleball.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Paddle_ball

Like.

Seriously.

Its a little rubber ball.

And string.

It even uses STRING as ammo.
 
Charwo said:
As for the paddle ball, we as Fallout fans have no room to complain: Red Ryder LE BB gun.
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Yes we do. One's a gun (albeit a toy, but it still fires stuff), the other's a bit of wood with a string and ball. BB guns still have to be handled carefully, because if you shoot someone in the eye with a BB gun? Serious injury or even death. EDIT: It's not likely you'd successfully defend yourself against an attacker using a BB gun I'll admit, but given the option between that and a paddle ball I'm going to pick the BB gun.

Whilst whacking a paddle ball at someone is very annoying at most.

Charwo said:
And Fallout has had a lot of ridiculous weapons: grease guns? In the 21st century?! BARS? Power fists? Super Sledges? A Nuka -Cola Sign?
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You have to remember that the 21st Century in Fallout is different from ours, given the whole "what the 50s thought the future would look like" vibe. Art reasons and the like.

Fallout wiki said:
This submachine gun filled National Guard arsenals after the Army replaced it with newer weapons. However, the "Grease Gun" was simple and cheap to manufacture so there are still quite a few still in use.
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The BAR isn't in Fallout but a gun based on it is and they're not wide-spread so I take from that they weren't massively used by the Pre-War military. It's a gun, it looks like a gun, it shoots lethal rounds. Hardly comparable to a ball and string.

Powerfists may look silly but they make sense as they're designed to amplify the power of a punch.

Super Sledges, whilst I don't like them, they were originally only a Brotherhood invention. That makes sense since a Power Armoured soldier would end up breaking a normal sledgehammer with his own strength. Again it was Bethesda that decided "Actually it's Pre-War!"

I'll grant you the Nuka Cola sign is kinda daft, but compare getting hit by a big, metal sign to a rubber ball on a paddle.

Charwo said:
Even energy weapons make no sense economically. The same Microfusion cells you need for a prolonged campaign could drive a heavy sedan for a thousand miles over rough terrian. Of course, Fallout's pre-war world was built on the deliberate evocation of Rule of Cool. Nearly everything they did, they did it because it looked or sounded cool.
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Are you really going to say that a weapon that's designed to burn/melt targets is on the same level of ridiculousness as using a paddle ball as a weapon?

EDIT: Also you're going to use the Rule of Cool against energy weapons but not Fallout 4's whacky guns?

EDIT: Damn quote tags and typos.
 
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