I forgive you, but I can understand why it look like I am trying to justify something, though I didn't mean to. I was just thinking out loud after the facts, and later intel on the legion I came across since. Believe me, despite possible appearances, I am not playing a character who shoot first and speak later. Like I said before, the real reason I killed Vulpes can be simply explained. I didn't like his attitude with my character, assuming he would just freeze and spread the word because the punks staged a little butchery. And Vulpes was making this little pathetic speech that awoke my murdering pulsions when all he had to say was: 'Look, we had our reasons and it was between them and us, nothing to do with you'. That's what I would have tried to say to later members of the legion, if they didn't attack first. But later intel make me think the legion often do this, and for even less reason than me. So they can't complain, in fact they should respect my character a little since I only followed their example against them. Common raiders and slavers also have pragmatic reasons, it pay well to raid and enslave, I am not making a mission to hunt them down unless I am payed for it. I didn't screw further with the powder gangs after the tutorial quests for example, and I even negociated the release of the Khans at Bouncer city. Mcmurphy was already dead and Benny probably already back in his casino, I figured making a little gesture to the Khans pawns might have some use later. (Or not, will see) And I heard about Bitter Spring already, regarding the NCR, however the soldiers that were there don't try to make it about grand ideas like Vulpes did. They screw up and they know it. Doesn't mean I like the NCR, but for now they pay well enough for a few neutral enough jobs. Edit, though I sabotaged the Helios 1 plant, I don't especially want to give this kind of power to any factions I encountered so far, if I can choose.