The Legality of Using S.P.E.C.I.A.L.

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by CaptJ, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    Jan 19, 2016
    I avoided making this thread because it might go under "stupid questions thread" or "I'm not your lawyer." territory. However, I had a different idea floating in my head and I think this might help me get my thoughts in order.

    Can Bethesda sue someone for using SPECIAL? It did sue Mojang for using the word Scrolls and some indie dev having the word Fallout in the title of its game. I doubt Bethesda can sue someone over the use of one or all the SPECIAL stats. I don't really care much about them spelling it as SPECIAL which I suspect is the only reason Bethesda like this stat system.

    I could use CLASSIC but I don't really like using less conventional names of stats. However, I guess that it might actually be necessary. What to rename them as?
  2. cratchety ol joe

    cratchety ol joe Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Sep 2, 2008
    ITT: People that recommend GURPS

    On a side note: I'm sure whatever you're dreaming up, as long as you're not planning to sell, market or widely publicise your 'thing' then it's unlikely that Bethesda will ever even be aware of you or your use of 'SPECIAL'

    Just crack on I say.
  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    the real irony is that, if Bethesda sues you, you'll have used SPECIAL 100% more times than they have.
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  4. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    Jan 19, 2016
    It is just a thought on how much changes is necessary. Is scrambling the letters enough? I heard certain game mechanics are patented so it must be nightmare to develop a game without accidentally stepping on a patent.
  5. TorontRayne

    TorontRayne Orderite of Chaos Staff Member Moderator Orderite

    Apr 1, 2005
    Scramble the letters, don't use a less clever pipboy substitute, and stray from suing the word vault. I won't correct that typo for obvious reasons.
  6. Kohno

    Kohno Vault Dweller

    Jul 30, 2009
    Call it A.C.E.L.I.P.S. ;)
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  7. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
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  8. CaptJ

    CaptJ The Rival of Roquefort Hall

    Jan 19, 2016
    I did thought of that but I don't know how far IP laws go. However like @cratchety ol joe, it is only a problem if actually try to make money on it.
  9. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Vault Fossil

    Nov 26, 2007
    While I would not test this out myself :mrgreen:, I am still under the impression that US law does not afford protection for a general way of doing something; (which makes the legality of software patents seem absurd). I've read that [though they may still try to sue], one could copy the D&D rule manual almost verbatim ~as far as the game rules go; just so long as they don't use D&D specific names, art, and fiction in the work.

    *Does [or did?] it still work like that, or have they screwed it up even worse in the recent years? [IE. allowing for silliness like copyrighting the word 'Mutant', or the color Brown.]
  10. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    If you think about it, SPECIAL(Minus Luck) is just a reworded version of the traditional D&D abilities.
    Strength = Strength
    Perception = Wisdom
    Endurance = Constitution
    Charisma = Charisma
    Intelligence = Intelligence
    Agility = Dexterity.