The Depressing Future of Fallout (Youtube video)

Irwin John Finster

Irwin John Finster

Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
This guy is a bit late to the party since the game's been out for a while, but he gets it:


If the constant negativity towards Fallout 4 and the future of the series seems depressing, it's because it is depressing for Fallout fans. It's not depressing for Bethesda fanboys, but for actual fans of Fallout 1, 2, 3, and New Vegas, there is little reason to be hopeful when $25 of the Season Pass was Mannequin crafting DLC and other assorted idiocy and there is no role playing in this game that is titled "Fallout."

This is going to be one of those series that people look back at and say "New Vegas was the last great Fallout game...I wish we had another one of those." Like fans of any great series that get destroyed and they're left disappointed that their favorite series has either been dumbed down to unrecognizable levels or simply halted development.

Bethesda simply doesn't understand Fallout, and they definitely don't give a crap. If you bought the Season Pass, you essentially paid for the ability to craft your own mannequins in your Sims town. The game was not made for Fallout fans.
 
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I forgot about this Video.
Yeah, if anything, we need more people like this to be the face of Fallout (rather than MrMatty who I consider more on the Bethesda side anyway).
I have plans to look at the future of fallout in the future as well. But I don't see it being Fallout that's for sure.
 
Agreed, it makes me sad knowing all of this is true. So many franchises killed by the greed and stupidity.

The worst part is rants like this won't change anything. The only chance lies in people who buy these games. If they voted smartly with their wallets it would be much better.

However with people getting dumber with each generation I don't expect much.
 
Ediros said:
Agreed, it makes me sad knowing all of this is true. So many franchises killed by the greed and stupidity.

The worst part is rants like this won't change anything. The only chance lies in people who buy these games. If they voted smartly with their wallets it would be much better.

However with people getting dumber with each generation I don't expect much.
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I don't think people are getting dumber, I think entertainment is and that leads to people not knowing what's good.
I know a lot of very smart people who enjoy Fallout 4 more than New Vegas, it doesn't mean they are dumb, they are just so used to shallow trash that something like New Vegas makes them feel stupid.
People don't want to feel stupid, especially when expecting mindless dumb fun.
 
Millim said:
I don't think people are getting dumber, I think entertainment is and that leads to people not knowing what's good.
I know a lot of very smart people who enjoy Fallout 4 more than New Vegas, it doesn't mean they are dumb, they are just so used to shallow trash that something like New Vegas makes them feel stupid.
People don't want to feel stupid, especially when expecting mindless dumb fun.
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I suppose, I just look at my younger brother and this generation of gamers and I find it hard to believe. Call me sceptical, but I can not help it.

I want people to know the difference, but I have not seen much of that. Heck most people won't touch Fallout 1 and 2 because they look old.

I have just recently started playing Fallout 1 and 2 and I think I finally understand why most Fallout fans hate 3 and 4. Those are good games with a bit wonky controls. Unfortunately most people look at graphics first.

I kind of think that I should write a thread about my journey through Fallout franchise.
 
Millim said:
I don't think people are getting dumber, I think entertainment is and that leads to people not knowing what's good.
I know a lot of very smart people who enjoy Fallout 4 more than New Vegas, it doesn't mean they are dumb, they are just so used to shallow trash that something like New Vegas makes them feel stupid.
People don't want to feel stupid, especially when expecting mindless dumb fun.
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That's the problem though - Fallout 4 was made for the ultra casual gamer. It was not made for Fallout fans.

I wasn't looking for Fallout 4 to be some hardcore RPG (it's made by Bethesda after all) but the game is so ultra childish and dumbed down that there is no other explanation for it.
 
Ediros said:
I suppose, I just look at my younger brother and this generation of gamers and I find it hard to believe. Call me sceptical, but I can not help it.

I want people to know the difference, but I have not seen much of that. Heck most people won't touch Fallout 1 and 2 because they look old.

I have just recently started playing Fallout 1 and 2 and I think I finally understand why most Fallout fans hate 3 and 4. Those are good games with a bit wonky controls. Unfortunately most people look at graphics first.

I kind of think that I should write a thread about my journey through Fallout franchise.
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I'm in the opposite situation.
My brother is years older than me (he is 28), he had an entire generation of gaming before me yet I recently introduced him to Fallout 1 (he liked 3 and 4 alot, yet I hold a grudge because he stopped at killing Benny in New Vegas) and even then, we had the Fallout Fixt patch on so the timer was turned off.

Weirldy enough, as much as I disliked the timer on my first playthrough, I found it to be one of the more enjoyable aspects of fallout 1.
Now, my brother isn't stupid or anything, he isn't used to the combat or the gameplay, that kind of RPG isn't his thing.

I'm not trying to say that one example suits everyone, in my case, I happen to enjoy older games.
Then again, as I grow older, I realise things I wouldn't like five years ago, are looking a lot more entertaining to me. I like my fiction long and slow, and Fallout is a good example of fiction that is long and slow.

I too am going through my first playthrough of Fallout 2, and the only real issue I have is how common the random encounters are (ironically enough, I find them tedious to sit through when you've already gone through a dozen of them and it's 1 in the morning).

But still, games are looking a lot brighter, Witcher 3 is good, Bloodborne is also good, resi7 looks good, as does FFXV.

And there's also the hate for the new COD which is a relief.
 
Millim said:
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Hmm... that is unexpected. Different people, different tastes I believe.

COD hate is also a pleasant change.

I agree with Random Encounters in Fallout 2, too many of them. Especially if you go for power armour run like I did.

Witcher 3, is a decent action game. It is not exactly an RPG, but it has got plenty of choice and consequence, even though we play as an established charaacter. And cd projekt red looks like a good company, hopefully cyberpunk 2077 will be a good game.

In my case, my first Fallout game was Fallout 3. At the time, I didn't know anything about the franchise and only as I grew older I realized how awful it was. I played this game at the age of about 14, 15, so I had no clue about good rpgs at the time.

Right now, as I grew older, I finally can tell when a game is just bad and Fallout 4 is a bad game in general. When I was younger I wanted games that had a lot of action, but right now not anymore.
 
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Yeah, for me Fallout 3 was my start to the series, I still enjoy it as a game but can't deny it's very bad in terms of being Fallout.
As for Witcher 3, I consider it a Light RPG/Adevnture game. There's still room to develop your own story, but your character for the most part is pre-written.
 
Ediros said:
I suppose, I just look at my younger brother and this generation of gamers and I find it hard to believe.
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I guess I got lucky with younger siblings then. My younger brother also hates Fallout 4 as much as I do and loves New Vegas since he can see what Fallout 4 lacked and could see what New Vegas had. Even my older brother who did not play any Fallout games could get into New Vegas (albeit for the sniping initially) and finish it but I doubt he could stick with 4's mindlessness (and if he needed to shoot something, there is always id's Wolfenstein:TNO or Doom 2016).

The problem I see is that the younger generation are more emotional which makes them want to feel excited and enthusiastic about everything so they are willing to look past flaws and issues to be a part of a community who are like them. I still recall being told to "suck a d*ck" in a comment once for being the only critical voice on a video about the latest Fallout DLCs while being bashed by other comments so it becomes more evident that these individuals would block out any criticism so that their confirmation bias is satiated. It would take a massive fall from grace before Bethesda fans would stop supporting what Bethesda is doing to Fallout.
 
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CerberusGate said:
I still recall being told to "suck a d*ck" in a comment once for being the only critical voice on a video about the latest Fallout DLCs while being bashed by other comments so it becomes more evident that these individuals would block out any criticism so that their confirmation bias is satiated..
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Classic Bethesdrone lines include finding all your critical comments on any YouTube video you've commented on and calling you "cancer" in all of them, gotta love their dedication.
 
Deeves said:
" ... It seems increasingly unlikely that Obsidian will get a chance to make another Fallout ..."



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Yeah, the other day I was watching the intro to Project Brazil. Can't deny I was actually getting a Fallout 1 intro vibe from that. Just..... hot damn!
 
Deeves said:
" ... It seems increasingly unlikely that Obsidian will get a chance to make another Fallout ..."



Project Brazil
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Black Angel said:
Yeah, the other day I was watching the intro to Project Brazil. Can't deny I was actually getting a Fallout 1 intro vibe from that. Just..... hot damn!
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So it has finally come to this: We no longer rely on modders to "fix" Bethesda games, we now are relying on them to make the actual game itself.
 
Irwin John Finster said:
So it has finally come to this: We no longer rely on modders to "fix" Bethesda games, we now are relying on them to make the actual game itself.
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Exactly. The way I see it, if Bethesda insisted on using the Fallout 4 format for their future projects, I'd rather stick to New Vegas for whatever quest mods/DLC-sized mods they can provide instead. When I got some money but no game to buy, I'd rather let them flow to modder's pocket, even when Bethesda's games are 90% off.
 
Irwin John Finster said:
So it has finally come to this: We no longer rely on modders to "fix" Bethesda games, we now are relying on them to make the actual game itself.
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When Bethesda spend most of their time making workshop and settlement based dlc instead of making a good story of course we do. It has come to that.
 
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