Climate Change is not real!

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Crni Vuk

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Record for the highest ever measured temperatures in Germany since the start of measuring temperatures in 1800 or so, has been breached like 3 times in the past 1 or 2 days.

Climate change is not real guys. We and we have nothing to worry about.


Just a reminder.
 
Just had two buddies visit Germany recently, one is still there. The one still there is posting pics of 40 plus temp degree Celsius figures. He had no AC in his airbnb-room.
 
Super cold winter temperatures: Lol, don't mistake weather for climate, retard.
Super hot summer temperatures: We're all dying of climate change right now.
Climate change is real, yes. But there's also a lot of hot air produced around it.
 
Hassknecht said:
Super cold winter temperatures: Lol, don't mistake weather for climate, retard.
Super hot summer temperatures: We're all dying of climate change right now.
Climate change is real, yes. But there's also a lot of hot air produced around it.
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Did you survive the biathlon (?)?
 
MutantScalper said:
Did you survive the biathlon (?)?
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Yeah. They cut short the laps a little and at most everyone just ran the lap twice (and it didn't involve that much running, actually, just like a 100 m lap around a little hill), but it was still extremely warm. But we had free beer and barbecue, which was awesome. Got a wicked sunburn, though.
 
Today I lost 2 litres of fluid, from the god-fucking heat. If it's gonna be like this, I'm gonna be all evaporated 40 days from now.
 
Hassknecht said:
But we had free beer and barbecue, which was awesome.
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Now I'm jealous.

FYI; global average temp difference between the 20th century and the last ice age was only 2 or 3 degrees. It doesn't take that much to make a big difference. It doesn't mean the end of the world. During the late middle ages, it got warm enough in England for them to grow grapes. There are surviving letters, I believe to the French wine minister, complaining about the great quality of English wine and the effect it had on the French wine industry. Obviously, that didn't last. Crap happens, sometimes repeatedly.
 
Not to worry, the Prophet has sent us a message wrapped in music.
 
zegh8578 said:
Today I lost 2 litres of fluid, from the god-fucking heat. If it's gonna be like this, I'm gonna be all evaporated 40 days from now.
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Thats like 16 gills!

Nothing to worry about though since in reality the climate is flat and this is just a big scare perpetrated by Big Air Conditioning to get people to buy more AC units. It is most likely there are couple space heaters on a roof somewhere melting Europe.
 
Hassknecht said:
Super cold winter temperatures: Lol, don't mistake weather for climate, retard.
Super hot summer temperatures: We're all dying of climate change right now.
Climate change is real, yes. But there's also a lot of hot air produced around it.
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I guess you wouldn't be among the 700 scientist behind Scientists for Future then. Or the 15 000 scientists that are now supporting a letter to the governments of the world.

Simply stating a possible future based on knowledge and facts is not scare mongering. Right now it even seems that certain events are happening sooner than anticipated. Like the melting of the polar caps and the permafrost in Siberia. With very dangerous consequences. Or that we're facing the 6th mass extinction event. Why is this exactly wrong or just hype in your opinion?

So I am really not sure on what basis you actually place your doubts. I am not a climate scientist. But climate scientists say we're in really dangerous and unknown territory here. That we're doing nothing to stop our current behaviour. And that we will face very serious consequences.

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You know I consider you the most intelligent person I know. But sometimes you make comments where I have to ask my self if it's the same person.

When someone says, look there is snow in December! Climate change can't be happening. Then it's a silly argument because it's cold during winter what ever if there is a climate change or not.

When people talk about exceptional heat waves during summer then it's because temperatures are rising due to climate change.

I mean it's like as if you told me right now, gravity is just a theory after all.

Richwizard said:
Now I'm jealous.

FYI; global average temp difference between the 20th century and the last ice age was only 2 or 3 degrees. It doesn't take that much to make a big difference. It doesn't mean the end of the world. During the late middle ages, it got warm enough in England for them to grow grapes. There are surviving letters, I believe to the French wine minister, complaining about the great quality of English wine and the effect it had on the French wine industry. Obviously, that didn't last. Crap happens, sometimes repeatedly.
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Except that it now happens on a global scale and not just in some regions. So it's not just getting a bit warmer in summer and a bit more cold in winter. We will see disruptive events that destroy whole eco systems. Eco systems like our forests, reefs and oceans work in cycles where they regenerate and constantly change over time keeping a balance. However if those cycles are broken they can not be recreated again. Once the Ocean has reached a certain level of acidification pretty much most of the creatures living in it will be dead. We could very well look at a global collapse of the eco system here. The main reason why this is different to your example is because we're changing right now the whole basis for what supports the current live on this planet.

You could say we're right now doing a sort of terraforming. Just that we create conditions that are not very supportive for human life. If like a large part of the global food production is collapsing you won't see people grow grapes in Britain anymore. ​
 
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Crni Vuk said:
I guess you wouldn't be among the 700 scientist behind Scientists for Future then. Or the 15 000 scientists that are now supporting a letter to the government of the world.

Simply stating a possible future based on knowledge and facts is not scare mongering. Right now it even seems that certain events are happening sooner than anticipated. Like the melting of the polar caps and the permafrost in Siberia. With very dangerous consequences. Or that we're facing the 6th mass extinction event. Why is this exactly wrong or just hype in your opinion?

So I am really not sure on what basis you actually place your doubts. I am not a climate scientist. But climate scientists say we're in really dangerous and unknown territory here. That we're doing nothing to stop our current behaviour. And that we will face very serious consequences.


Except that it now happens on a global scale and not just in some regions. So it's not just getting a bit warmer in summer and a bit more cold in winter. We will see disruptive events that destroy whole eco systems. Eco systems like our forests, reefs and oceans work in cycles where they regenerate and constantly change over time keeping a balance. However if those cycles are broken they can not be recreated again. Once the Ocean has reached a certain level of acidification pretty much most of the creatures living in it will be dead. We could very well look at a global collapse of the eco system here.

You could say we're right now doing a sort of terraforming. Just that we create conditions that are not very supportive for human life. If like a large part of the global food production is collapsing you won't see people grow grapes in Britain anymore. ​
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I don't have doubts, can you even read? I was making light of the double standard people apply to people saying cold winters show that climate change isn't real ("Lol Trump doesn't know the difference between weather and climate") and using hot summers to show that climate change is real ("This is the hottest summer ever and it will only become worse, checkmate climate change deniers").
And, of course, making light of the massive alarmism that is blasted 24/7 since several decades in various iterations.
 
There is no excuse for every home in the entire world not having complete energy independence with the current technology we have.
 
There is the excuse called "physics", but yeah, besides that, true.
And economics, because you'd then have to basically revamp the entire electrical grid and technology.
 
Just buy the kits they sell online and tell everyone else to go fuck themselves.

If they want to fine you or take the shit outta your house throw a bomb through their office window.

Stop fucking around.
 
Hassknecht said:
I don't have doubts, can you even read? I was making light of the double standard people apply to people saying cold winters show that climate change isn't real ("Lol Trump doesn't know the difference between weather and climate") and using hot summers to show that climate change is real ("This is the hottest summer ever and it will only become worse, checkmate climate change deniers").
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Then sincere appologiez to you good sir.

However I was always under the impression that you kinda had your doubts about the effects of global warming.

However it's not a double standard because it's the context that matters here. No one is saying "Check mate! It's hot in summer so climate change is real!", we are saying "Check mate! This is one of the hottest summers in recorded history like predicted by scientists! Climate change is real!".

Big difference in my book at least.

Hassknecht said:
And, of course, making light of the massive alarmism that is blasted 24/7 since several decades in various iterations.
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That's where we of course disagree. To me it's not alarmism when it's based on facts.
 
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The only true change is radical change. The only reason that we don't have energy independence is because if you created your own power they couldn't charge you money for it.


Stop waiting and depending on others to do things for you.
 
Crni Vuk said:
There are things that you can do and there are things governments have to do for you.
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If the government takes bribes from energy companies to regulate you in such a way that you can't do anything without government oversight then....
 
Yeah of course that sucks and those things like corruption in general have to stop and change. But that still doesn't change the fact that we as individuals can only do so much before we reach a situation where we have to come together and form groups or structures. Which is also the general idea behind corporations. I am not against corporations in general. When I say 'Government' I use the term very loosely to describe all kind of public institutions with the intention to regulate, administrate and operate situations one person alone can not do. Like funding and running of institutions like a police, military, schools, rescue and health and so on. There are instances where you really have to depend on some kind of organisation and structure with an administration behind it because the individual can not help themself when the need for it arises. Like a huge storm where thousands of people are affected or if you're house is on fire and you need firefighters with special training to perform certain tasks and so on.

*Edit I understand your point and I agree we should become a lot more Independent as individuals. But this is simply not possible in ALL instances.
 
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