That I could live with, but I thought they had mentioned that crafting wouldn't involve making accessories or upgrading existing weapons or armor. Which is stupid, since making scopes, expanding magazines, hardening power armor, and those sorts of things would all be great uses of a crafting system. Possibly making your own ammo too?Ausir said:
1Up interviews Emil Pagliarulo
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Sorrow
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I was talking about Van Buren.Kyuu said:Well it's plausible since there'll be gads of highly explosive nuclear reactors in centuries-old automobiles and piles of scrap metal from which any tech-savvy person could easily fashion himself a suit of hi-tech armor, right?Sorrow said:
And a rubber band, paper clip, and length of surgical tubing should fit the bill nicely for a nuclear catapult no?
Ah yes, because judging information that Bethesda has made available (FP, real-time with pause, crafting system, screenshots, storyline etc etc etc) is *jumping to conclusions!!!!!* Because, you know, analysing things that are presented to you is an evil, evil thing to do.nindustrial said:
PS: Also note how this exact same criticism *must* go for all the previews that are hyping this game up, if it also goes for us. Yet 'lo and behold, I never see someone complain about that.
In FALLOUT2 I remmember this one conversation with a dude working for a power plant. |He sounded realy crazy and ended up blowing himself to bits cos i was trying to be funny with him during our little chat.
I remmember saving the game beforehand, and and trying different conversations with him, eventually upon finding out what to say so that he doesnt blow to bits, i would steal from him -> i would put an explosive charge set for one minute in to his pockets) Then i talked him out of blowing himself up and watching him go boom anyway...
well i guess that sort of fun will not be included in "fallout".
I am not a huge fan of fallout like some here but i like the games, i liked the freedom, i liked that the conversations made a difference. It seems that what i will be looking forward to now is the age of decadence total conversion mod which some people may or may not ever make.
Up until now i was frustrated that i would have to buy a new graphic card for "fallout", no longer my problem.
Looking at how Blizzard is responding to their fans critique of Starcraft 2, i think now that Blizzard would make a better fallout than bethesda, im sure they could get the game right eventually after fans (the people who blizzard makes the games for) suggest the improvements.
i feel dissapointed, is the movie IDIOCRACY coming to reality here, are gamers thought of as incompetent money cows?. Console gamers are dictating what sales and what doesnt. Why should they dictate the trends ? I never wanted super mario macguyver fallout brothers! (seems to be the follow-up to the next fallout).
aahhh
anyway...
there... one less PC gamer(someone whos life does not revolve around playing games 12h/day, but would like to play quality games) buying Fallout 3...
10 more console gamers buying fallout once, playing it twice and dropping it because it was not verry "mario brothers" like.
result:
money, fallout dead.
sorry for the rant
I remmember saving the game beforehand, and and trying different conversations with him, eventually upon finding out what to say so that he doesnt blow to bits, i would steal from him -> i would put an explosive charge set for one minute in to his pockets) Then i talked him out of blowing himself up and watching him go boom anyway...
well i guess that sort of fun will not be included in "fallout".
I am not a huge fan of fallout like some here but i like the games, i liked the freedom, i liked that the conversations made a difference. It seems that what i will be looking forward to now is the age of decadence total conversion mod which some people may or may not ever make.
Up until now i was frustrated that i would have to buy a new graphic card for "fallout", no longer my problem.
Looking at how Blizzard is responding to their fans critique of Starcraft 2, i think now that Blizzard would make a better fallout than bethesda, im sure they could get the game right eventually after fans (the people who blizzard makes the games for) suggest the improvements.
i feel dissapointed, is the movie IDIOCRACY coming to reality here, are gamers thought of as incompetent money cows?. Console gamers are dictating what sales and what doesnt. Why should they dictate the trends ? I never wanted super mario macguyver fallout brothers! (seems to be the follow-up to the next fallout).
aahhh
anyway...
there... one less PC gamer(someone whos life does not revolve around playing games 12h/day, but would like to play quality games) buying Fallout 3...
10 more console gamers buying fallout once, playing it twice and dropping it because it was not verry "mario brothers" like.
result:
money, fallout dead.
sorry for the rant
nindustrial said:
*sigh* Okay, I have to come clean.
I'm time traveller. I was in 2008 and I have played FO3. It doesn't even resemble Fallout.
Ok, here's my advice. If you think we're jumping to conclusions- go burn all the magazines that had FO3 preview. And people who wrote them too. It's not like bethesda is talking about FO3 all the time and some people have actually seen the demo, right?
God dammit, I wonder where's the place that hides people 'we don't know anything yet, you must play it to judge'.
ivpiter
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I believe it's worth noting that this Emil post cost Beth some of it's support. I noticed that VaultDweller 101 a self proclaimed pro-Beth Pro-FO3 fan from Day 1 on the Beth boards had this to say:
My point? If this is what it sounds like, and by that I mean NPC's have the same 0-100 dislike-like counter as in Oblivion and the only thing we can impact via dialogue is this slider... woah...
Come Fall 2008 lots of bloom and a flying slo-mo eyeball won't cut it... I believe Bioshock will give FO-3 a run for its money on the graphics front and for blood and gore I hear Manhunt-2 will slate the thirst of even the most psychotic budding mass murderer, or to quote Todd, "blow a guy's head off and it zooms in and shows you the gory details," since, you know, "violence done well is fucking hilarious".
Meaning FO3 won't enjoy the huge "wow" factor Oblivion had and seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater with regard to the Fallout license.
To me the silence from Beth on dialogue says an aweful lot.
My point? If this is what it sounds like, and by that I mean NPC's have the same 0-100 dislike-like counter as in Oblivion and the only thing we can impact via dialogue is this slider... woah...
Come Fall 2008 lots of bloom and a flying slo-mo eyeball won't cut it... I believe Bioshock will give FO-3 a run for its money on the graphics front and for blood and gore I hear Manhunt-2 will slate the thirst of even the most psychotic budding mass murderer, or to quote Todd, "blow a guy's head off and it zooms in and shows you the gory details," since, you know, "violence done well is fucking hilarious".
Meaning FO3 won't enjoy the huge "wow" factor Oblivion had and seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater with regard to the Fallout license.
To me the silence from Beth on dialogue says an aweful lot.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
I honestly still don't understand what he means, I'm puzzled...
Edit: <3 puuk
Edit: <3 puuk
quietfanatic
Ancient One
Wait a minute. Shouldn't Matt Grandstaff translate Emil's mess into clear English? All these comments are quite damaging, so they need some follow up.
Grandstaff does community management, not PR. That's Pete's job, but he was at Leipzig all week (according to RPGVault)
Bethesda has shown no desire to clear up damaging comments earlier, so don't hold your breath
Bethesda has shown no desire to clear up damaging comments earlier, so don't hold your breath
IMO, Damaged rifle + used rifle = rifle with better characteristics then both of those used for creation. And as you proceed items tend to brake and you fix them again. A strange repair/creation combination. That's all there is to it.
EDIT: btw, making power armor from plate armor and a pair of donkey balls would be stupid, because it requires some sort of skill. Specializing in drug making, demolition, weapon, armor would be great though. Oh, did i mention that we are supposedly playing a 19yo tard?
EDIT: btw, making power armor from plate armor and a pair of donkey balls would be stupid, because it requires some sort of skill. Specializing in drug making, demolition, weapon, armor would be great though. Oh, did i mention that we are supposedly playing a 19yo tard?
Joe Kremlin
First time out of the vault
Just though I'd ask, is there any aspect of the game at this point that isn't just Oblivion with guns? There's the setting, but everything else is exactly the same besides that half assed attempt at faking TB.
Morbus
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Well, let's see:The Duke said:Joe Kremlin said:
Why ask the obvious chap? Oblivion N Gunz it is
- Locational damage (FPS, it HAD to be there)
- Destructible environments and characters (it would have been a good thing for Oblivion, so it can be considered as Oblivion N Gunz)
- A somewhat not-sucking-so-much-but-still-sucking character system (due to be based on SPECIAL, but actually being a hybrid - developing main stats and such)
I can't remember anything else, now everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING, is just Oblivion N Gunzorz. Weapon schematics, dialogs, questlines (it seems), characters, world, dungeon crawling (seems so), everything is taken from Oblivion. Not to mention all the small things. One thing is for sure, no way out: when doing FOE, they ALWAYS keep in mind what they did with Oblivion.
I really hope they are not successful at all with FOE.
Hello Mr Folleto,
Its a shame that we will never get to try out the project you and your former colleagues were working on.
More and more it is becoming the gem that never was.
Its a shame that we will never get to try out the project you and your former colleagues were working on.
More and more it is becoming the gem that never was.
That's an umpredictable big factor there. Seeing the hit Oblivion is, you can realize shit thrives nowadays. But FO: POS did fail...so, hope doesn't die. What would hapen if Fallout 3 happened to be a mojor flock anyway? wouldn't Bethesda probably still retain the license?
The Duke said:
Hello The Duke,
Very likely Bethesda would try to fix the damage with 'free' patches (gasp!) and an expansion pack that will 'fix' the gameplay.
Should that not work, perhaps Tod and Co might be able to convince the higher ups that they can fix the damage in Fallout 4.
If that fails, well Bethesda will probably label Fallout as a 'dead franchise'.