Anandtech forum user purportedly has Fallout 3, answers Qs

[Aero]

Ok so 5 more minutes of set up. Taking the pic. uploading it and adding link here. SO 20 minutes altogether on this faked version.

Except for the fact that HIS version of the menu has the exact same lighting than the pictures and videos we've seen of the menus so far. Yours does not. Yours looks just like a wallpaper to which you've added a few icons...

lighting takes a bit longer to fake but it is doable. Plus with all the glare coming off his screen its kind difficult to tell what his lighting is. The pic was blurry. And if you look at that second pic I did the same he did. Put the "Screensaver" pic up and took a snapshot with my camera. Mines a bit closer Cause I have the "PC" version and its on my laptop which has a MUCH smaller screen.

Anyways it dosn't matter anymore since he couldn't take the heat and shut it down.

 

[Ausir]

Except for the fact that HIS version of the menu has the exact same lighting than the pictures and videos we've seen of the menus so far. Yours does not. Yours looks just like a wallpaper to which you've added a few icons...

Yup, we know how the menu looks like, only the background image is random, as seen in the leaked Taiwan screenshots. The version with the power armor guy was not showed in the Taiwan screens, though.

The pic was blurry. And if you look at that second pic I did the same he did.

Nope, you didn't. I'd know yours is fake on first glance, since we know what the real menu is.

 

[whirlingdervish]

perhaps we should nitpick something other than the excercise in photoshoppery that has gone on in this thread.

like a certain Bethsoft admin's triumphant claim that they were instrumental in removing this guy's "information" from the web, and why with only a month to go they'd feel the need to do something like that, WHEN IT CONTAINED NOTHING OF VALUE AT ALL.

it may have been a picture of the main menu. WOOOO!

If they weren't so tight lipped about the game in the first place, and insistent that they choose the venue where it is previewed on every single occasion that it is shown to the public, maybe people wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in a claim like this guy made.

They could have negated any such nefarious insider information postings, if they had just shown the damn game to the public in the first place, as opposed to holding it tight to their chests until e3 where they picked a select few "previewers" from the "media" to get short hands-on demos and a checklist of Beth approved things to say about it.

This whole occurence is an indicator of the horrific and flawed PR policy that bethesda chooses to use, and how much gamers really want to get some form of information about the title that isn't filtered through a bunch of outright liars.

 

[Aero]

nit picking

Except for the fact that HIS version of the menu has the exact same lighting than the pictures and videos we've seen of the menus so far. Yours does not. Yours looks just like a wallpaper to which you've added a few icons...

Yup, we know how the menu looks like, only the background image is random, as seen in the leaked Taiwan screenshots. The version with the power armor guy was not showed in the Taiwan screens, though.

The pic was blurry. And if you look at that second pic I did the same he did.

Nope, you didn't. I'd know yours is fake on first glance, since we know what the real menu is.

Yes the buttons were not the same it wasn't meant to exactly match the leaked screenshots. The one I did was just a quick mod.

Since your nit picking so much. here:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/ind...dID=71137336&albumID=1475927&imageID=35412009

Session time on this one was 19 minutes. I had to modify the Letters in Fallout a little as I didn't really have a font that matches. then messed with some filters. The menu options on the right took hardly anything. After I tool the picture they do look a little dark. Might be the pic I used as a background. Could be my camera and lighting. Anyways again it took 19 minutes. Not a hard thing to do. If I took another 19 minutes I could have probably matched it exactly.

 

[thefalloutfan]

perhaps we should nitpick something other than the excercise in photoshoppery that has gone on in this thread.

like a certain Bethsoft admin's triumphant claim that they were instrumental in removing this guy's "information" from the web, and why with only a month to go they'd feel the need to do something like that, WHEN IT CONTAINED NOTHING OF VALUE AT ALL.

it may have been a picture of the main menu. WOOOO!

If they weren't so tight lipped about the game in the first place, and insistent that they choose the venue where it is previewed on every single occasion that it is shown to the public, maybe people wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in a claim like this guy made.

They could have negated any such nefarious insider information postings, if they had just shown the damn game to the public in the first place, as opposed to holding it tight to their chests until e3 where they picked a select few "previewers" from the "media" to get short hands-on demos and a checklist of Beth approved things to say about it.

This whole occurence is an indicator of the horrific and flawed PR policy that bethesda chooses to use, and how much gamers really want to get some form of information about the title that isn't filtered through a bunch of outright liars.

Talk about an over reaction

 

[Aero]

Beth

They Felt the need because the guy was being threatened suposedly. People already had his Address and Ip and were posting it.

 

[UncannyGarlic]

Re: Beth

They Felt the need because the guy was being threatened suposedly. People already had his Address and Ip and were posting it.

I saw no threats. As for getting his personal information, he's the only one to blame for that.

 

[Ausir]

Anyways again it took 19 minutes. Not a hard thing to do. If I took another 19 minutes I could have probably matched it exactly.

Still looks faker than his version. The menu is pretty much unreadable in yours. And the lettering is not right.

 

[whirlingdervish]

Here's a good question:

Since we're the rabid, violent, and horrible fans of Fallout, who was threatening the guy for doing something that we'd probably appreciate if it was a legitimate attempt to spread information about Fallout 3?

That claim makes no sense, and seems to be even less factual than the original post.

Only someone with a stake in Fallout 3's financial success like a company employee would even consider taking some sort of physical action against a random guy on the net who did an unofficial preview and didn't even leak content we haven't seen.

Nobody else cares that strongly about keeping the actual details of Fallout 3 out of the public eye until it's release.

Bethsoft's leading men may be idiots but I still can't see anyone in the company being stupid enough to endanger the sales of the project they've been working on for multiple years, just to throw a brick at some random gamer who claimed to have a prerelease copy.

 

[Ausir]

Bethsoft's leading men may be idiots but I still can't see anyone in the company being stupid enough to endanger the sales of the project they've been working on for multiple years, just to throw a brick at some random gamer who claimed to have a prerelease copy.

Unless they know that he does have it?

 

[whirlingdervish]

What purpose would shitting on the guy serve, at this point, regardless of his posession of the game?

Even if he does have it a month early, he has essentially not released any real or verifiable information, and he poses no noticeable threat to their sales or to the writers of the many exclusive previews they already gave out.

If there is any real effect from this, it's that he just sold a hundred more copies for them, by mentioning their game on the net and generating controversy.

It's either a PR stunt, complete fabrication, or a legit hands-on written by a monkey and in none of those cases does it make much sense for anyone to threaten the guy with legal or illegal action.

 

[Von Drunky]

What purpose would shitting on the guy serve, at this point, regardless of his posession of the game?

Even if he does have it a month early, he has essentially not released any real or verifiable information, and he poses no noticeable threat to their sales or to the writers of the many exclusive previews they already gave out.

If there is any real effect from this, it's that he just sold a hundred more copies for them, by mentioning their game on the net and generating controversy.

It's either a PR stunt, complete fabrication, or a legit hands-on written by a monkey and in none of those cases does it make much sense for anyone to threaten the guy with legal or illegal action.

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[Brother None]

What purpose would shitting on the guy serve, at this point, regardless of his posession of the game?

You don't know Bethesda very well, do you?

They're paranoid as hell about this kind of shit.

About any kind of shit really.

They're paranoid.

 

[UncannyGarlic]

Did they threaten him with legal action?

 

[Stiched]

Did they threaten him with legal action?

Doesn't seem that way. :\

Assuming that this guy is legit, we could of gotten some new info. But his last post shows completely that he's a giant sack of crap.

 

[whirlingdervish]

What purpose would shitting on the guy serve, at this point, regardless of his posession of the game?

You don't know Bethesda very well, do you?

They're paranoid as hell about this kind of shit.

About any kind of shit really.

They're paranoid.

That was kinda the point of my questioning..

I was attempting to put the crazy/rabid/etc back on their side of the court without coming straight out and saying so.

Unfortunately when I say such things as blatantly as you have, people post about how im over-reacting or how I'm assuming too much and demonizing Bethesda.

I agree completely with your last sentence above.

 

[Roffler]

I was attempting to put the crazy/rabid/etc back on their side of the court without coming straight out and saying so.

You're essentially calling an artist a huge crazy because he had the audacity to not want his stolen painting shown to the public, before he was finished with it, since he should be happy that more people will see it.

And be noted that I'm not championing Bethesda, I'm championing an artists right to not have his work misrepresented.

 

[whirlingdervish]

No, I'm essentially calling Bethesda, who's products can barely be described as art, a bunch of fucking lunatics who seem to be bent on making sure nobody gets to actually have an opinion on their game unless they pay them 60 bucks or suck them off in an official preview.

Would you call it art if a 5 year old took the Mona Lisa and fingerpainted all over it with feces?

Well that's what Bethesda has done here.

with that aside, lets get down to the meat of your argument:

artists don't have the right to decide what others can say about their art.

they have the right to make art, and let people see it, but any amount of discourse or the expression of opinions based upon that art is purely subjective and not within the artists rights to censor just because he made the piece in question.

Bethesda did have a right to not let the guy have a copy. From what we've seen so far, he probably didn't.

All he did was say he had it and played it and quote things you could read in all of the previews. He may or may not have actually released a screencapture (odds are leaning towards it being a fake).

I could go make a blog right now and do the same and when "Summer" started pestering me with emails to take down the "content" I would be well within my rights to tell her to fuck off.

Freedom of the press extends to individuals writing game reviews even if they are spurious.

Bethsoft's Intellectual Property rights do not trump my freedom of the press and my freedom to lie blatantly while writing about said property.

 

[Phancypants]

Re: Beth

They Felt the need because the guy was being threatened suposedly. People already had his Address and Ip and were posting it.

I saw no threats. As for getting his personal information, he's the only one to blame for that.

No, it's the psycho who thinks that stalking some guy online and posting personal details is an appropriate response to lying about having a game early.

If a guy at my work bragged about a 50' OLED TV, am I allowed to flip through the mail on his desk to find a home address? After all, he left it laying right out there! If I do find his address, am I right in driving to his house? After all, they're public roads! If the back door is unlocked can I go in and snoop around? Really now, if he didn't want me in his house, he should have remembered to use the deadbolt! Tell me, at what point does it stop being his fault, and where does hypothetical me become a creepy bastard who's justifying antisocial behavior with the belief that it's a pursuit of truth?

 

[Ausir]

If a guy at my work bragged about a 50' OLED TV, am I allowed to flip through the mail on his desk to find a home address?

All of this guy's personal info was easily googlable, it's hardly an appropriate metaphore.