Anime

The manga is still going on, its running bi monthly or monthly i believe?

I never heard of the anime creator dieing, and for sure the creator of berserk is still around.
 
Gentlemen said:
Anime is inferior to pretty much anything. It's not deep at all, yet the same bastards keep telling Neo Evangelion or whatever the fuck it's called was deep. It isn't.

yeah you are right and even the creator of Evangelion left the plot of the story only half-explained because they were running out of money when they made it....

But nowadays Hideaki Hanno is very rich because of the merchandising and selling of gadgets about both the Evangelion anime and manga franchises....
 
1. My all-time favorite from childhood - Cyber City OEDO 808. I like english dubbed version (what a dialogs!) with metal soundtrack (not that jap/pop crap). Cult classic for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZakDfseyo&feature=related

Sengoku:

CRIMES

-Murder
-Assault
-Unlawful posession of cyber weapons
-Traffic violations in Cyber City
-Desturbing the peace in Cyber City
-Endangering public welfare in Cyber City
-Forgery of currency, bonds & data
-World computer fraud
-Breaking database law
-Resisting arrest

SENTENCED TO 375 YEARS

What a nice person.

P.S. I can't believe UK OST isn't included in DVD release... :(

2. Ghost In The Shell (Japanese Dub)
3. Blood The Last Vampire (Japanese dub)
4. Dominion Tank Police, New Dominion Tank Police (Also like only english-dubbed versions)
5. Urotsukidoji Legend Of The Overfiend, Urotsukdoji Legend Of The Demon Womb (Only english-dubbed uncut versions)
 
ben-ten said:
5. Urotsukidoji Legend Of The Overfiend, Urotsukdoji Legend Of The Demon Womb (Only english-dubbed uncut versions)
- nice, heh.

It seems like most people here aren't big into recent anime.

For good newer anime, check out Kannagi or Macross F.

Other great animes:

Mai HiME
Mai Otome
Dai Akuji
Last Exile
School Days
Da Capo
Macross (any)

The Miyazaki films are good, but not the solid-gold toilets people think they are. ( solid-gold toilet = badass )
 
I'm not a big fan of anime, having only watched two tv series in my life and mostly only Miyazaki films, but I just finished the Code Geass series and found it enjoyable. Whatever you have against anime you have to at least give them some credit for having reasonable lengths. For instance Code Geass is only 50 episodes and the ending resolves everything nicely. Cowboy Bebop is similarly short.
 
Standard size for one season is 24-26 episodes, actually.

Series that have 50+ like Bebop have aired for two seasons or longer.
 
Ausdoerrt said:
Well, Berserk IS incomplete, because the guy who was making it died before he finished it iirc/
The anime is based on the manga and is 25 episodes because it only ran for one season. The mangaka is still alive and kicking from what I can find.

dingohunternigel said:
The Miyazaki films are good, but not the solid-gold toilets people think they are. ( solid-gold toilet = badass )
Agreed and I'd say the same goes for Akira, a movie which I think is elevated in part due to being cited as the movie that started popularizing anime in the west.

Ausdoerrt said:
Standard size for one season is 24-26 episodes, actually.

Series that have 50+ like Bebop have aired for two seasons or longer.
Bebop is 26 but yes, that's generally true but there are a fair number of series which run for half a standard length season at 12-13 episodes and some which are ongoing (thus not broken into seasons).

I generally sort anime into like and dislike, with my favorite depending on what I feel like watching and prefer to give targeted suggestions rather than general ones. I agree that anime isn't some special vessel of deep plots but I'd say that it seems to have more high points and of greater variety than, say, US TV series (thinking live action in particular but it's true across the board).
 
UncannyGarlic said:
Agreed and I'd say the same goes for Akira, a movie which I think is elevated in part due to being cited as the movie that started popularizing anime in the west.

Not a huge fan of Miyazaki myself, especially because he's too Disney-like, and I prefer my anime to be more adult/serious.

Akira is a great action flick, and if you think back to it it spawned a lot of stereotypes, techniques and cliches that, for better of for worse, were later used in many Japanese and Western movies.
 
Ausdoerrt said:
Not a huge fan of Miyazaki myself, especially because he's too Disney-like, and I prefer my anime to be more adult/serious.
Miyazaki has a place and I enjoy his work for what it is and enjoy a variety of entertainment. Now I haven't seen all of his work but I'd say that Princess Mononoke is his best film and has the best plot. The rest really are family movies through and through and achieve that quite well.

Ausdoerrt said:
Akira is a great action flick, and if you think back to it it spawned a lot of stereotypes, techniques and cliches that, for better of for worse, were later used in many Japanese and Western movies.
It is a great action flick but it's still not a mind blowingly good film. I think that a fair amount of it's problems root in the fact that so much of the story was cut out that it is extremely action heavy and some of the scenes don't make a huge amount of sense or at least aren't clear why they are supposed to be so important. I'm saying that from someone who has never read the manga mind you, so it's not like I know what exactly was cut out, simply where it was cut.
 
For Miyazaki, let me just say that most of his philosophy and values contradict with mine, and let's leave it at that.

For Akira, I guess I'm giving it an easy time because of how long ago it was made and the small budget it was made on. Plus, if you conside that it was basically hand-drawn on cels from frame one to the end (since 3D was unavailable, rare, and too expensive), it still remains an unparalleled work in terms of art and technique quality.

I can understand your complaint however, and do agree that it gets more credit for its initial popularity and social influence rather than the raw quality - the privilege that most other titles don't have.
 
Recently I saw a whole bunch of anime, the best was Code Geass, Black Lagoon, Paranoia Agent and Shigofumi. The worst of the many was Samurai 7 a sf remake of Kurosawas 7 Samurai in which a bunch of katana wielding trannies fight giant robots, avoid at all costs.
 
Recently I support the NK nuclear program, as it's the most plausible nation to nuke Japan, getting rid of Anime forever.
 
You don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg, that defeats the whole purpose of the Kim Shakedown. Without Japan around to extort foreign aid from, who's going to feed and clothe the NK masses? The most honorable, magnificent highness himslef? Heh. Besides, everybody knows that Kim's son/successor loves Tokyo Disney. Never has a regime talked out of both sides of it's mouth as much as the North Koreans.

Pikachu's going to have a longer shelf-life than Kim anyway.


Back OT:
I'm suprsied no Fallout fans like Fist of the North Star. It's somewhat dated but an interesting fusion of Mad Max/Bruce Lee/Conan/New Testament.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Back OT:
I'm suprsied no Fallout fans like Fist of the North Star. It's somewhat dated but an interesting fusion of Mad Max/Bruce Lee/Conan/New Testament.

I used to watch those on some public access show, they are really crazy. There is also a live action version which is quite awful but worth watching for a laugh.

Personally I dont watch any anime series anymore but I love anything that Satoishi Kon does. He does not really do much in the way of action, most of his work is the type of crazy dream stuff that Michael Gondry and Spike Jonze are into. Personally I recomend Perfect Blue (very Hitchcock), Millenium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers and Paranoia Agent. Paprika is not bad but it uses almost the exact same themes as Paranoia Agent, just not as well.
 
lugaru said:
Perfect Blue (very Hitchcock), Millenium Actress
I watched these two recently with my wife, too whimsical and fem-centric for me.

I really don't watch much anime either. But if anyone can recommend something similar to Ghost in the Shell I'd give it a shot. But I appreciate that because it's good, heady sci-fi, not because of any love for anime.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
I really don't watch much anime either. But if anyone can recommend something similar to Ghost in the Shell I'd give it a shot. But I appreciate that because it's good, heady sci-fi, not because of any love for anime.


If you want simply good sf film try Jin-Roh, Akira, Steamboy, Metropolis and Tekkon Kinkreet (not much sf but still a great film).
 
So, reading through this threat the past few days. I acquried A Grave of Fireflies and Ghost in the Shell (the original 1995 one as well as Innocence). However, the most exposure I have to anime, was Titan A.E (a rather bland action-adventure in space), Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within, and Heavy Metal (An old show about a proteganest with gigantic breasts, venturin' through space. Well, if I remember correct . . . It was 1999, afterall).

I quite liked the first Ghost in the Shell for the story arc and the action; I found the ending to be rather quick, and lacking, however. A Grave of Fireflies Started out interesting, died for about 30 minutes, then picked up. Such a tragic tale of (what seemed) a teen's pride over-riding his responsibilty to his sister). As far as Ghost in the Shell: Innocence, is concerned, the use of 3D I found rather bewildering at first, but came to like it -- the story was quite good, despite lacking the major. Both had some great art: A Grave of Fireflies for the background.

What else you fellows recommend?
 
Titan A.E isnt anime. Its yank made, and it was a commercial failure.
75 million $ to make a film like that, and gross revenue was 30 million $.

Well, there is so much anime, that recommending is hard, but if you havent seen cowboy bebop, you should. Its nice sci-fi with small post apoc theme, as humanity has escaped to space after earth became uninhabitable.

Fist of the north star is post-apoc,and decent but in all honesty, i mostly liked the earlier episodes.
 
lols, anime, huh?

I don't really know where to start, but most of the popular stuff lately have been quite lame.

My taste stretches pretty far though.

The two Miyazaki films that I really liked are Porco Rosso and the Valley of the Wind.

Monster is quite good, and it might appeal to all the European fans because of the setting.

GIS:SAC season 1 is good.

Ghost Hound started well, but ending was awkward.

Ghost Hunt was quite fun.

Haijime no Ippo is quite good, but make sure to watch the first season before starting the current one.

Golgo 13 is well, Golgo 13.

Akagi is too manly and too much of an unknown to be quoted by many, but it is good.

Mononoke is pretty good, but it's only for people who have some interest Japanese myth and history.

Perfect Blue aren't bad but only if you are into the Japanese style of mystery.

Jin-Roh was decent.

Hikaru no Go is only for people who get Go though.

Ergo Proxy dragged on for a bit, but very fallout-ish.

Black Lagoon..., lols, gratuitous violence is always fun.

And there is always Tezuka. If you don't know who that is, you might as well stop watching anime. And a lot of his stuff is very fallout-ish because it deals heavily in sci-fi/post apoc.

I'll mention some recent pop corn stuff (you know, you watch it for brainless fun) next time. Anyway, Berserk manga > anime, Akira manga > anime (the manga made more sense/put things together), FMA manga > anime, and...., Mai Hime is great? Did we watch the same thing? :shock: Kannagi wasn't bad, if only for the existentialism questions. Da Cappo should have died a long time ago. I'll not talk about Bebob or Champloo, nor EVA.
 
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