Anyone have idea why New Vegas is already under $20.00?

Ilosar said:
Ugh, this kind of pointless FO vs FO3 ''debate'' again. Suffice to say you will not win any points here with comments like that.
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comments like what?

Ilosar said:
Also, is the use of ''big words'' offending you? We could all speak in absolutes and end sentences with three exclamation points, I am sure this will help communication. Then again, actually reading what others post helps with that too.
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No, the use of big words is not offending me, how would you get that meaning at all? That makes no sense. I am having a logical discussion with Atomkilla and you decide to inject illogical assumptions. Thanks, but no thanks. I can't even respond in any other way because, not only did I read what was in other posts, I quoted it for reference.
 
outofthegamer said:
Once again: your opinion is not everyone's opinion. Stop trying to ram it down throats by calling it a fact.
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This is like the old school Fallout belt of the internet. The whole site and community was built on F1/F2 so you really couldn't find a more concentrated set of opinions.
 
korindabar said:
This is like the old school Fallout belt of the internet. The whole site and community was built on F1/F2 so you really couldn't find a more concentrated set of opinions.
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I guess you're right. I am not here to "win any points", I'm just here to talk about FNV, so I stick to FNV discussion topics because I like that game. I happen to like fallout 3 also. And if I had a chance to play Fallout 1 & 2, I am sure I would love those games too.

My goal was never to challenge the status quo. I just thought Atomkilla's and Quagmire69's extreme difference in a opinion was a bit absurd. :crazy:
 
I've noticed that pretty often games from a studio other than the 'big' or 'original' studio, typically get priced lower sooner.
 
Guiltyofbeingtrite said:
Creed is the best band of the 90s, just look at their album sales!
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I don't like Creed, but saying that they are the best is just as absurd as saying that they are the worst.

And then saying it is a fact, just confuses my logic detection unit.
 
X and Y are the best Z ever, just look at this forum of people who won't disagree!
 
Quagmire69 said:
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Fallout 3 was dumbed-down into a black and white choice between bad and good, Fallout New Vegas makes you question your actions even beyond the ending. Search the FO3 forums and you'll find tones of questions about massive plot holes in FO3.

Also, may I remind you that Fallout 3 was only Fallout 3 when Bethesda bought out Black Isle, before that Fallout 3 was intended (more or less) to be Fallout New Vegas.
 
is so black and white it makes me think Walt Disney rose from the grave and wrote it.
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What about the Pitt. Wasn't that morally ambiguous.

What about the inconsistencies in Vegas. All the talk about hordes of Legion soldiers waiting too pour into the Mojave when how many are their even in the game fifteen? Their are more raiders in Fallout 3 than their are NCR and Legion soldiers put together. Considering that both these factions are supposed too be low quality high numbers factions then why are their less of them then the Enclave or the Brotherhood in other games?

The plot too NV is just awe-full, I felt totally raped of my money. And by plot I don't mean how it complies with cannon, I mean how it sucks the player in. I mean I honestly could not care less who the hell won, I eventually went with the Legion cause they were the least obnoxious.

In Fallout 3 you imminently given a reason too care about the world around you. Your dad leaves, you look for answers, you go too megaton, everywhere you go somehow you get sucked into the story. It was incredibly engaging.

Also and this may seem like I minor theme but their just was not enough horror in Vegas. In Fallout horror was everywhere you went, genocide by plague, genocide by bullet, Andale cannibals, point lookout cults, raiders hanging corpses over bridges. For all the talk of legion brutality what did they do? Enslave five people and crucify four.
 
Quagmire69 said:
What about the inconsistencies in Vegas. All the talk about hordes of Legion soldiers waiting too pour into the Mojave when how many are their even in the game fifteen?
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There's more than 15, but I know what you mean. My best estimate would be a little over 200. Also, its a bit annoying that the game revolves around this big stalemate between the NCR and Legion; and yet the courier can eradicate the entire contingent of the Legion in the Mojave Wasteland... single-handedly!

I guess I just have to turn up the difficulty :smugoticon:
 
You say Fallout 3's plot is better because its more personal, but I fucking hate the dad, he is dumb as hell, he is over complicating how to purify water, not to mention he thinks he can just leave the Vault without anything going wrong? he is a fucking idiot, I have no reason to care that he leaves.
 
UnidentifiedFlyingTard said:
You say Fallout 3's plot is better because its more personal, but I fucking hate the dad, he is dumb as hell, he is over complicating how to purify water, not to mention he thinks he can just leave the Vault without anything going wrong? he is a fucking idiot, I have no reason to care that he leaves.
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But he's your Dad! And he's voiced by Liam Neeson, you can't help but feel some kind of natural desire to find him... and kick his ass for being dumb!
 
UnidentifiedFlyingTard said:
I love Liam Neeson, but I can't help but feel like he didn't care about his performance, like the paycheck was in the other room.
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He sounded sleepy.

Also his lines sucked.

Mostly because the story sucked.

Dude gets a bug up his ass about fixing the silly purifier and runs away for some reason.......because the vault changed from a vault to a "NOBODY LEAVES EVER!" vault because....yeah, even though people at one time did leave, and they let you in because Paps said he was a doctor.....and he learned to super scientist at........yeah.

Then you go jump trough some hoops for the Boy Scouts of Americ.....err I mean The Brotherhood of Steel:Defenders of the Weak and bringers of Justices because......yeah.

Can't even side with the Enclave so the only options of how you want the story to play out is

A: Good Guy.

B: Total Dick for some reason.

Some reason seems to be a running gag in Fallout 3.

Talon Company fights a War with the Super Mutants for some reason. Also act like total jerks for some reason.

Super Mutants were made in a Vault with a modified strain of the FEV virus....for some reason. And for some reason they are looking for something.

Also Somebody said something about the Raiders outnumbering the Legion. What is up with all the Raiders?

You have this 10,000 member Gang called The "Raiders" who raid....really nothing since there is nothing to raid. 2 towns in the entire game. and around 7 villages. And are just kinda all over the god damn place.

Speaking of towns brings us to the nonsense that is rivet city. It is founded by the remnants of some Naval Research Group. Shouldn't it be the remnants of the remnants since those guys would be like 287 years old? Oh that is right, Fallout 3 acts like the bombs dropped 30 years ago and is totally confused with it's own story lines. If it did say it happen 30 years ago instead of 200+ it would make a helluva lot more sense.

But people like to say Fallout 3 has a better story and setting.....for some reason.
 
It drives me insane how anyone cant thin Fallout 3's story is good, its asinine.

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Quagmire69 said:
By the lowest common denominator you mean that the maker made a point of making the game fun and engaging as opposed to needless esoteric shit.
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No, I mean they filled it with the kind of stuff Johnny Average likes: lot of stuff to collect, lot of violence, lot of stuff to shoot at, illusion of depth, lack of consequences, Michael-Bay-esque main quest.

Also could you explain what you mean with "needless esoteric shit"?
 
TheGM said:
Fallout 3 acts like the bombs dropped 30 years ago and is totally confused with it's own story lines. If it did say it happen 30 years ago instead of 200+ it would make a helluva lot more sense.
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I really don't want to defend Fallout 3 on this forum...
*puts up flame shield*
but Washington D.C. would be the the main target of a nuclear attack, and therefore be much more badly damaged and irradiated than The Mojave Desert, which is not a strategic target for a nuclear attack. So, logically, it would take a lot more time for any kind of settlements to spring up.

Not defending the plot-holes, just that one aspect of the Capital Wasteland, compared to the Mojave Wasteland.
 
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