Baldur's Gate Series

Don't be a syntax nazi aka troll. Don't like my accent, don't read my crap. My opinions ain't here for your leisure, it ain't your thread, I'm responding to peoples general lacking knowledge for those who haven't played and is MY opinion. You don't like, *Insert non-caring comment here.*

Moving on, the replay value I guess is subjective. I've found differing things on separate playthroughs of the game thats been changed due to time, class and alignment. I say as well because it is very easy to miss, mess up and otherwise totally skip things. Many of which is in Athkatla (I mistakenly referred to it as Amn earlier).
 
Derajo said:
Don't be a syntax nazi aka troll. Don't like my accent, don't read my crap. My opinions ain't here for your leisure, it ain't your thread, I'm responding to peoples general lacking knowledge for those who haven't played and is MY opinion. You don't like, *Insert non-caring comment here.*
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Ehm, if you post something, people get to comment on it. You don't like it, don't read it. Like, y'know, you're saying right now.
Also, the fact that it is your opinion (which it actually isn't, as there isn't anything subjective about the amount of content that changes upon replays) does not mean that it is a correct opinion.

Also, I wasn't commenting on your phrasing to be a syntax nazi, I was doing that to show a clear distinction between what you said, and the actual truth. Your sentence implied that there was a lot of replay value outside of your group makeup. That's what I was commenting on. There's also nothing trolling about that whatsoever.

Also, technically it *is* my thread, as I'm an admin here.

Derajo said:
Moving on, the replay value I guess is subjective. I've found differing things on separate playthroughs of the game thats been changed due to time, class and alignment. I say as well because it is very easy to miss, mess up and otherwise totally skip things. Many of which is in Athkatla (I mistakenly referred to it as Amn earlier).
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As I said, there is barely any additional content. The things you found were most likely already there in your previous game, you just missed them.
A few things may be phrased differently or presented slightly differently, but they always come down to the same thing.

The exceptions are party interactions, the stronghold quests (which are kind of class-specific, though some classes share stronghold quests), and the choice at the end of chapter 2 which gives you slightly different quests, but doesn't actually have any consequences at all.
 
Edited the title. Couldn't stand seeing this retarded typo any longer.
 
Sander said:
It's how AD&D works. Every class levels up differently.

And ehm, have you tried reading the manual, or playing the tutorial?
You put spells in your memorized spell slots. When you sleep they get memorized, which means you can cast them. You can cast each memorized spell once until you sleep and re-memorize them again.

Again: this all comes up in the manual and tutorial.
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I don't even have the manual. I found the game when browsing through a friend's CD stack, next to his computer. The CD is so scratched I'm surprised it even worked so I'm lucky to have anything at all. I didn't even notice a tutorial...
 
Wow, playing any AD&D game without the manual seems like castration to me, I always have the thing open.
You're pretty much meant to have the thing as a reference, there's even a dozen pages or so reserved for notes that I found useful (I wrote so much I even used up the margins).

Admittedly, it's not so necessary for BG2 since there isn't all that much you need to recall while playing, but for ToEE it was a great help.
 
Well, I'm starting to figure things out, I guess. I do wish I had the manual, if only to look up the effects of my spells. I always forget what they do, and it's a bit of a pain to look them up in the spell book.

Speaking of spells. What are some useful spells to have memorized at all times? Any favorites?

Also, another question, if I may. When it comes to weapons, I know that 1D10 is better than 1D8 because it's more likely to hit right? So, is something like 1D10 better than 2D6? What about 1D8 +1?
 
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No, those are damage rolls. They have nothing to do with being able to hit. 1d8 means that 1 8-sided die is rolled. Ie it comes out anywhere from 1 to 8. 2d6 means that 2 6-sided die are rolled, it comes out anywhere between 2 and 12.

Yeesh, man, you could've just looked up the bare basics of *any* pen and paper role-playing game.
 
maximaz said:
Speaking of spells. What are some useful spells to have memorized at all times? Any favorites?
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I am going to already assume that you are aware of the pure awesomeness that is Spell Trigger, Minor Sequencer, Sequencer, Contingency and Chain Contingency?
 
Also makes sure you have a lot of Spell Protection Removal spells and Dispelling spells.

I now hate the world spell.
 
Sander said:
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Yeesh, man, you could've just looked up the bare basics of *any* pen and paper role-playing game.
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Got it. Thanks for the info on the damage. I forgot that THAC0 was responsible for chance to hit. It's a lot clearer to me now.

As far as pen & paper basics, I've never played any and I didn't know BG 2 used the same system. I know as much about D&D as I do about... you know what I mean. I looked for BG faqs online but found blocks of text that don't explain anything very well.

I expected that having played other crpgs, would enable me to figure the basics out.

Alphadrop
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Thanks, that will come in handy.

Bal-Sagoth
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I don't know if I have any of the spells you've mentioned. I'll definitely keep an eye on them.
 
I have both games and both add-ons, but haven't played either in years. I just installed them both again, and installed Tutu as well. Am I free to uninstall the original installations?

Also, are there any patches or mods you guys recommend I install before I start playing? The only thing other than base installations is ToB patch 26498.
 
I seem to remember that Pierce Magic and Ruby Ray of Reversal were the best anti-protection spells, but I could be overlooking something. I also seem to remember that not all anti-spell measures functioned as advertised.

I could never be bothered to use the Sequencers and Contingencies. It's easy for the computer mages who just have to set these things up once and then be killed.
 
Could someone clarify the following. Say I have a proficiency in long swords (single handed weapon) but I don't have proficiency in single handed weapons. Does it matter if I use a single long sword, a long sword and a shield, or two long swords? I mean, I don't have a proficiency in either of those styles so do I have the same penalties and benefits?
 
maximaz said:
Could someone clarify the following. Say I have a proficiency in long swords (single handed weapon) but I don't have proficiency in single handed weapons. Does it matter if I use a single long sword, a long sword and a shield, or two long swords? I mean, I don't have a proficiency in either of those styles so do I have the same penalties and benefits?
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Erm from what i know theres a nice description of all skills in game so just read it shouldent be a problem...manual i dident read it even if i have 4 manuals from BG+TOC BG2+TOB...

So if you try for example use two long swords with no skill you will swing 2x more but you will prodobly deal less damage than with 1 long sword that you got skill...so use weapons that your skilled with...

Any way my last game i was as Wild Mage so i might be wrong im not fighter type but use weapon that your most skilled in :)

Any way i would love to play game for 100x but maybe with a mod any recomendations? also i dont want orginal story line to change i just want BG2+TOB expanded new enemies,locations,npcs,speels and so on... :)
 
I don't think you understood what I was asking. Of course it's better to use weapons you're skilled in. I'm asking what it would mean for my character if I had profficiency in long swords but not in single weapons, or sword and shield, or dual wielding. Does it make a difference then which of those styles I use long swords in?
 
maximaz said:
I don't think you understood what I was asking. Of course it's better to use weapons you're skilled in. I'm asking what it would mean for my character if I had profficiency in long swords but not in single weapons, or sword and shield, or dual wielding. Does it make a difference then which of those styles I use long swords in?
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Hm to tell you truth i dont remember so im installing game so i can answear you...but this will take a while its from CDs...

Edit:Ok there are 4 group skills one handed,two handed,dual wielding and sword + shield if you dont give any point there well you dont get bonus and theres no bad modifiers if you dont got single point there...

How ever bow,dagger,long sword skills if you dont got single point and you use this weapon you got a penalty so at least 1 point in there and secound one will give you bonus...

Any way like i said its all in discription...i got polish language and its all explained...plus the voices are great i heard eng voices on youtube and they suck...its like gothic in eng insted of ger...funny thing BGII is native eng and still it sucks...just little thing i noticed :)
 
Farmerk said:
I have both games and both add-ons, but haven't played either in years. I just installed them both again, and installed Tutu as well. Am I free to uninstall the original installations?

Also, are there any patches or mods you guys recommend I install before I start playing? The only thing other than base installations is ToB patch 26498.
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I have few first I suggest finishing the game using Tactics mod . IF you have managed to beat that, you can pat yourself on the back for a job well done.

Then there is also Ascension another fine mod from Westley Weimer. Anyway I got most my mods from Forgotten Wars, ups I mean Spellhold Studios, how time fly's. My advice use the mods that compliment you play style and char class thus avoiding cluttering up mods that you rarely use. Reason I mention this is there are a lot of Mods to BG2 and some of them don't kick in until certain point.

Link to Spellhold Studios
 
gregor_y said:
Hm to tell you truth i dont remember so im installing game so i can answear you...but this will take a while its from CDs...
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Wow, you didn't have to do that but I very much appreciate it. Thanks for clarifying things for me, it all makes sense now.

BTW, what do you guys think about the console BG games? Are they worth a look?
 
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