Bethesda forums hacked again

[WorstUsernameEver]

Judging by the e-mail I (and presumably everyone else registered) received from Bethesda, their forums have been hacked. It goes without saying that if you're registered there and using the same password anywhere else, you should change those passwords too too, just as Bethesda itself reminds us:<blockquote>Dear Bethesda Forum User,

We have identified a potential breach of our forum user database that occurred Friday morning, Aug 12. We have reset your forum password as a precaution, in the event that any encrypted forum user passwords were compromised.

When you next try to login to the forums, your old password will not work. Click the "I've forgotten my password link" underneath the login boxes, and follow the steps to setup a new password for your account.

We recommend you do not use your old password or a password you have used for other sites. Further, if your old forum password was used for any other online purposes, we recommend changing the password on those accounts as well.

If you have any concerns, visit the following link:
http://www.bethsoft.com/eng/contact_email.php</blockquote>You'll probably remember that this is not the first time Bethesda's forums are hacked, as the group LulzSec was behind a similar "breach". There doesn't seem to be any information on who conducted the attack this time, but the fact that Bethesda's forums have been hacked again certainly doesn't inspire a lot of trust in the measures they've taken to prevent this kind of circumstances from repeating themselves.

Thanks, Ausir.

 

[ViewedCloth]

Oh crap! Now I have to change it again!

 

[WelcomeToNewReno]

So they sue everyone in sight and are too incompetent to stop their forum from being hacked twice?

It stuns me how people still like these guys.

 

[Elven6]

I wonder if this is connected to the Minecraft/Notch thing?

 

[warsaw]

I wonder if this is connected to the Minecraft/Notch thing?

why would it? notch wishes no ill will towards 'em.

 

[generalissimofurioso]

Hacknerds don't care.

They all think they're hot shit in a champagne flute acting like V for Vendetta.

In reality, they're basically just cold diarrhea in a Dixie cup.

 

[Elven6]

I wonder if this is connected to the Minecraft/Notch thing?

why would it? notch wishes no ill will towards 'em.

An angry fan or maybe someone just using it as an event? Remember, a lot of the stuff Sony went through was as a result of the court stuff. It's all just speculation on my end really.

 

[Sabirah]

I wonder if this is connected to the Minecraft/Notch thing?

why would it? notch wishes no ill will towards 'em.

People who are fans of things generally are not the wisest bunch.

 

[Alphadrop]

People who are fans of things generally are not the wisest bunch.

Thus spake Sabirah on a fan forum.

 

[Sabirah]

People who are fans of things generally are not the wisest bunch.

Thus spake Sabirah on a fan forum.

You do have a point.

Okay what I meant was that people who are obsessively fans of things are not to wise. As they

A. Cannot understand how people can disagree with them

B. Have a crusader like fervor in relation to their favorite things. (I.E if the thing they like is criticized, they act like someone just sent their mother a death threat)

 

[Korin]

That's a shame, but this could happen to any company really. Doubt they hired any outside company to audit their site the first time it was hacked and probably just fixed that particular hole. The people who run the forum are probably disconnected from most of Bethesda as a whole anyway.

 

[Lexx]

People who are worshipper of a religion generally are not the wisest bunch.

Thus spake Sabirah on a religious forum.

You do have a point.

Okay what I meant was that people who are obsessively worshipper of a religion are not to wise. As they

A. Cannot understand how people can disagree with them

B. Have a crusader like fervor in relation to their favorite religion. (I.E if the thing they like is criticized, they act like someone just sent their mother a death threat)

Heh, I just had to.

 

[Sabirah]

Thus spake Sabirah on a religious forum.

You do have a point.

Okay what I meant was that people who are obsessively worshipper of a religion are not to wise. As they

A. Cannot understand how people can disagree with them

B. Have a crusader like fervor in relation to their favorite religion. (I.E if the thing they like is criticized, they act like someone just sent their mother a death threat)

Heh, I just had to.

Well, even I will admit that you are right. That goes for anyone that takes anything about them too seriously

 

[phildog]

Don't LulzSec hackers use fairly basic techniques like brute forcing and MSQL injections? If this job was executed in a similar manner I would be surprised. To think that IPB was so insecure; it is a bit unsettling.

Okay what I meant was that people who are obsessively fans of things are not to wise. As they

A. Cannot understand how people can disagree with them

B. Have a crusader like fervor in relation to their favorite things. (I.E if the thing they like is criticized, they act like someone just sent their mother a death threat)

I believe you are very much confused about the difference between fandom and extremism. The fundamental difference being commitment to fiction or a game and commitment to an ideal.

Fans understand that what they love is fiction, and ultimately any importance assigned to it is superfluous and arbitrarily assigned. Not only are they often open to criticism of the subject they love, but they can at times be the harshest critics. For example, fallout fans. They also will always admit that what they love is ultimately of relatively no importance at all when compared with contemporary issues such as poverty, gay rights, or a war criminal who use to be heads of state of a once respected and powerful nation that rhymes with Untitled Fate of Jam Erica.

Extremists on the other hand aren't open to any contestation or investigation, that may lead to evidence that their ideals are a fabrication. They also believe that what they hold up as important is the most importand ideal in the world. They believe this because they often feel that their ideals are the ideal and that everyone should follow them. That all or most important problems in the world comes from the deviation away from these ideals. That for the sake of one own well being, and the well being of everyone else, everyone must be made to live by them, by force if necessary. This is the source of systems touting "Shira Law" and "Family Values" and their respective support groups such as the Taliban and the Family Research Council. Also, Ironically diametrically opposed moments such as reconstructionism and constitutionalism also fit this billing.

It's also worth noting that extremism usually is fueled by massive injustice or poverty, and political or religious ideas are usually used as a rallying point. For example, if it weren't for the massive debt insured during WW2 the Nazis would have come to power, and if it weren't for pretty much everyone from the US, to the Brits, to the Russians fucking with the middle east there wouldn't be the level of turmoil there is there today.

 

[Brother None]

Okay what I meant was that people who are obsessively fans of things are not to wise. As they

A. Cannot understand how people can disagree with them

B. Have a crusader like fervor in relation to their favorite things. (I.E if the thing they like is criticized, they act like someone just sent their mother a death threat)

That's awfully convenient and dismissive. Rather than focusing on "is this topic important enough to be upset about", it is more useful to accept that everyone frames the world in his/her own personal biases, even if they don't agree with yours.

I am bemused often enough by the behavior of fervid fans, but I won't be dismissive of it. As long as there is positive energy to it, it is just disrespectful to shrug it off. That's why that attitude annoys me from the producers of said material or media, in particular. It's just too easy a way to confirm your own biases.

 

[Sabirah]

That's awfully convenient and dismissive. Rather than focusing on "is this topic important enough to be upset about", it is more useful to accept that everyone frames the world in his/her own personal biases, even if they don't agree with yours.

I am bemused often enough by the behavior of fervid fans, but I won't be dismissive of it. As long as there is positive energy to it, it is just disrespectful to shrug it off. That's why that attitude annoys me from the producers of said material or media, in particular. It's just too easy a way to confirm your own biases.

That may be true but they shouldn't be so offended by so many things. Hit up something with a strong "Nerd" fanbase like anime websites or TGWTG. Most of the people there are very nice and friendly people who simply enjoy what is on the site. However, there will always be that guy/girl who cannot take any sort of criticism. That sort of stuff is bad because it makes the people who make stuff think that they are infallible, that they can just make the same things over and over again. Don't get me wrong I like tons of things as they are but that does not mean that I don't wan't them to change at all ever.

 

[Brother None]

I would say that's an element of human nature exacerbated by the anonymity of the internet, not an element of fandom. It's hard to accept you have no control over something you invest so much energy in.

 

[Walpknut]

Good thing I don't have accounts in places that ask me for sensitive information before making my account.