Bethesda publishing Rage

Wait, so you guys were fine supporting EA but not Zenimax? In what way is one better than the other?
 
maximaz said:
Wait, so you guys were fine supporting EA but not Zenimax? In what way is one better than the other?
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Don't think many here supports EA. But support it over ZeniMax. Just another incarnation of the Herve vs. Bethesda dilemma.

And since you asked, EA has developed and published enjoyable games. Also in a less related note - it hasn't crapped over Fallout.
 
If nothing else, EA was the publisher of Wasteland. I know it is ancient history, but if you need a tiebreaker, go with that.
 
I stopped buying products slapped with the EA stamp of approval a few years ago. I'm shocked that some people think it is fine to keep supporting a company that pumps out shitty games or games that are not well supported by their developer after release(i.e. patches).

This is a free market, if a company is doing something you dislike you need to speak up with your wallet or they will just continue to take advantage of you every year. This is why the gaming industry is constantly pumping out shittier and shittier games every year. People are just accepting of crap and continue to dish out the money to support bad companies. I supposed they are just waiting for the one good game they release, but does that really justify supporting a company's release of 10 bad games in order to get 1 good game?

Remember that company called interplay that released Brotherhood of steel and was schedule to release a sequel in order to fund a game called Fallout 3? When companies start taking advantage of consumers by releasing crap and make money off of it, they will continue to do so.

Anyway, it's your choice to support a purveyor of shit or not. How much is an unsupported game worth to you?
 
yeah i said awhile back they wouldn't get anymore of my money and i'm sticking with it.
its not that they made f3 so crappy. heck oblivion had me turned off to them as being a decent rpg developer.
its mostly their attitude, how they treat fans, and just how generally they are craptastic as a company.
 
Paul_cz said:
while Beth ain't perfect, I still like them, so no problem there.
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Ain't perfect is an interesting statement.

Name one good non-inhouse game Bethesda published.
 
I liked the first part of call of cthulhu (dark corners...). The game felt totally rushed the latter parts though, ending up as a mindless shooter. And the 2003 pirates of the caribbean game was... mildly entertaining.

Still, call of cthulhu definitely had the potential for greatness.
 
Deadman87 said:
The game felt totally rushed the latter parts though, ending up as a mindless shooter.
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And other than slow developers not living up to deadlines, who is usually responsible for development being rushed?

I give you a hint, it starts with "pub" and doesn't involve beer.
 
OakTable said:
You'd want something to financially ruin a large amount of people's lives due to a petty rage over a video game series' sequel that you view as lackluster?
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You'd want to keep supporting garbage so some people can have jobs?
 
UniversalWolf said:
OakTable said:
You'd want something to financially ruin a large amount of people's lives due to a petty rage over a video game series' sequel that you view as lackluster?
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You'd want to keep supporting garbage so some people can have jobs?
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In extremis, both attitudes are wrong.

There's nothing wrong with choosing to boycott a company if you believe what they produce is crap, or if you disagree with their methods, or whatever. There's nothing "petty" about it, it's called voting with your wallet, and it's a cornerstone of capitalism.

However, choose your motives carefully. Bethesda has proven to be a consistently crappy publisher and that's why I don't support them, but keep in mind that they're still just a company, and bearing grudges to companies as if they were people is silly.

The whole "but the jobs!" line of argumentation is just a cheap appeal to emotion. If people in an entertainment industry don't produce something I want, I have no reason to care about their jobs. Again, that's the nature of capitalism.
 
And the 2003 pirates of the caribbean game was... mildly entertaining.
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And the original Sea Dogs (PotC was actually originally named Sea Dogs 2 but was rushed and renamed to coincide with the movie).
 
So basicaly how I see it is- because of Beth being the publisher (based on their previous published games), the game will be rushed and for that- buggy or somehow unfinished, to live up to its potential (if there's gonna be a potential at all).
 
Those guys at bethesda making the publishing choices is not capable of seeing quality even if it stabbed them in the eyes. I wonder if they even care about games beeing good or not (no I don't, I know they just think about the sales).

They are the McDonalds of gaming publishers (and now it seems, gaming developers as well).
 
Brother None said:
UniversalWolf said:
OakTable said:
You'd want something to financially ruin a large amount of people's lives due to a petty rage over a video game series' sequel that you view as lackluster?
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You'd want to keep supporting garbage so some people can have jobs?
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In extremis, both attitudes are wrong.

There's nothing wrong with choosing to boycott a company if you believe what they produce is crap, or if you disagree with their methods, or whatever. There's nothing "petty" about it, it's called voting with your wallet, and it's a cornerstone of capitalism.

However, choose your motives carefully. Bethesda has proven to be a consistently crappy publisher and that's why I don't support them, but keep in mind that they're still just a company, and bearing grudges to companies as if they were people is silly.

The whole "but the jobs!" line of argumentation is just a cheap appeal to emotion. If people in an entertainment industry don't produce something I want, I have no reason to care about their jobs. Again, that's the nature of capitalism.
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You make good points but I think that his argument was that it is petty to have such enorous hatred against a videogame company and wish to see it die. Because in that case the regular folks working there will be needlessly hurt. But I don't think he was saying that this is ample reason to blindly purchase their products..

Or maybe that's just my opinion :wink:

Regardless,

The fundamental question remains:

Support ID Software or boycott Zenimax?
Your choice. Choose wisely. Your choices will have consequences(or not)....
 
Verd1234 said:
Support ID Software or boycott Zenimax?
Your choice. Choose wisely. Your choices will have consequences(or not)....
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Yeah people around here hated me for boycotting bethesda and zenimax. but then i gave some water to a homeless man that lives outside the perimeter that they won't let in here, and now i'm the golden child of the city again.

anyway, i gotta run, i told the girl that runs a local business around here that i would get hit by a car so she could she how badly i'm hurt by it. hopefully i'll get a free mocha out of it once i've recovered. ;)
 
Verd1234 said:
Support ID Software or boycott Zenimax?
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

I love id Software but I hate Bethesda/Zenimax. :?

I died a little inside when I heard Zenimax bought id. :(
 
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