Bethesda Vs. Black Isle: Sex, Brats, And Addiction

I can't believe all the people who find the humour in FO3 funny.

 

Why do they think that VATS is turnbased?

 

Because there are percentages and junk.

ZOMGTURNBASED!

 

Why do they want us to accept it as a substitute?

It worries me that more games will follow with this...bastardization. I like the VATS mode, but I weep for the turnbased combat loss.

 

Well, except for grand strategy games like Civ4.

 

I have been under my rock, where else?

No, but srsly. I know the state of TB combat (in RPGs), but I still miss it. And I really miss it in Fallout.

 

And King's Bounty, which can be considered an RPG of sorts, but not an AAA title.

Also in the vein of JA, you have Silent Storm and its spinoffs. Seems like most of the decent turn-based games are coming from Russian devs.

 

...and from Japan and on handhelds.

 

So Tactics in real-time is turn-based now?

 

King's Bounty is neither AAA nor American.

Actually, they did call that mode "continuous turn based".

 

The day I call tactics combats "Turn based" (in the sense of real turn based JA/Fallout 1/2 like) combat I will hit my self with a hammer in the head. It had some TB gameplay next to real time. But it was shortened in favour for real time.

Fallout 3 had nothing from Turn Based combat. And I miss this kind of gameplay cause even in modern times it could be done very well. It has not "died" it has been murdered by the AAA industry.

 

Tactics had a true TB mode, and the game was a lot better when you used it, in my opinion.

 

TB or "continuous turn based", it was better than VATS for sure.

 

Wait. They couldn't find a decent atmosphere piece from Fallout 3 to match Fallout's power armour helmet and had to use Fallout 2's?

Did anybody else have to do a double-take there?

EDIT: This article is full of stuff like that, actually:

No, they didn't. They made up names to match those of the originals for the real life drugs they originally intended. They used some of the original drug names, too, but those never were being complained about in the first place.

Not quite. Even if you LIKE Bethesda's approach to humour, you'd have to agree that there's a difference between the "Haha, just serious" approach of Fallout 1 (and, to a lesser extent, Fallout 2) and the downright surrealist satire in Fallout 3.

Reading this, you might believe Fallout 3 used the same system Fallout 1+2 used, just with easier controls (say, an aim-lock for clicking on your opponents, or big shiny buttons for things like aimed shots, burst mode etc). Once again a reviewer who thinks the "turn" in "turn based" is defined as "it's my turn now", i.e. Matrix-style pause mode. Note how the enemies "turns" in VATS are non-existent and "turns" in the game are not sequential.

Say what? BIS kept you from venturing into parts that are far too dangerous? Disregarding that Fallout 1 was made by Interplay, not BIS, neither FO1 nor FO2 prevented you from going to the military base / Navarro and getting your ass handed to you. Arguably, this may be true for FO3, but then this is a moot point as there would then be NOTHING in place in BIS's and Beth's games and you can't really copy a nothing. Badly written or just patent nonsense?

Right. Because Fallout only ever was defined by Dogmeat, right? Fallout 2 was often criticised for being more of a theme park than a consistent setting, but Fallout 3 seems to try and be better and greater at EVERYTHING, even at being an inconsistent collection of Fallout memorabilia. At least Dogmeat's appearance in FO2 was somewhat justified.

From what I remember, Fallout 1 had such a crappy party system because it wasn't intended to have one and the hack-job was added as a last minute decision. In fact, neither the endings in Fallout 1 nor in Fallout 2 really expected you to take any companions -- and most importantly neither game forced you into it. The core concept here is being the Lone Wanderer -- and that's why Dogmeat worked so well in Fallout 1: it's just a random mutt you picked up and who WILL die eventually because he's just so weak and defenseless. You get attached to him for sentimental reasons, not because he's cool to have around.

 

*seconded, furiously*

 

I wept when he died. No seriously, I restarted the game at least 10 times trying to keep my pooch alive. Damn raiders...

 

I can't believe all the people who find humor in FO3.

 

Well, "Welcome to Megaton. The bomb is perfectly safe, we promise." did make me smirk. It also made me uninstall the game 3 minutes after.