Bit-Tech.net: Fallout should be remastered?

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Goweigus said:
It'd be really cool to play Fallout in new graphics. I see no reason why Bethesda or anyone cant make a great Fallout game in Turn-based combat with next-gen (or current) graphics ( though there excuse would probably be something like "Well thats just not the way we do things, we wanted to make a cRPG Fallout with similar combat to Oblivion). it'd be allot like Silent Storm (someone has mentioned this before) or even Final Fantasy has run on turn-based. The big difference would be we'd be blowing peoples brains out with guns before they even got heir turn :P Maybe even sneak some cinematic killing action (also ike someone mentioned before). Itd be cool.... k enough rambling on my part.... (sry if this is straying a bit off topic)
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Here's how the videogame industry works:

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A high-resolution support is needed. Don't like 3D cause it will take away the art-and-feel of sprite animation.

But taking away turn-based = taking away the ruleset(SPECIAL) =
taking away the game core = another diablo-clone in wasteland candy wrapper. :roll:

Real-time combat with SPECIAL = turd gameplay (like Fallout: Tactics)
 
I'd like to play them in higher resolutions with a few fixes and better interface. 640x480 is terrible on most monitors. Fallout 2 with the Patcher set at 1024x768 is pretty damn sweet (aside from the bugs). Almost TOEE level of quality.
 
"As original and involving as the game is, its isometric, tile-based graphics are a bit hard on the eyes."

WTF! isometric graphics are too hard on the eyes? what is he implying? that isometric graphics are outdated? what a !@#$%!

I think this person is a Beth agent sent here to induce us the thought that Beth fucking up the isometric style is something good.

a new paint coat? leave it be I say. more talking heads? what do you want! talking heads extravaganza?

other gameplay resolutions? I say that Planescape: Torment is much more in need for that than Fallout.

If someone has time and energy for this new paint coat, maybe they should tweak Fallout to optimize it to work perfecty on multiple OS, to resolve the sound problems that arise on the newer sytems and so on.


I remember reading somewhere that there was a short movie in Fallout 2 when you were taking the car for the first time but was flushed out for esthetic rerasons. does anyone knows what happened to this ingame movie? I would very much want to see it.
 
I don't think a remake of FO is needed. Everyone here after having finished FO a lot of times wouldnt feel like playing it just because graphics are better. It may just bring more fans to the game, but we would have to consider only kids that never played FO and aren't Oblivion fanboys so it's just not worth it.

A totally new good game is neded
 
Fallout has aged rather well, so I don't really see the need for a remake.
I played it at the first time in 2005 or so, so I had no nostalgia bonus playing it, and its graphics and interace mechanics were still ok.

And those are the two critical things in old games, graphics and interface. For example Return to Krondor, both are unbarable these days for me. So there are definetly some great games I'd like to see a purely technical remake of.

Although, a Fallout remake refreshing the graphics a bit and slightly improving the already existing concepts of the game with the help of modern technology would be pretty nice, but as I said not necessery.
 
DarkLegacy said:
A redesigned Fallout 1 [by capable hands] would be leagues above the crapterpeice called Fallout 3 currently being excreted by Bethesda at the moment. :?
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I disagree, Fallout 3 is being developed by a team of professionals that have a lead designer who sleeps with Fallout Bible under his pillow and promised to stick very closely to the main plot. I believe he won't fall astray, follow the main plot and create a masterpiece. The team is very capable as TES4: Oblivion and an upcoming expansion pack show us, and once it's finished all the attention will be redirected to Fallout 3.
 
Temaperacle said:
[The team is very capable as TES4: Oblivion and an upcoming expansion pack show us, and once it's finished all the attention will be redirected to Fallout 3.
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Unless you're being sarcastic, read all the pages in the Bethesda/Fallout-related threads currently up in the News Section, and see the response and reasoning when facing views such as what you wrote. It will save time for everybody here :)
 
Temaperacle said:
I disagree, Fallout 3 is being developed by a team of professionals that have a lead designer who sleeps with Fallout Bible under his pillow and promised to stick very closely to the main plot. I believe he won't fall astray, follow the main plot and create a masterpiece. The team is very capable as TES4: Oblivion and an upcoming expansion pack show us, and once it's finished all the attention will be redirected to Fallout 3.
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Yeah, that's neat. Now can you try to learn to read some of the stuff that's been posted, I don't know, during the past day or so?
 
Temaperacle said:
DarkLegacy said:
A redesigned Fallout 1 [by capable hands] would be leagues above the crapterpeice called Fallout 3 currently being excreted by Bethesda at the moment. :?
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I disagree, Fallout 3 is being developed by a team of professionals that have a lead designer who sleeps with Fallout Bible under his pillow and promised to stick very closely to the main plot. I believe he won't fall astray, follow the main plot and create a masterpiece. The team is very capable as TES4: Oblivion and an upcoming expansion pack show us, and once it's finished all the attention will be redirected to Fallout 3.
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Masterpiece, maybe. Master-piece-of-shit, definetly.
 
Guess he wasn't sarcastic after all. They (bethesda producers) actually are sleeping with the FB under their pillow, they just can't get past the caravans.

OHHH OMG LOOK! Merchant wagon!
 
I wouldn't mind seeing a remastered Fallout 1/2 with a new graphics engine ( Titan Quest maybe? ) as long as it preserved the game's storyline and mechanics ( turn-based combat ).

I'd pay full retail price if the release contained Fallout 1/2.

As for Fallout 3. Well Oblivion was quite a technical achievement but the loss of the turn-based combat is going to be a bitter pill to swallow.

Or will the new game maintain the classic mechanics/perspective but just have a fancy new graphics engine?

Probably, as the old-school fans are dreading, it will be Oblivion with guns.
 
You guys are aware of the fact that they can't make game with a 2D engine and tiles insted of 3D models with textures? A 2D game wouldn't sell enough these days to give you profit. Technology have moved on, and so have the market. Think of graphics something like CoH, it doesn't look to bad to me, I could play a Fallout game with similar cameramodes.

But both of the Fallout games deserves a remake.
 
Erm, isometric is not the same as 2d.

Also, that's yet another bullshit argument. 'Technology have moved on.' Pschyeah.
 
In 1997, the Fallout games were not behind on the grafics...I don't really know though I never played a good rpg without isometric view.

And seriously doubt first person RPGs.
 
Smoke_Jaguar said:
In 1997, the Fallout games were not behind on the grafics...I don't really know though I never played a good rpg without isometric view.
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Fallout was not only "not behind" on the graphic, but also it had very good graphics for it's times.
Also, IMO 3d graphics and animations tend to look less natural than 2d ones.
 
Sorrow said:
Also, IMO 3d graphics and animations tend to look less natural than 2d ones.
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Tis rather obvious. Take a look at Broken Sword series. The new ones don't look half as natural as Shadow of the Templars or Smoking Mirror.
st0lve said:
Technology have moved on, and so have the market.
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So? Does that mean that nowadays even Solitaire has to have bump mapping, ragdoll and realistic physics system?
>origami< said:
I wouldn't mind seeing a remastered Fallout 1/2
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I would. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
Well... Whenever they try to make a 3D isometric sequel to an existing 2D isometric game they tend to fuck up. Commandos 2? Desperados 2(not that focused on isometric but...)? Anyone???

Sorrow said:
Also, IMO 3d graphics and animations tend to look less natural than 2d ones.
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My thoughts exactly!!! Anyone remember Legend Of Kyrandia's intro movie?

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It seems ironic that with all the next-gen graphixxx they are still not able to capture the "naturality" of a(n outdated) game (with outdated graphics) made in 1992 has to offer...
 
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