Bit-Tech.net: Fallout should be remastered?

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Brother None, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. Dracon M'Alkir

    Dracon M'Alkir Vault Senior Citizen

    Jul 19, 2004
    Re: Well

    Here's how the videogame industry works:

    Gameplay________ Graphics
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    ^Fallout
     
  2. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    A high-resolution support is needed. Don't like 3D cause it will take away the art-and-feel of sprite animation.

    But taking away turn-based = taking away the ruleset(SPECIAL) =
    taking away the game core = another diablo-clone in wasteland candy wrapper. :roll:

    Real-time combat with SPECIAL = turd gameplay (like Fallout: Tactics)
     
  3. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

    520
    Jan 12, 2004
    I'd like to play them in higher resolutions with a few fixes and better interface. 640x480 is terrible on most monitors. Fallout 2 with the Patcher set at 1024x768 is pretty damn sweet (aside from the bugs). Almost TOEE level of quality.
     
  4. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    There is a tweak for Fallout 2? :shock:
     
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
    Orderite

    Apr 3, 2003
    Yip
     
  6. Grotesque

    Grotesque It Wandered In From the Wastes

    168
    Oct 16, 2006
    "As original and involving as the game is, its isometric, tile-based graphics are a bit hard on the eyes."

    WTF! isometric graphics are too hard on the eyes? what is he implying? that isometric graphics are outdated? what a !@#$%!

    I think this person is a Beth agent sent here to induce us the thought that Beth fucking up the isometric style is something good.

    a new paint coat? leave it be I say. more talking heads? what do you want! talking heads extravaganza?

    other gameplay resolutions? I say that Planescape: Torment is much more in need for that than Fallout.

    If someone has time and energy for this new paint coat, maybe they should tweak Fallout to optimize it to work perfecty on multiple OS, to resolve the sound problems that arise on the newer sytems and so on.


    I remember reading somewhere that there was a short movie in Fallout 2 when you were taking the car for the first time but was flushed out for esthetic rerasons. does anyone knows what happened to this ingame movie? I would very much want to see it.
     
  7. globbi

    globbi It Wandered In From the Wastes

    115
    Aug 13, 2006
    I don't think a remake of FO is needed. Everyone here after having finished FO a lot of times wouldnt feel like playing it just because graphics are better. It may just bring more fans to the game, but we would have to consider only kids that never played FO and aren't Oblivion fanboys so it's just not worth it.

    A totally new good game is neded
     
  8. bonanza

    bonanza It Wandered In From the Wastes

    100
    May 1, 2006
    Fallout has aged rather well, so I don't really see the need for a remake.
    I played it at the first time in 2005 or so, so I had no nostalgia bonus playing it, and its graphics and interace mechanics were still ok.

    And those are the two critical things in old games, graphics and interface. For example Return to Krondor, both are unbarable these days for me. So there are definetly some great games I'd like to see a purely technical remake of.

    Although, a Fallout remake refreshing the graphics a bit and slightly improving the already existing concepts of the game with the help of modern technology would be pretty nice, but as I said not necessery.
     
  9. Temaperacle

    Temaperacle First time out of the vault

    4
    Dec 16, 2006
    I disagree, Fallout 3 is being developed by a team of professionals that have a lead designer who sleeps with Fallout Bible under his pillow and promised to stick very closely to the main plot. I believe he won't fall astray, follow the main plot and create a masterpiece. The team is very capable as TES4: Oblivion and an upcoming expansion pack show us, and once it's finished all the attention will be redirected to Fallout 3.
     
  10. Hellion

    Hellion Antediluvian Lurker

    450
    Jun 20, 2003

    Unless you're being sarcastic, read all the pages in the Bethesda/Fallout-related threads currently up in the News Section, and see the response and reasoning when facing views such as what you wrote. It will save time for everybody here :)
     
  11. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    Yeah, that's neat. Now can you try to learn to read some of the stuff that's been posted, I don't know, during the past day or so?
     
  12. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    Masterpiece, maybe. Master-piece-of-shit, definetly.
     
  13. Smoke_Jaguar

    Smoke_Jaguar Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    313
    Mar 23, 2006
    Guess he wasn't sarcastic after all. They (bethesda producers) actually are sleeping with the FB under their pillow, they just can't get past the caravans.

    OHHH OMG LOOK! Merchant wagon!
     
  14. >origami<

    >origami< First time out of the vault

    14
    Jan 22, 2007
    I wouldn't mind seeing a remastered Fallout 1/2 with a new graphics engine ( Titan Quest maybe? ) as long as it preserved the game's storyline and mechanics ( turn-based combat ).

    I'd pay full retail price if the release contained Fallout 1/2.

    As for Fallout 3. Well Oblivion was quite a technical achievement but the loss of the turn-based combat is going to be a bitter pill to swallow.

    Or will the new game maintain the classic mechanics/perspective but just have a fancy new graphics engine?

    Probably, as the old-school fans are dreading, it will be Oblivion with guns.
     
  15. st0lve

    st0lve Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    316
    Nov 14, 2004
    You guys are aware of the fact that they can't make game with a 2D engine and tiles insted of 3D models with textures? A 2D game wouldn't sell enough these days to give you profit. Technology have moved on, and so have the market. Think of graphics something like CoH, it doesn't look to bad to me, I could play a Fallout game with similar cameramodes.

    But both of the Fallout games deserves a remake.
     
  16. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    Erm, isometric is not the same as 2d.

    Also, that's yet another bullshit argument. 'Technology have moved on.' Pschyeah.
     
  17. Smoke_Jaguar

    Smoke_Jaguar Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    313
    Mar 23, 2006
    In 1997, the Fallout games were not behind on the grafics...I don't really know though I never played a good rpg without isometric view.

    And seriously doubt first person RPGs.
     
  18. Sorrow

    Sorrow So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Feb 9, 2006
    Fallout was not only "not behind" on the graphic, but also it had very good graphics for it's times.
    Also, IMO 3d graphics and animations tend to look less natural than 2d ones.
     
  19. Sarcastro

    Sarcastro First time out of the vault

    22
    Jan 26, 2007
    Tis rather obvious. Take a look at Broken Sword series. The new ones don't look half as natural as Shadow of the Templars or Smoking Mirror.
    So? Does that mean that nowadays even Solitaire has to have bump mapping, ragdoll and realistic physics system?
    I would. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
  20. Endless Void

    Endless Void It Wandered In From the Wastes

    101
    Apr 10, 2005
    Well... Whenever they try to make a 3D isometric sequel to an existing 2D isometric game they tend to fuck up. Commandos 2? Desperados 2(not that focused on isometric but...)? Anyone???

    My thoughts exactly!!! Anyone remember Legend Of Kyrandia's intro movie?



    It seems ironic that with all the next-gen graphixxx they are still not able to capture the "naturality" of a(n outdated) game (with outdated graphics) made in 1992 has to offer...