Black Lives Matter

Is it iPhone in hand of that dude in the first video? He's really insisting that all white persons have to be beaten up whilst he's basically choking on Jobs' cock? The irony..
 
That's racist. You're gonna get this thread locked, whitey.

Look at this fucking conspiracy nut trying to spin the narrative...
 
valcik said:
What rubs me the wrong way is that there are couple of hundreds people shot by American police every year. White, red, yellow, black, and perhaps even green or pink! If any true American sees this as some injustice being committed by American government on fellow Americans, he should have protested against this injustice as a whole. Trying to exclude just black folks from the process without giving any shit about other folks seems to be pretty much racist to me.
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For some reason, people think that turning something to a race issue makes it a bigger issue. If it really is a race issue, it does touch on people's inherit idea of fairness. However, you will lose credibility if you can't prove it. Or not considering how Today's society is.
 
Ah the Rebel, good Canadian reporting right there. And if I was not married.....

But as far as the BLM movement, these BLM people are the racist now. It is no longer about equality which for the most part has been met, its about punishment and justice for things they were done before most of these people are born. And as far as the African Americans getting shot, well some of these were justified, some not. I mean we have stories of guys beating the crap out of the cop and running away, well Fuck! I would shoot too, skin colour would not matter to me one bit, the fact the guy assaulted a cop should say something though. How about the convicted felon fighting with cops after refusing to be searched when the cops have reports he was waving a handgun around (which being a convicted felon he should not have had, but yeah gun control works hahaha).

There has been some very bad situations too, cops shooting little kids with pellet guns, cops shooting legal concealed carry owners. The cops do need more non-violent solutions, but that's a training issue (for everyone, cops need to learn to de-escalate, people need to teach there kids to listen to that cop yelling at you, not that the cop is a bad guy, and the concealed carry holders need to deal with cops in a very specific way to make sure that everyone feels safe (both the cop, and the civilian).

There could be some culture issues too, I mean I am not one to say that music and movies will make you go kill someone, but they do seem to put the rose coloured glasses on the whole gang/fuck the police thing.
 
Honestly, both sides could either make peace, or they can all kts.

I've had enough of this non-enthusiastic news.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Then why dismiss the BLM movement?
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Chanting "death to cops", actually murdering cops, beating up white people cause of their skin colour, vandalizing, rioting, looting, blocking highways and putting not just themselves but the drivers at risk, breaking into peoples homes, dragging people out of cars, actively opposing the police force that is there to try and maintain a semblance of peace, double-standards when it comes to "all lives matter" or "police lives matter". I've even seen a black woman who figuratively verbally assaulted a white woman saying she should get abortion cause the white race needs to stop.

Nah, no reason at all to dismiss BLM, after all; Some racist cops have shot people cause of their skin colour.

Kind of like Feminism actually, at this point the movement comes with too much shitty baggage that if they want to promote a good positive message that educates people on a serious issue then it is time to abandon the old movement and move on to something else and try a vastly different approach so that the same shitty baggage doesn't happen again.
 
Chanting "death to cops", actually murdering cops, beating up white people cause of their skin colour, vandalizing, rioting, looting, blocking highways and putting not just themselves but the drivers at risk, breaking into peoples homes, dragging people out of cars, actively opposing the police force that is there to try and maintain a semblance of peace, double-standards when it comes to "all lives matter" or "police lives matter". I've even seen a black woman who figuratively verbally assaulted a white woman saying she should get abortion cause the white race needs to stop.
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How do you know that all of them are part of the same BLM movement? I am not saying that you're wrong, but dunno, I just feel that there are a large people who made problems before BLM, and now get lumped together with the sensible voices or peoplet that actually have a much different agenda that has nothing to do with blaming 'whitey' or spouting their racist bullshit of kill-all-white people. I've seen those neat youtube videos of some black chick or black guy rioting and spouting some nonsense, however I had no chance to check if they actually have a real affiliation with the BLM movement now or not. Where as the videos where they show a black male with raised arms is getting shoot, well is a video where a clearly unarmed black guy got shoot. But I don't want to simply blame it all on the cops either. I know, there are a lot of emotions playing here too. And when emotions get so high, then I always feel a bit suspicious.

But are you sure those examples that you named are representative for the movement as a whole? Has BLM a kind of spokesperson? Is it a unified and solid movement? Is it acting more like a party? Like where you can actually throw someone out of your organisation? Or is it more a group like the Punk movement or Anonymus, where everyone can claim to be a member, simply because he used a hashtag? For example, I remember how the media jumped on Anonymus, the moment someone hacked something, and simply because someone, somewhere said, we are Anonymus. It turned out though, much latter however, that none of those hackers had actually a real conection with the Anonymus movement.

This is what wikipedia says:
"In 2013, the movement began with the use of the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter on social media, after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of African-American teen Trayvon Martin. Black Lives Matter became nationally recognized for its street demonstrations following the 2014 deaths of two African Americans: Michael Brown, resulting in protests and unrest in Ferguson, and Eric Garner in New York City.[2][3] The originators of the hashtag and call to action, Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi, expanded their project into a national network of over 30 local chapters during 2014–16.[4] The overall Black Lives Matter movement, however, is a decentralized network and has no formal hierarchy"

The last statistics that I have seen, as far as cops and the shooting goes, is that black people, as a minority see a disproportionaly high number of deaths due to cops and also more prison time. Now, I have no clue what the reason for this could be. But I feel it is enough to ask questions and if there is something that can be done to improve the situation.

My stance on it, simply put, is best explained by Obama, if that is the reason behind the Movement as a whole.
Obama said, "I think that the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matter was not because they were suggesting that no one else's lives matter ... rather what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that's not happening in other communities."

Are those idiots among the movement representative for it as a whole or not?
 
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Don't give me that ... you know what I am trying to say. Or do you blame the Punkmovement as a whole for what happend on the Chaostage in Hannover?
 
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