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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Mr Fish, Sep 23, 2016.
I can say the same about you.
I have no problem with Jewish people coming to live here instead of going to Israel. Actually I would prefer that.
How do you feel about Muslim refugees from, say, Syria coming to the States? Do you similarly welcome them over there?
And how do you feel about blacks in general? Then again they had little choice in going to US since they were taken there as slaves.
I know your post isn't directed at me but me and a buddy had a good chat.
I would LOVE to give more people in Africa the chance to come here, ESPECIALLY the kids. For them, their only crime was being born and from there on, life has just continued to take a shit on them everyday.
If you look at the various nations, not surprisingly, some of the most pro-American vibes you will get from people, come from Africa. For a lot of Africans, coming to the U.S. is a dream.
All those people who risked their and the lives of their families, working for the U.S. civilian and military, in the ME, those people have earned their free ride here.
TBH, we REALLY NEED to crackdown on ILLEGAL immigration so that ALL people, not just Mexicans, who have an easier time getting in by virtue of location, get a chance to come to this country.
Yet you are willing to cite Nazi propaganda as an argument.
Just to keep the record straight, I'm not American. I don't live in America. I'm not White either. You probably wouldn't believe me if I say that I'm not racist. And there is no way for me to prove that I'm not.
What part of what I wrote was "Nazi propaganda"? The part where I wrote that Jewish folks are welcome to live over here? So are Muslims too btw.
I am not saying that prejudice is either good or bad. Just that we as humans will have to deal with it probably for ever, because it is a part of our behaviour. Like no clue, fear or anger which are neither good or bad, but simply emotions. What you do with your emotions is the question. I am pretty sure that some 30 000 years ago, a healthy doze of prejudice has saved the one or other cavemans live, but beeng prejudiced all the time, isn't really helpfull either, because at some point you had to get out there and finde a potential mate.
I think it isl natural, up to a certain extend. What ever if you let prejudices dictate your behaviour or not is a different question. I have prejudices, and I am pretty sure you have them as well. But I don't let mine dictate how I treat people I don't know. But you still have to somehow 'judge' people that you see for the first time in your life, and when you do that, it's already prejudice. Doesn't mean it has to be negative or positive.
Seriously, we humans usually don't need more than a couple of seconds before we decide if we find someone sexy, likedable or what ever. We are very very primeval beeings under the surface, we tend to forget that quite often. But really, it doesn't take that much to push people over the edge.
Sometimes I think ,it's really a miracle that most of us manage to function at all without screaming all the damn time, when you consider how many strong feelings are constantly in conflict with each other. I never noticed that really, before I didn't start to work with children, and they are really amazing creatures I tell you! Most of the ones I supevice are between 11 and 12, and they are some little bags full of all sorts of emotions. Sadly many of our children here, have some serious issues as well, abusive parents, neglence, viollence, parents really don't know what damage they do to their children.
Yeah, all nice and dandy. But would you put your own life on it? I mean given a real situation. Where a christian orthodox serbian group with kalashnikovs is walking toward your bosnian village full of muslims and you have no clue what they want, will you wait till they greet you? Or will you attack them? Or will you flee?
I agree with a lot of what you say, and god knows I am one of the most tolerant people you will ever meet. But sadly, even I who is preaching love for everyone and everything, has to agree ... reality can be a real bitch sometimes and it will kick us all in the nuts, regardless what ideology we have. And being prejudiced can actually save your live in some cases ... as much as I hate to say it.
I was talking about your entire snick about Zionism.
What about it? Zionists don't make it a secret that without WW 2 there most likely would be no Israel/"holy land". Where do Nazis claim that?
Nazis and Zionists even collaborated, it was in both their interests to get Jewish people out of Germany and Europe and into Palestine.
Well, I wish US wouldn't have supported apartheid-era South Africa. Btw Israel supported them too and even helped them with the nuclear bomb project that luckily didn't come about. US and CIA have also supported folks like Mobutu Sese Seko in Africa and assassinated union leaders etc. So yea, some Africans might like US but not all.
Looked into Nazi and Zionist collaboration and they only ever had one agreement about booting people (and stealing all their wealth in the process) to Palestine in 1933 the Haavara Agreement, witch was hated by both sides and did what both sides wanted, got Jewish people out of Germany (the Nazis goal) and to save Jewish lives (the Zionist goal) and is used as an example of how the Nazis views were shown from the beginning. Every thing else I could find was what seemed like crazy conspiracies that said that either the holocaust did not happen or was no where near as bad as it was made out to be (you know besides the evidence of mass graves and such).
I would say that you are starting to look like a conspiracy theorist......
Oh I see you "Joined x.x.2016"-noobs are like, acting as a team, answering questions posed to each other. Isn't that nice. Like a noob-hivemind, right here on NMA, the 'elitist' Fallout - site.
Nazis helped Jews leave and go to Palestine until a very late date. You can look into the traffic between the two. Countries like US and even Canada weren't willing to accept Jews.
Because unless you give me some sources, I'm going to assume that it is.
I don't even know the other guy. I guess that it is easier just to lump people in groups and label them as good or bad.
I don't care if you believe me or not.
Sure you don't.
So you arguing with people isn't about persuading people but finding other people that agree with you so that they can tell you how much of a good boy that you are? Well good for you.
It is terrifying to live in a world where everyone who disagrees with you secretly knows each other.
You're the one that believes Nazi propaganda except when contradicts with your narrative.
Well it's hard to believe you if you avoid showing your sources for this Zionists-Nazi conection when people ask you for it, you know. It also makes any discussion kinda tiresome and meaningless. But hey! I am just saying, you could easily make people shut up, if you simply showed them your undeniable proof.
Nah, can't be arsed. Y'all need to leave the discussion boards and hit the uni or even a library more often.
Btw, you cool Crni but all these 2016 noobs I don't really care about.
Eh? Are you a little obtuse or something? Serious question. Just tell us at least the BOOK you've been reading for christs sake ... you're really good at avoiding the subject you know. It makes you really sound like one of those dudes that say, fuck you all for disagreeing with me, I am going home!
Ah, MutantScalper, the know-it-all-but-not-gonna-explain strikes again.
Wait guys, I'll get that book. Just wait a second, ok? Everybody ok with that? After I get the book can we be friends again and hate blacks together? Is that ok with y'all? Can we have a group hug and stuff?