Blade Runner 2049 announcement trailer!

[TheGM]

I've always had this weird opinion on Blade Runner. Watching it was fine but I liked looking at it and listening to it better. I do kick myself for not seeing Fury Road in the theater but that just wasn't an option. I'll need to see something more from this to see if it peaks my interest.

The 290 is worldwide to my understanding. I don't think Rogue One is out in China yet (January 6th?). We'll see if Donnie Yen (and that other guy) are enough to gather Chinese interest in the Star Wars universe.

The thing is the Chinese don't care about Chinese people being in it, they want big Hollywood stars and I know this is going to sound bad, who aren't black in their movies. Hell they started putting Hollywood actors in their own movies, which caused a bunch of people in the West to lose their shit about the Chinese whitewashing...their own....movies.....

 

[BigGuyCIA]

I've always had this weird opinion on Blade Runner. Watching it was fine but I liked looking at it and listening to it better. I do kick myself for not seeing Fury Road in the theater but that just wasn't an option. I'll need to see something more from this to see if it peaks my interest.


The thing is the Chinese don't care about Chinese people being in it, they want big Hollywood stars in the movie and I know this is going to sound bad, who aren't black in their movies. Hell they started putting Hollywood actors in their own movies, which caused a bunch of people in the West to lose their shit about the Chinese whitewashing...their own....movies.....

Yeah probably. Didn't they have a laundry detergent commercial where the Chinese woman shoves a black dude head first into a washing machine, and out comes a Chinese man with a bowl cut?

 

[TheGM]

Yeah probably. Didn't they have a laundry detergent commercial where the Chinese woman shoves a black dude head first into a washing machine, and out comes a Chinese man with a bowl cut?

Yep.

Hell most of, if not all the promotion for The Force Awakens in China shrunk or out right erased the character Finn from most the advertisement material.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I guess the Chinese wall was not only successful in keeping Mexicans out of China, but also black people.

 

[Mr Fish]

I don't like it.
I like Bladerunner. I don't 'love' it, but I like it.
So my expectations aren't astronomically high when it comes to a sequel.
And still, it managed to fall short of what I'd want out of such a film.

Something about it just screams "HOLLYWOODIZED!!!"
I can't explain it but the reason I can't stand watching modern films is because of how eerily similar they feel. The cinematography(?), how unreal the people in it looks, how typical certain scenes are as if they are just copying what they know is certain to sell. Everything about it just feels too clean. Too polished. Too consumer-friendly.

I've had this problem with modern big budget films for years now and I have no idea what it is, I don't know how to put my finger on it. It's like if an interesting artist or band suddenly shifts their music towards what is currently trending in the charts. They haven't necessarily abandoned their sound or genre, but it doesn't feel real. It feels too prepackaged. Like it isn't a work of a passion as it is hidden under layers of coating of plastic.

There is also the problem of a lot of newer films not feeling "real" to me. Characters, especially the protagonist, looks like beautiful models and sure there are people who look like that in real life but I'm kinda sick of seeing them being the protagonists of everything. And...

Yknow what. I know exactly how to explain this. Look at Scrubs' first episode and then look at an episode in the last season.
Pilot episode Elliot:

Season 8 Elliot:

The camera quality, the setting, the make-up, the way it is filmed, over the course of the series it upped its production value in every way imaginable to the point that it looks unreal. It looks fake. It looks plastic. Hell, in some ways it changed right after its pilot episode in fact. But there is a stark contrast between the pilot and Season 8 and it is exactly the problem I have with big budget crap when it comes to films and tv series'.

And I personally like it when it feels more down to earth. Even a sci-fi setting can feel down to earth in the way it portrays its story, chracters and scenes.

And that trailer for the new Blade Runner film? It feels plastic. Fake. Unreal. Uncanny even (and not in a good way like androids).

It doesn't mean that it is inherently bad or anything. People seem to enjoy this sort of thing which is why it keeps popping up whenever a project gets a big budget. I like Blade Runner but I don't love it and I have never clamoured for a sequel or anything like that so I didn't care before and I don't really care now either.

Then again, I felt the same way about Fury Road and while it doesn't feel like Mad Max at all it was a fucking blast to watch. But this trailer? It does nothing for me. It just reeks of modern Hollywood to me, a stench I don't much care to take a big whiff of.

When Avatar is slated for 9+ sequels, I have very little hope for Hollywood surprising me anymore.

Avatar was released in 2009 and it has yet to get even 1 sequel. At this rate I doubt we'll be seeing that many Avatar films. Hell, I'd be surprised if we even see anything at all.

And oh my, there's Avatar porn parody. I'm uh... Gonna do... Research...

What he did to Alien is one of the biggest dickmoves I can think of in the industry, really.

What, Prometheus? I mean was a fairly average film but I wouldn't call that a dick-move.

 

[BigGuyCIA]

I don't like it.
I like Bladerunner. I don't 'love' it, but I like it.
So my expectations aren't astronomically high when it comes to a sequel.
And still, it managed to fall short of what I'd want out of such a film.

Something about it just screams "HOLLYWOODIZED!!!"
I can't explain it but the reason I can't stand watching modern films is because of how eerily similar they feel. The cinematography(?), how unreal the people in it looks, how typical certain scenes are as if they are just copying what they know is certain to sell. Everything about it just feels too clean. Too polished. Too consumer-friendly.

I've had this problem with modern big budget films for years now and I have no idea what it is, I don't know how to put my finger on it. It's like if an interesting artist or band suddenly shifts their music towards what is currently trending in the charts. They haven't necessarily abandoned their sound or genre, but it doesn't feel real. It feels too prepackaged. Like it isn't a work of a passion as it is hidden under layers of coating of plastic.

There is also the problem of a lot of newer films not feeling "real" to me. Characters, especially the protagonist, looks like beautiful models and sure there are people who look like that in real life but I'm kinda sick of seeing them being the protagonists of everything. And...

Yknow what. I know exactly how to explain this. Look at Scrubs' first episode and then look at an episode in the last season.
Pilot episode Elliot:
View attachment 6816

Season 8 Elliot:
View attachment 6817

The camera quality, the setting, the make-up, the way it is filmed, over the course of the series it upped its production value in every way imaginable to the point that it looks unreal. It looks fake. It looks plastic. Hell, in some ways it changed right after its pilot episode in fact. But there is a stark contrast between the pilot and Season 8 and it is exactly the problem I have with big budget crap when it comes to films and tv series'.

And I personally like it when it feels more down to earth. Even a sci-fi setting can feel down to earth in the way it portrays its story, chracters and scenes.

And that trailer for the new Blade Runner film? It feels plastic. Fake. Unreal. Uncanny even (and not in a good way like androids).

It doesn't mean that it is inherently bad or anything. People seem to enjoy this sort of thing which is why it keeps popping up whenever a project gets a big budget. I like Blade Runner but I don't love it and I have never clamoured for a sequel or anything like that so I didn't care before and I don't really care now either.

Then again, I felt the same way about Fury Road and while it doesn't feel like Mad Max at all it was a fucking blast to watch. But this trailer? It does nothing for me. It just reeks of modern Hollywood to me, a stench I don't much care to take a big whiff of.


Avatar was released in 2009 and it has yet to get even 1 sequel. At this rate I doubt we'll be seeing that many Avatar films. Hell, I'd be surprised if we even see anything at all.

And oh my, there's Avatar porn parody. I'm uh... Gonna do... Research...


What, Prometheus? I mean was a fairly average film but I wouldn't call that a dick-move.

Avatar 2 is slated for December 2018. Worthington and Saldana already signed off for a trilogy back in 2014(?). I was too generous with the original number (9), but they've slated that there will be 2 more films after the trilogy is done (by the end of 2023).

 

[SuAside]

Blade Runner is my favorite all time movie. The matte painting mixed into the scenes, the design, the atmosphere, the actors. Hell, even the background of how the movie came to be is a hugely unlikely story in itself. It's marvelous.

But this trailer? And Ryan Gosling? Really?

I'm not nearly naive enough to believe this movie will do the original justice, but for the love of all that's holy, please don't destroy the original for us. I hope there's some redeeming qualities in this sequel.

 

[Walpknut]

I was waiting for Harrison Ford to ask the guy if he had a trash compactor with the unsubtle mugging he was doing in that trailer. Hope they got with another take.

 

[SuAside]

I was waiting for Harrison Ford to ask the guy if he had a trash compactor with the unsubtle mugging he was doing in that trailer. Hope they got with another take.

Harrison Ford only plays one character and that's Harrison Ford.

Still in some movies, like the original Blade Runner, it works perfectly.

 

[Freight83]

It's hard to be optimistic about anything after Fallout 4.

I'm usually a fan of sequels/series ect...... but no more. Surely there are some original and interesting stories left to tell ? Amongst all mediums...

 

[PlanHex]

Harrison Ford only plays one character and that's Harrison Ford.

At least he works around the clock playing Harrison Ford

 

[Buxbaum666]

As trailers go, this one is definitely a trailer. I think it looks fine and interesting and we have literally no way of telling if the film will be any good from it.

There is also the problem of a lot of newer films not feeling "real" to me. Characters, especially the protagonist, looks like beautiful models and sure there are people who look like that in real life but I'm kinda sick of seeing them being the protagonists of everything. And...

I fail to see how movies featuring beautiful people more often than not is a new thing.

Yknow what. I know exactly how to explain this. Look at Scrubs' first episode and then look at an episode in the last season.
Pilot episode Elliot:
View attachment 6816

Season 8 Elliot:
View attachment 6817

The camera quality, the setting, the make-up, the way it is filmed, over the course of the series it upped its production value in every way imaginable to the point that it looks unreal. It looks fake. It looks plastic. Hell, in some ways it changed right after its pilot episode in fact. But there is a stark contrast between the pilot and Season 8 and it is exactly the problem I have with big budget crap when it comes to films and tv series'.

As far as I know, all of Scrubs was shot with the exact same camera and film stock, Aaton XTR 16mm. What's different about the setting/the way it's filmed? And you're comparing the make-up of a fresh-out-of-med-school hospital intern vs. an experienced private practice physician. I mean that's just silly, characters will develop over the course of 8 years.

And oh my, there's Avatar porn parody. I'm uh... Gonna do... Research...

You are surprised about that? I'd call that a serious case of being out of touch. It's either that or you've only just discovered the internet.

 

[Crni Vuk]

I fail to see how movies featuring beautiful people more often than not is a new thing.

Maybe not a new thing, but definetly more common these days among actors in high buded productions, if you look just some 30 or 40 years back, you simply didn't had a nutritionist and gym instructor at every corner giving you perfect advice in how to get a relatively good looking and muscular body in a couple of months - with the right dedication.

 

[Walpknut]

You guys actually believe this?

 

[Buxbaum666]

Maybe not a new thing, but definetly more common these days among actors in high buded productions, if you look just some 30 or 40 years back, you simply didn't had a nutritionist and gym instructor at every corner giving you perfect advice in how to get a relatively good looking and muscular body in a couple of months - with the right dedication.

The only response I have to this is: "Huh?" So here goes.

Huh?

You guys actually believe this?

Who is "you guys" and what do said guys actually believe?

 

[Walpknut]

The placement of the message would indicate the message is directed at the last person who tried to state a belief of theirs.

 

[Buxbaum666]

I still don't get it.

 

[Crni Vuk]

The only response I have to this is: "Huh?" So here goes.
Who is "you guys" and what do said guys actually believe?

All I am saying is, that people with very good looks are more common today, due to the fact that we have a lot more ways to 'make' people beautiful compared to 30 or 40 years ago.

 

[Mr Fish]

I fail to see how movies featuring beautiful people more often than not is a new thing.

Of course not, but even before the mid-2000's the actors used to look like regular people. Something is different now. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's too vague, I know. But I really can't explain what it is about them.

As far as I know, all of Scrubs was shot with the exact same camera and film stock, Aaton XTR 16mm. What's different about the setting/the way it's filmed?

Dunno. I'm not an expert at camera work. I just see a difference. And it's not just the one thing, it's all of these new modern techniques combined that create a certain 'modern feel', something I don't care for and I hate that I can't explain what it is either. I'm not knowledgeable about filming, make-up, acting etc to really properly point out exactly what it is.

To me, something just feels off. Best example I got was using Scubs' pilot episode vs a season 8 episode. And if you can't see what I mean when comparing that then fuck, man. I'm just gonna shut up about this. I can't formulate a proper criticism because I have no idea how to criticize it in the first place. All I can do is point at A and then at B and go "look, there 'is' a difference". Like Scream 1 and Scream 4 or American Pie 1 and American Pie Reunion.

But like I said. I'm just gonna shut the fuck up about this from now on.

And you're comparing the make-up of a fresh-out-of-med-school hospital intern vs. an experienced private practice physician. I mean that's just silly, characters will develop over the course of 8 years.

You are surprised about that? I'd call that a serious case of being out of touch. It's either that or you've only just discovered the internet.

It's not like I keep up with full feature porn parodies. If you do then hey, good for you, I guess...

 

[Crni Vuk]

Of course not, but even before the mid-2000's the actors used to look like regular people. Something is different now. I can't quite put my finger on it. It's too vague, I know. But I really can't explain what it is about them.

I think I know what you mean, it's kinda the feeling I had the first time I saw this image

Spoiler

and compared it with the feelings I have with the first two movies.