Blasphemous Talk. (Halo 2)

Snake said:
halo 2 looks Sweet but with the limited power of an Xbox it cant look as good as it should.
Never thought I'd see someone on the NMA forums obsessed over graphics. The graphics ARE improved over Halo 1, but it's kind of a double-edged sword, because the way they deal with this on the Xbox's limited power is by adding an invisible fog of war that causes anything that is not part of the scenery to disappear if it gets out of view. Yes, that means it's entirely possible to be sitting there trying to snipe and have your target just disappear when they move out of range (and it is very obvious on the larger maps). I really don't like how they sacrificed playability for prettiness.
 
Played halo 2. Its fun, but i don't see much different from the original (in multiplayer) aside from the dual weapons (which i think is overated because you can't throw gernades). Also the pistol is weak sause now.
 
The single player game is pretty good, but the multiplayer kicks serious ass.

If anyone here plays it on Live, send me a friend request if you want to play games with me.

My tag is: Satanisgreat
 
*shudder*

I have played Halo 2. Christ, they should take a few notes from System Shock 2 and a few other games that have some competence and imagination in map design that doesn't solely consist of "watch these things move so awesomely!" Now only if that bullshit had some use other than to make XBrick sheep baa at the graphics and wet dream about a Halo 3, which is little more than a Transformers rip.

Nevermind how short and simple the game is, that is supposed to make it all up. Or something. The single-player game really does feel just like the first, but with perhaps a couple of more weapons. It doesn't help that the maps are neautiful but shallow as hell. I beat the "end boss" without even realizing it.

The multiplayer, on the other hand, is utter shit unless you have a group of friends who also have the game, as the mainstream multiplayer audience of this game appears to be slightly over the age of 8 years old. Then there's the usual problems with the XBrick multiplayer component and cheating.

It was clearly just an expansion pack, with little else new. Again, Metal Arms whips the pants off of this game in terms of gameplay, level design, and shooter fun with imagination...except for perhaps the vehicles. Actually, those parts in Metal Arms were fun as well, and the botjacking was even moreso given how you can recruit enemy Mils to your side. Too bad the hype drowned it down into a sleeper hit, to the point where many reviewers suddenly became retarded in giving Halo 2 100% and Metal Arms a lower score because of the XBrick's inherent horizontal tear.
 
Have you played Halo 2 on Live Malky? Anyone who has spent 15 minutes on there knows the cheating is horrible and essentially game breaking. Its not just with Halo 2 either.

As for the rest, I'm entirely behind Rosh on this one. I can not understand how Halo 2 has come to be so insanely popular.
 
I really didn't like the graphics. Nowadays people try to cram as much detail as they can in such a small resolution, so things just end up blurry and your senses are overwhelmed. Not all of us have high res digital televisions. It's kind of like farcry, an FPS equivalent of "Where's Waldo?"
 
Roshambo said:
Then there's the usual problems with the XBrick multiplayer component and cheating.

Cheating happens in any multiplayer game. I'd actually say it's less rampant on Live than on PC games.
 
I've yet to play a PC game online where someone couldn't or didn't find a way to cheat.

They are just too easy to manipulate.

It doesn't matter much to me though, I just stick to single player PC games nowadays.
 
satanisgreat9 said:
Cheating happens in any multiplayer game. I'd actually say it's less rampant on Live than on PC games.

Bullshit. Figure out what the difference is between a console release and a PC dumb client, and then try again. PC games can at least get patched and can support anti-cheating models with dedicated servers, where the server does the work but the other clients act dumb when they connect.

XBrick Live games are notorious for "Well, Live with it."

Consoles can't really take advantage of dedicated servers due to both their setup and the hardware limitations.

Commissar Lauren said:
Anyone who has spent 15 minutes on there knows the cheating is horrible and essentially game breaking. Its not just with Halo 2 either.

People need a whole 15 minutes to see that? :D
 
DON'T SAY THE C-WORD! It's BAD! If people cheat on XLive, then let me figure it out when I get it! Don't say the C-Word!
 
I like how they had half a plot. "Hay guys, lets end the game in the middle of the god damn plot without resolving anything."
 
I hated how they ended H2 like that. That's like the way Gearbox ended Opposing Force. I blame Gearbox for that, not Bungie. Despite the fact they didn't work on H2, they left a bad influence on Bungie.
 
Roshambo said:
PC games can at least get patched and can support anti-cheating models with dedicated servers, where the server does the work but the other clients act dumb when they connect.

XBrick Live games are notorious for "Well, Live with it."

Consoles can't really take advantage of dedicated servers due to both their setup and the hardware limitations.

All I know is that I can play on Live for days without getting cheated, but can't go an hour playing Counterstrike without hearing the word "hacker".

All you have to do on Live to not get cheated is make sure you're the host. There's nothing you can do about what programs people have on their computer.

And Bungie is releasing a patch for the game in the next couple weeks to solve some of the cheating problems/glitches.

The bottom line is there are going to be some retards whereever you go that will find ways to cheat, but the majority of gamers are OK people who play to have fun.
 
satanisgreat9 said:
And Bungie is releasing a patch for the game in the next couple weeks to solve some of the cheating problems/glitches.

If I had a dollar...

And if you're having problems with Counter-Strike cheating, then perhaps you need to find a competent server. Simple as that. Generally, most FPS server code builds are centered around making the client as dumb as possible.
 
All I know is that I can play on Live for days without getting cheated, but can't go an hour playing Counterstrike without hearing the word "hacker".

Nigga please. I've been accused of hacking several times in Counter-Strike and The Specialists for sudden fits of ass-kicking brilliance. Yet its pretty obvious when somebody uses something like a Speed Hack.
 
Roshambo said:
If I had a dollar...

This is taken directly from Bungie's website, trimmed down a bit but it's still a little long:

"Cheats

We've addressed the modem standby cheat. Can't say how, but we've implemented several fixes to help alleviate this problem. We can't stop people from pressing suspend modem, but we can make it less worthwhile to them. We've also added a number of ways to make it more difficult for players to abuse the fact that they are the host of a game.

This is just a sampling of what we're fixing. Some things are insignificant, some you won't even have heard of, and others we don't want to discuss at this time. All in all, it should be a very pleasant and painless experience and one that improves your experience significantly.


This is a partial list. Many of the changes we've implemented will be invisible to players. Some are simply minor tweaks to networking or performance code. Some are more important, but happen in the background. Some fixes will simply remain undisclosed to prevent further abuse of the system, and we realize that even this tremendous run of changes won't be entirely complete and that abuses by unsportsmanlike players will continue, but we're confident that these tweaks and adjustments will improve the experience for beginners and experts alike."

So they are doing something. Like they and yourself pointed out, it's much harder to patch a console game than a PC game. This game has only been out for four months, and most of these cheats weren't widely known about until fairly recently, so I'd say they're doing a pretty good job providing service for their players.
 
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