Cain on Games (Tim Cain's YouTube Channel)

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  1. Diggfinger!

    Diggfinger! First time out of the vault

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  2. Goris

    Goris First time out of the vault

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    It's bitter sweet watching his videos because he's basically confirming that he's not going to make another fallout game or do another big project since he's not at obsidian anymore. He said he can't make an arcanum sequel because Activision owns the ip but Xbox is about to own Activision so I don't understand what the future of Xbox RPGs is. We are still totally and utterly dependent upon fan projects because there are no interesting projects in development.
     
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  3. Diggfinger!

    Diggfinger! First time out of the vault

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    I answer many questions that have been asked over the last few weeks, so hopefully people can watch this video and refer back to it if those questions are asked again.

    In brief, here's what I cover:

    - This channel is to talk about the game development of my own games.

    - I’m not trying to start a Kickstarter, make a new IP, or reform Troika.

    - I don’t own the rights to Fallout, Arcanum, or Bloodlines, so I cannot make a remaster or a sequel. Contact Bethesda or Activision for questions about that.

    - I do own the code for Arcanum and Temple but I cannot release it. Contracts and NDAs still apply. I have compiled them on modern compilers, for fun.

    - I’m currently a contractor, working for several companies, including Obsidian. I’m not an employee of Obsidian or Microsoft or any other company.

    - I’m working on TOW2, but as a contractor. I’m not the director.

    - I’m not going to play other people’s games, or rank them, or review them.

    - I didn’t work on Fallout New Vegas. It shipped the year before I started at Obsidian, so I have no stories to tell about it.

    - I don’t want to talk about events I didn’t witness, and I never want to tell you what someone else was thinking or feeling or planning. Because I don’t know. I can just tell you what they did.

    - I’m not going to do regular interviews with other developers, but as questions about my games accumulate that I don’t have answers to, I’ll invite old colleagues on to answer those questions

    - Why am I doing this? I’m now the age my father was when he passed away. I want some of the stories remembered, and apparently I’m a better speaker than a writer. So you get videos instead of a book.

    - It’s hard to tell true stories. Everyone remembers events differently. Even with my notes, people have disagreed with me. Often it’s a matter of subtle difference, e.g. we had made the Temple starting area for Fallout 2 early on, but it wasn’t a tutorial and it was skippable. That’s one of the reasons I implore you not to cast my stories with heroes and villains. That changes with perspective, either from different people’s viewpoints or the same persons viewpoint changing over time. As I’ve gotten older and my color vision has faded, ironically I see things less as black and white. I recommend you do the same.
     
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  4. Diggfinger!

    Diggfinger! First time out of the vault

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    Apr 25, 2023
    I am still interested in the secret RPG InXile is working on. (Arcanum/steam-punk vibes)
    Chad Moore and Jason Anderson are working on it.

    Tim also said he might bring Jason on the show :monocle::jiggy:
     
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  5. Mythic

    Mythic Enclave Gunslinger

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    May 12, 2015
    Some of his vids are an interesting watch for sure. I loved listening to the ones on early Fallout development
     
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  6. Violator

    Violator It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 16, 2009
    Tim Cain, more liek Tim Gayn :drummer:
     
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  7. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Hah! Gottem!
     
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  8. Stanislavsky

    Stanislavsky First time out of the vault

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    Mar 7, 2020
    Nice, love how personal it turns out.
     
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  9. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Vault Senior Citizen

    May 12, 2020


    I thought this was interesting

    And this one



    He mentions that synths don’t fit in the Fallout universe. Among other things
     
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  10. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Slippy sloppy, The

    Sep 11, 2010
    Yeah they do. Bethesda added them in, remember?
     
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  11. william dempsey

    william dempsey Veteran of the psychic wars. [REDACTED]

    Jan 23, 2022
    Wasteland had synths and that is next door to fallout. So like everyone else synths could have just wandered in perhaps, by chance, possibly, maybe.
     
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  12. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Guest

    I heard Tim Cain was gay and that is the most important thing he has to say now I guess.

    Hey guys I like to watch tranny porn. I am so brave.
     
  13. william dempsey

    william dempsey Veteran of the psychic wars. [REDACTED]

    Jan 23, 2022
    When I used the Koksuklik account (online poker) I was a Thai ladyboy. I got far less abuse than I expected.
    When I told them I liked to eat cat as dog was too chewy, they fuckin freaked :)
     
  14. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Guest

    Did you show them your fake wiener too lol?
     
  15. william dempsey

    william dempsey Veteran of the psychic wars. [REDACTED]

    Jan 23, 2022
    Na, the poker had a great chat box but no way of upping dick pics. The avatar at the tables was a 'worm' that looked like a dick haha
     
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  16. Alexmikli

    Alexmikli First time out of the vault

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    Sep 21, 2015
    So there's been a merger between Activision and Microsoft in progress lately, but it keeps getting delayed. I wonder if this game is literally meant to beArcanum, but has to keep the name filed off until the merger is complete(if ever).


    Also, on Tim Cain in general, his channel is really eye opening. I don't see eye-to-eye on him in regards to everything, but it'd be weird if I did. I can't help but agree with him on synths and Terminator style robots in Fallout though.

    In the 80s and 90s, I think he was actually fairly brave for it. Totally different now, almost...fashionable.
     
  17. Sheepo

    Sheepo First time out of the vault

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    Nov 23, 2015
    Seethe
     
  18. william dempsey

    william dempsey Veteran of the psychic wars. [REDACTED]

    Jan 23, 2022
    See the what?
     
  19. mannawyadden

    mannawyadden It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    May 3, 2016
    It's pretty rare to see a guy with a rainbow avatar and another guy with a swastika underneath his username happily coexisting on the same forum. Don't think I've ever seen that anywhere else on the internet.

    As for Tim Cain's videos, I've seen a few so far and they offer some cool insight. I really enjoyed the bit where he clearly laid out the differences between Fallout 1 and 2's writing style when it came to humor and cultural references. I was working on a mod that brought FO2's jokes more in line with FO1 but I never finished...guess I'll have to get back to that.

    I thought the bit about him resigning after he wouldn't tell Fargo who was responsible for the Fallout 1 code error was interesting too. I understand Fargo's position...I've had people try to cover up for other people's mistakes in a similar fashion, and he wanted someone's head to roll.

    But if Fargo really needed to know whose fault the error was - if it was that big of a deal - he should've either made Cain comfortable telling him, or just been blunt and fired Cain for insubordination at the earliest opportunity. Cutting his bonus like that without discussing it with him was a petty and passive aggressive power play, and it clearly didn't motivate Cain in the direction he was anticipating.
     
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  20. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos Vault Senior Citizen

    May 12, 2020
    I’m pretty sure they’re both doing it ironically
     
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