Change to Fallout 3: Morphine becomes Med-X
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UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
RightSeymour the spore plant said:
, I remember that now that you mention it. Too many issues to keep track of and yet another system that goes in the face of a mature game. Do we know if you can go cold turkey and eventually overcome additions that way as well or do you have to see a doctor (I'm doubt it with their crippling system)? I personally think that someone could really have fun and do cool things with hallucinogens in a game though I'd be surprised if beth did...Good lyrics but the music doesn't grab me.Dopemine Cleric said:
Skynet 2.0
It Wandered In From the Wastes
UncannyGarlic said:
Why is Bethesda willing to make a version of the game just for Germany with the violence removed, but they don't want to bother with minor edits to the regions that complain about the drugs? I don't think morphine should be in the game, but surely they could at least come up with a better name than Med-X? Also, I don't see what was wrong with the chems they had in FO1+2. If they wanted a way to ignore crippled limbs, as some have suggested, they could easily just add that to Psycho, and ramp up the negative effects.
Also, I just don't like the name. Rad-X in the original games gave you resistance to radiation, but I'd always be happier with a few RadAways in my inventory. The only place I bothered with them was the Glow, but that's only because I didn't want to have to get rid of 1000 REMs, and have almost 100% chance to get addicted.
EnglishMuffin
Still Mildly Glowing
Beth can't come up with anything better than Med-X because they don't have anyone that talented on their staff. They are trying to do the best they can with the assets that they have.
FeelTheRads
Vault Senior Citizen
You do have to realize that it's entirely possible (hell, I tend to believe it's true) that Bethesda did this as a pure advertising device. Hey, they're forced to change something in their game, it must be because it's such a bad-ass game. Remember the controversy around GTA boosting sales.
And Fallout 3 had only one drug with a real-name. Don't you think it's just a little bit weird?
And Fallout 3 had only one drug with a real-name. Don't you think it's just a little bit weird?
Yawgmoth43
First time out of the vault
Okay, why does no one seem to remember Bethesda putting morphine in their 2005 game, Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, and still calling it morphine? It helped your character maintain control when critically injured, until you could heal yourself. But it could still be abused, and with proper consequences. Bethesda didn't compromise for censorship purposes that time, and everything was fine.
I personally would prefer a fantasy name, only because it's in the Fallout universe. Otherwise, I really hate when game companies fold to the bitching of the public. Look what happened with Manhunt 2. Aside from the fact that the Manhunt games sucked anyway, its developers originally made an AO-rated game, but were scared it would get bad media attention and/or would not sell as much as an M-rated version. By cracking under the pressure, they sacrificed dignity and failed to take a stand against the frail public and media who find any excuse to whine. Bethesda and the morphine is not as severe a case, but had this been in a non-Fallout game, and they changed the drug name to silence the bitching, I would have been very disappointed in this company.
I personally would prefer a fantasy name, only because it's in the Fallout universe. Otherwise, I really hate when game companies fold to the bitching of the public. Look what happened with Manhunt 2. Aside from the fact that the Manhunt games sucked anyway, its developers originally made an AO-rated game, but were scared it would get bad media attention and/or would not sell as much as an M-rated version. By cracking under the pressure, they sacrificed dignity and failed to take a stand against the frail public and media who find any excuse to whine. Bethesda and the morphine is not as severe a case, but had this been in a non-Fallout game, and they changed the drug name to silence the bitching, I would have been very disappointed in this company.
PaladinHeart
Mildly Dipped
Maybe Dark Corners of the Earth wasn't released in Australia?
Seymour the spore plant
Still Mildly Glowing
Yawgmoth43 said:
Bethesda was only the game's publisher. Though I suppose it counts for something that they didn't twist Headfirst devs' arms into changing it like some publishers might, that decision wasn't theirs alone and so it's not like they were being bastions of integrity there.
PaladinHeart
Mildly Dipped
Well Bethesda is listed in the credits for doing the voicework on the game, so they did have there fingers in more than just being the publisher.
The game seemed like it was given a very limited release on the X-Box. It's like.. it's released and then.. POOF! It's gone. Never seen the PC version. Maybe that's just Wal-Mart's bad management at work.
The game seemed like it was given a very limited release on the X-Box. It's like.. it's released and then.. POOF! It's gone. Never seen the PC version. Maybe that's just Wal-Mart's bad management at work.
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
I hadn't thought of that for this but it's fitting and sounds the most probable. All press is good press and "bad" press over contraversial material is even better for a "mature" game.FeelTheRads said:
FeelTheRads said:
it's the perfect crime! but... wait. aren't they changing it to avoid even more controversy? because surely if they were looking for controversy to sell the game, wouldn't the headlines "game contains useable morphine, convices twin five year olds to overdose on drug" be more effective? why, these sneaky devils must be using that as a smoke-screen!
UncannyGarlic said:
no, not all press is good press. but shit, this isn't even bad press, it's not press at all. a name got changed.
CodeZombie
First time out of the vault
When did Bethesda become pussys?
They published Call of Cthulhu and we had morphine as a drug in that game. Swear there was a second real life drug as well, or was that something that got cut during production?
mind you, at one point we had cigarettes in, if you smoked one, you regained a small amount of sanity...
Society has become a sad bubble-wrap parody of itself...
I hate the way society is becoming soft and stupid.
They published Call of Cthulhu and we had morphine as a drug in that game. Swear there was a second real life drug as well, or was that something that got cut during production?
mind you, at one point we had cigarettes in, if you smoked one, you regained a small amount of sanity...
Society has become a sad bubble-wrap parody of itself...
I hate the way society is becoming soft and stupid.
PaladinHeart
Mildly Dipped
CodeZombie said:
That would have really come in handy the first time you come face to face with the shoggoth. I had to hide behind the crates for a few minutes until the PC could see straight.
Ah well, at the same time it also seems silly that your PC would actually take time out to smoke when they're having to fend for their life.
No big loss though, since I don't believe in smoking. [spoiler:5bcf75be39]Then again I don't believe in suicide either but that never stopped our protagonist did it?[/spoiler:5bcf75be39]
