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RE: Damnit.

> Water... I'm sure you'll be exporting that...

They already do.





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RE: Damnit.

about 3% of all the water on earth is fresh, and most of that is locked up in Glaceirs/ice. and Canada has quite a lot of Ice and glaciers init along with near direct acsses to the Artic Circle, and H2O is the most important resouce on the entire planet. also, de-slaination is VERY expensive (ex. Instead of De-salinizing their water, Los Angeles pipes its water in from Lake Superior about oh 2,000 miles away, and it is less expensive. Now it is concievable (although unlikley) that Canada could at an undtermined time in the future become a Superpower. Reasons this is unlikey: 1. Cheaper methods of desalinating water should become available. 2. The amount of time needed to melt the ice into something useable. 3. Antartica is still there. 4. Like somebody mentioned, Canada is a peaceful nation, so they might share the water (bad move poltically though). So as I said it is still concievable the Canada might becoem a Superpower based on its water supply, although this is unlikly for the above (and probably other reasons). Please do not take this out of proportion. Personally, I like Canada, nice place, nice people, nice trees, nice everything (at least from what I have seen). They also provide a VERY important resource to the world already (perhaps more important than water), Comideans.


Also, it was polticaly smart move for Canada to be annexed by the U.S. in Fallout.


Canada is great, America is great, end of discussion.
 
RE: Damnit.

>about 3% of all the water
>on earth is fresh, and
>most of that is locked
>up in Glaceirs/ice. and
>Canada has quite a lot
>of Ice and glaciers init
>along with near direct acsses
>to the Artic Circle, and
>H2O is the most important
>resouce on the entire planet.
> also, de-slaination is VERY
>expensive (ex. Instead of
>De-salinizing their water, Los Angeles
>pipes its water in from
>Lake Superior about oh 2,000
>miles away, and it is
>less expensive. Now it
>is concievable (although unlikley) that
>Canada could at an undtermined
>time in the future become
>a Superpower. Reasons this
>is unlikey: 1.
>Cheaper methods of desalinating water
>should become available. 2.
> The amount of time
>needed to melt the ice
>into something useable. 3.
>Antartica is still there.
>4. Like somebody mentioned,
>Canada is a peaceful nation,
>so they might share the
>water (bad move poltically though).

If water, the most plentiful substance on earth, becomes a "resource" which nations fight over, the planet will be in a sad state of affairs. You should also note that desalination is significantly less expensive than shipping water to different places. I highly doubt that Canada would be in any position to actually find clients that would buy their water outside of North America, in which case the United States could simply invoke sanctions on Canada and shut them down (90% of their industry and trade is dependant on the United States), or take them over. Such a desperate situation is not likely to come about any time soon.

> So as I said
>it is still concievable the
>Canada might becoem a Superpower
>based on its water supply,

Superpower? Not likely. The USA could simply cease trade with Canada and they'd be up the river. Canada also does not sport much of a military or investment in military technology that would prevent them from simply being taken over rather than let them become a superpower.

> Personally, I
>like Canada, nice place, nice
>people, nice trees, nice everything
>(at least from what I
>have seen). They also
>provide a VERY important resource
>to the world already (perhaps
>more important than water), Comideans.

I do enjoy some of the comics that come out of Canada, notably Spacemoose (www.spacemoose.com/) and Bob the Angry Flower (www.angryflower.com/).

>Also, it was polticaly smart move
>for Canada to be annexed
>by the U.S. in Fallout.

Yeah, they got oil.

>Canada is great, America is great,
>end of discussion.

Hail North America!

-Xotor-

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RE: Damnit.

I agree that it is near in-concievable that that despaerate situation will come about, and if it does it would probably be better if a Nuclear War did start, since the world would be such a horribel place if that did occur.
 
RE: Damnit.

After a lot of thinking, i think that in the worst case scenario, Canada and the Us would join to make a new MegaSuper power and take over the world. Oops sorry to much of Pinky and the brain there. No seriously Canad and USA would kick ass. We'de be the largest contry in the world and then we could annex Mexico.

"I'm Ugly and I AM CANADIAN!"

btw being Canadian i'll let you in on a secret. we're invading the USA. we are doing this slowly with seniors that block th electoral process in Florida.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
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[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Nov-13-00 AT 00:05AM (GMT)[p]>After a lot of thinking, i
>think that in the worst
>case scenario, Canada and the
>Us would join to make
>a new MegaSuper power and
>take over the world.

If problems got really bad Russia would probably be looking to be annexed by China or the USA. Just imagine how much the standard of live would be raised and the neo-capitalist/old-communist cronnies cut down. I doubt however, out of Russian pride, the same pride that refused US help with that sunken submarine, that Russia would ever consider it.

>Oops
>sorry to much of Pinky
>and the brain there. No
>seriously Canad and USA would
>kick ass. We'de be the
>largest contry in the world
>and then we could annex
>Mexico.

I don't think there'd be any real worth in annexing Mexico. Canada may have some resources, but what does Mexico have? People? Drugs? A 3000peso:$1 exchange rate? No I don't think so.

>btw being Canadian i'll let you
>in on a secret. we're
>invading the USA. we are
>doing this slowly with seniors
>that block th electoral process
>in Florida.

NOOOOO keep them out! Maybe we should send them to Canada, it would raise your population a bit (grin). I have to wonder why any senior citizen from Canada would want to come to the USA where prescription drugs cost about 500% more.

-Xotor-

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RE: Damnit.

Well Mexico does have Tequilla,and um....., uh.....er....let me think for a minute. I'll get back to you on that one.


If things got really REALLY bad then Russia would probably ignore pride and annex, a leader has to be practical and grasp opprotunities as they arise, so sayeth the wise Machiavelli, and if things were that bad, the offer to annex from anyone of the countries would be considered a "opprotunity". Yah can't go wrong with Machiavelli ;-). Besdies if Canada and the US and Mexico, were annexed we would have the great mix of Weapons of Mass Desruction, and a giant ego (from the U.S), Trees, comedians and Ice (from Canada) and Tequilla from Mexico. WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!

(Disclaimer: this is not saying that the only good thing the US has is Weapons and an ego, the only good things Canada has is Trees Ice and Comedians, and the only good thing Mexico has is Tequilla).
 
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<I have to wonder why any senior citizen from Canada would want to come to the USA where prescription drugs cost about 500% more.

They already do. They go there for the winter they are known here as snow birds. As for the medication, they et it here where it's close to free.

My idea about Mexico is .. well. it's getting cold here and i would like to be still in Canada but be someplace where it's considered cold when it's 20 degree outside (celcius).

"I'm Ugly and you're not!"
 
RE: Damnit.

Don't forget you'd be stuck with a part of the country that refuses to work around noon.

And why hasn't anyone mentioned that Canada has oil (and lots of it) ? Probably not as much as the U.S. though, but in a future setting, the US oil supply could run out while Canada still has it, because tarsand is not as easy to harvest.

Well, luckyly nobody would be interested in Holland. Or it has to be that Holland is sitting in the way, like in WOII.
 
RE: Damnit.

>Don't forget you'd be stuck with
>a part of the country
>that refuses to work around
>noon.

Well.. that's more because it is incredibly hot to work around that time. However with air conditioning, that should not be a problem. Maybe it only applies to those small shops everybody thinks Mexico is run from.

>And why hasn't anyone mentioned that
>Canada has oil (and lots
>of it) ? Probably not
>as much as the U.S.
>though, but in a future
>setting, the US oil supply
>could run out while Canada
>still has it, because tarsand
>is not as easy to
>harvest.

There's also Oil shale and other forms of fuel. I just read that the Middle East controls about 64% of the total world reserves. Yow!

If scientists could develop a way to extract methane from the ocean floor ground, it would dwarf all the crude oil ever produced in history and whatever is still in reserve... or you could pump cows.. :)

>Well, luckyly nobody would be interested
>in Holland. Or it has
>to be that Holland is
>sitting in the way, like
>in WOII.

WWII? Well being neutral doesn't mean that country's armies can't *travel* through you..

-Xotor-

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RE: Damnit.

>Well.. that's more because it is
>incredibly hot to work around
>that time. However with
>air conditioning, that should not
>be a problem. Maybe
>it only applies to those
>small shops everybody thinks Mexico
>is run from.
>
>There's also Oil shale and other
>forms of fuel. I
>just read that the Middle
>East controls about 64% of
>the total world reserves.
>Yow!
>
>If scientists could develop a way
>to extract methane from the
>ocean floor ground, it would
>dwarf all the crude oil
>ever produced in history and
>whatever is still in reserve...
>or you could pump cows..
>:)
The problem is that those methane reserves are pretty deep under water. And I believe it's methanehydrate.
In theory, you could live on unions and brown beans, and just fart in the tank of your car. Someone mailed this to me :

Als je 8 jaar, 7 maanden en 6 dagen zou schreeuwen, heb je
genoeg geluidsenergie geproduceerd om 1 kop koffie te verwarmen (niet echt de moeite dus).
Als je 6 jaar en 9 maanden scheten zou laten, heb je genoeg gas
geproduceerd om de energie van een atoombom te evenaren (dat
begint er al meer op te lijken).

Translation :

If you screamed for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you'd produce enough energy to warm a cup of coffee. (not really worth the effort)
If you farted for 6 years and 9 months, you've produced enough gas for an explosion to equal an atom bomb (that's more like it)

>WWII? Well being neutral doesn't
>mean that country's armies can't
>*travel* through you..

Well, Holland declared itself neutral, but the Germans just ignored that.
 
RE: Damnit.

>If you farted for 6 years
>and 9 months, you've produced
>enough gas for an explosion
>to equal an atom bomb
>(that's more like it)

Not to mention the smell!

>Well, Holland declared itself neutral, but
>the Germans just ignored that.

Well.. what are you going to do when a country with a whole hell of a lot of tanks and men says to you: we're coming through, don't stop us. It's almost funny how France was taken over that way.

-Xotor-

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RE: Damnit.

My theory is: You can fix anything with a really, REALLY big hammer(TM) (in some special cases you need a really REALLY big Wrench(TM)). So what we do to elminate all the fighting in the world is take the really REALLY big Hammer and hit all the world leaders on the head with it, case closed.
 
RE: Damnit.

Yes you can. You can stop world hunger by killing everybody who is hungry, prevent the nuclear war by eliminating your enemy's nuclear potential, and make everybody smile by carving up a smile on their faces with a knife. You can stop conflicts between nations by eliminating nations - by annexing them. Bickering between China and US over Siberia? Eliminate Siberia, US, or China, and there would be no conflict. Conflict over oil? Nuke all oil derricks and contaminate all oil supplies with a virus that disrupts carbon-hydrogen structure (the virus is not a fantasy, it's a a reality).





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Exactly, and you can destroy the computer virus problem by: 1. Eliminating all the people who own computers and two destroying the computers themselves. About the smile, how would you keep it in place? with cement?
 
RE: Damnit.

Shit, been ignoring this thread for a while and didn't know it had turned into a debate on which is better, Canada or the U.S.

I am a resident of Canada, I was born in Canada, and I will die in Canada. I love this country, despite it's idiotic politicians (what country doesn't have em?) and the lack of good T.V shows (we pretty much all watch U.S shows)

Now, what is wrong with the U.S? Here's my view.

!) They're too full of themselves. Any country that thinks they're the best in the world, without a doubt, has an ego the size of well.... Canada.

2) Even more full of themselves, the whole situation a while back with that dude Slobodon Milosevic (sorry for the name spelling) was warranted in my opinion, but it also brings up 1 thing, and that is that the U.S will bomb anything that so much as breathes a word of opposistion to the Red White and Blue. You don't agree with the U.S? Well enjoy the Tomahawk Missle they'll shove up your ass in response.

3) Bah, I be tired and shit, so I'll end it on this. The U.S is repeating a very famous pattern in history, that of Rome.
as with Rome, the U.S will crumble under the weight of it's own self glory. Now, while I haven't studied the Romans too much, a lot of things are being repeated by the states. They're overextending their power, much as the Roman Empire did with their borders and Military.

The U.S are practically undefeated in combat, and have the most powerful army in the world (much as the romans) but, as the romans were eventually defeated by internal strife and their military so overextended past their core borders, so will the U.S.

Now, I'm not going into full detail of how the Romans and the staes are similar, cus quite frankly, I don't wanna get into writing a god damned study on the matter, much as I did for my Grade 11 Political Sciences class. But, I would like to say, that after viewing the facts that I do know, I truly feel that the U.S. will fall in the future, and the sad part is, that I also feel that half of the world will be falling with them.

Egh, this be some long shit, hope some of you can understand what I'm trying to say. This is after all, only "my" opinion.





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RE: Damnit.

>About the smile, how would you
>keep it in place? with
>cement?

Either that, or by shooting everybody before they mess up the smile.






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>!) They're too full of themselves.
>Any country that thinks they're
>the best in the world,
>without a doubt, has an
>ego the size of well....
>Canada.

Well it isn't without reason. As the most highly advanced and prosperous nation in history, controlling nearly a fourth of the world's GDP, with the most advanced military on Earth (yes, I will concede that the Swiss army is the best trained), I would say the ego is justified, maybe not needed, but justified.

Yeah, maybe this hubris will be the downfall, but I don't see it anytime soon.

>2) Even more full of themselves,
>the whole situation a while
>back with that dude Slobodon
>Milosevic (sorry for the name
>spelling) was warranted in my
>opinion, but it also brings
>up 1 thing, and that
>is that the U.S will
>bomb anything that so much
>as breathes a word of
>opposistion to the Red White
>and Blue.

However you must also figure that it was in the national interest to shut down Milosevic and help out the Kosovars. That region was the starting center of both World Wars, and tension put on neighboring countries such as Macedonia which had to contend with millions of refugees, causes instability.

Yeah, it may seem that the United States is overstepping its bounds in some cases, but quite frankly, as the most powerful nation, it can and should act to police some of the problems in the world. What happens if this does not happen is that the nation becomes laxed and lethargic. For instance Ancient China had some of the most advanced technology, armies, and navies capable of taking over the planet. Unfortunately the emperor shut down the nation and returned it to isolationalism in order to build up internally. This left it vulnerable as other nations progressed, and China was left without trade influenced, technology, and other sources of advancement.

>You don't agree
>with the U.S? Well enjoy
>the Tomahawk Missle they'll shove
>up your ass in response.

Yeah, but realistically, we didn't get to where we are by being a nice guy. If you don't take the initiative, you're going to be stuck in the back.

>as with Rome, the U.S will
>crumble under the weight of
>it's own self glory. Now,
>while I haven't studied the
>Romans too much, a lot
>of things are being repeated
>by the states. They're overextending
>their power, much as the
>Roman Empire did with their
>borders and Military.

There is a huge difference between Ancient Rome and the Modern USA. #1, Rome was build on conquering other nations in order to keep the troops busy and to expand its territories. Once there was nothing more to conquer, the nation fell into disrepair as the ruling body became more and more corrupt and nickle and dime attacks from invaders slowly picked away at the nation. Another problem was the large plagues which swept through the nation, leaving it very weak.

You also have to remember that Rome was build on fighting with infantry and that the nation was connected to a lot of locations where it could be attacked by land. Relatively speaking, the greatest factor in the United States's prosperity until recently, has been that it is quite isolated from other nations and the nations that border it are usually quite friendly. In this modern age, wars are won by long-range weaponry, not men. Men are there only to secure the location after it has been defeated. That's why we spend aout $1,000,000 per cruise missile to take out our targets, because it is better to stay out of the fray and destroy targets from afar than to actually get in and destroy it. This was evident when we sent Apaches to Serbia. They were gunned down and didn't do a whole lot of good. The "smart bombs" were what won that "war."

>The U.S are practically undefeated in
>combat, and have the most
>powerful army in the world
>(much as the romans) but,
>as the romans were eventually
>defeated by internal strife and
>their military so overextended past
>their core borders, so will
>the U.S.

We're not overextended. The United States isn't out to take over countries, Rome was. Except for the purchase of Alaska, the United States has stayed practically the same size since it formed.

Rome fell to internal strife because it was a primitive Republic that often fell to Caesars. This was, for the most part, because the country was military-oriented and sought strong leaders. The biggest problems we have here are the Republicans and Democrats.

The United States concentrates on *trade* more than anything. Rome concentrated on acquiring nations to tax. Nearly all the recent "wars" were to combat threats to trade. The anti-communist wars (Korea, Vietnam) were fought to prevent communism from spreading and hampering trade. We protect our own interests as would any nation.

But, I would
>like to say, that after
>viewing the facts that I
>do know, I truly feel
>that the U.S. will fall
>in the future, and the
>sad part is, that I
>also feel that half of
>the world will be falling
>with them.

I predict if the USA falls, so will the rest of the world, that will be World War III.

-Xotor-

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RE: Damnit.

er, guys, have you noticed that this is begining to look like a south park movie?



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