Dark Souls 2

Apparently it's been some time since anyone gave this game some love... or shared any of their love on this site, anyway.

Just found these videos while I was on a Soul Calibur soundtrack kick, and I found them impressive and highly entertaining! =)



 
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What level is he that he does 400dmg *unarmed*?

I hate the pursuer boss fight. It's annoying the hell out of me. And I honestly don't feel motivated to fight two of them at once.
 
He's got items that boost his unarmed damage (Vanquisher's seal and Ring of Blades). He's also "two-handing" before he hits them.
 
I'm back playing this game now after seeing the Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Fire on Steam. Heard the expansions were awesome and they tuned it up to 64-bit for PC. Been watching lore videos to try and remember what the hell the story was. Remembered this thread... Dark Souls II is still awesome.
 
Did they fixed the item degradation bug yet? On console you don't notice it because of 30 fps, but on pc it was serious. Hit stuff a few times and your weapon is done for. Very annoying. Had to keep at least 3 to 4 weapons ready at any time.
 
Lexx said:
Did they fixed the item degradation bug yet? On console you don't notice it because of 30 fps, but on pc it was serious. Hit stuff a few times and your weapon is done for. Very annoying. Had to keep at least 3 to 4 weapons ready at any time.
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Huh, I never realized that was a problem. And I played the game A LOT back when it came. I did notice that weapons degraded rather quickly, but I felt it was a rather good balance.

Anyway, I should find some time to play Scholars of The First Sin. I haven't touched any of the dlc, been saving them all. But I've played the main game so damn much that I'm kind of worn out. I'm more stoked about Dark Souls 3, to be honest. Have really had to contain myself from looking at any gameplay footage. Just as with DS1 and 2, I want to go in completely blind. That's the only way to do Dark Souls.
 
never heard or playing this, probably cause i'm not grown with console in my youth. my parent probihited console because waste of money compared multi functional PC.

is the RPG aspect is good? how deep it is compared to elder scroll or skyrim?
 
What do you define as "RPG aspect"? As far as I am aware the Souls games have nothing in common with RPGs, except character stats- and every other game nowadays has character stats, even Far Cry.

I literally want to eat everyone who says this is a roleplaying game.
 
eissa said:
is the RPG aspect is good? how deep it is compared to elder scroll or skyrim?
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Lexx said:
What do you define as "RPG aspect"? As far as I am aware the Souls games have nothing in common with RPGs, except character stats- and every other game nowadays has character stats, even Far Cry.

I literally want to eat everyone who says this is a roleplaying game.
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dopezilla said:
Probably pretty good if you're used to Skyrim.
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The modern definition of an RPG is no longer that you assume the role of a character in a fictional narrative, but that it has stats and levelling up that improve or expand on the player character's skills in some way, usually by giving them more skills and increasing said stats.

If you told people today that roleplaying game actually means a game you roleplay in, it would blow their minds. So by the modern definition, it's fine. By the actual definition, not so much.

It's not that people are on and on about how it's a bad game, because Dark Souls 2 isn't a bad game. It just doesn't follow the traditional definition of RPG, and frankly, people these days (including me, occasionally) use that term very loosely anyways. Remember that Borderlands is considered an RPG, not a shooter with RPG elements, but an outright shooter RPG.
 
eissa said:
never heard or playing this, probably cause i'm not grown with console in my youth. my parent probihited console because waste of money compared multi functional PC.

is the RPG aspect is good? how deep it is compared to elder scroll or skyrim?
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Dark Souls 1 and 2 are completely playable on pc, but I'd recommend playing it with a controller either way since it fits the gameplay much better.

I wouldn't really compare it to Skyrim at all. Different types of games. You have some "rpg aspects" in the form of experience levels and stats, which result in different builds that use different types of weapons, spells and armor. This part of the game is pretty deep in that you can plan your character in detail and "roleplay" different types of characters. You also make some small choices that slightly affect things in the game (mainly for getting certain spells or items). Dark Souls 1 was much better in that area, where npc's you met had their own storylines that you could affect.

The story is told through npc's, usually you have to talk to them over and over to get bits and pieces. There's also a lot hidden in item descriptions, and simply in the level design. That's what makes at least Dark Souls 1 genius in my opinion - the game is shock full of lore and storytelling, but very little of it is told directly to you and you will have to explore, read and listen and fit the pieces together yourself. Much of it is also open for interpretation. There's a reason there are hours of lore discussion on YouTube. Dark Souls 2 was much more straight forward in it's story telling, but there's still a lot there to discover and ponder over.

The combat is rather deep and tactical. You can't just hack and slash your way through. You will need to time blocks and parries, dodge attacks and use good positioning. A major part of the games is the challenging combat, which you need to practice and master. Some bosses are relatively easy once you get the hang of them, others are very hard.

Another huge part of the game is the online part. If you really want to get the most out of it, you should stay connected to the servers. That way you can get people to aid you, or help others for rewards, and be invaded by other players when you least expect it. And also read messages from other people, see how they died and see the "ghosts" of their characters here and there throughout the game. It really does a lot for the atmosphere.

I'd suggest watching a little bit of gameplay if you're curios, but don't focus on pvp as that's not a required part of the game and where all the raging no-lifers tend to be. Also, don't watch too much of it and try to stay clear of boss fights. A big part of the beauty of these games is exploring the world and seeing everything for the first time yourself, as well as dying horribly over and over until you learn.
 
Role playing games. It is such a broad umbrella ... RPG was once a term you used to define a niche genre in gaming. But today, I mean if you can sell pure shooters as RPGs today, than it has become a completely useless term actually. Like if 95% of the cars you can buy, are labeled as "sports cars", it would completely lose its meaning and definition and you would have to find a "new" word for the real sports cars. Which is what pretty much happend with RPGs, where you call them either hardcore RPGs or cRPGs or what ever.

It's kinda telling when something that was once considered a standard, is now seen as "hardcore".
 
On a different forum I discussed with another user about how anything with levels, upgrades or skills is called a RPG these days and that the meaning of RPG is lost forever due to the generalisation that the genre suffered in the last 10 years, he said I was wrong and that it would never happen even after I showed him several games that the Steam genre says they are RPG but have nothing to do with real RPGs, for example:
  • S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games
  • Borderlands games
  • Road Redemption (early access game where we always ride a motorcycle and shoot at rival bike gangs)
  • Risk of Rain (description says: "Risk of Rain is an action platformer with roguelike elements." but Steam still says it's Genre is RPG)
  • Shantae and the Pirate's Curse (it's a platformer, action/shooter, arcade game)
  • Sherlock Holmes versus Jack the Ripper (a point-and-click, detective game)
  • Magicmaker (it's a platformer, action/shooter, arcade game)
  • Tropico 5 (a real-time strategy, city builder, sandbox game. Quite important that the older games do not have the RPG genre on Steam so we can see that the RPG genre only started to be associated with everything in newer games)
  • A Bird Story (even though it is made in RPG Maker it is not a RPG, the description says: "A Bird Story is an interactive pixel animation with the sole purpose of telling a simple story. It is a standalone narrative, with its own beginning and ending." and that is what it is, while we can control the character we just walk around and interact with objects to continue the story)
  • Infectonator : Survivors (game description says: ""Infectonator : Survivors" is a Randomized Permadeath Survival Simulator that combines RTS, Tower Defense, Roguelike, and Management-Simulation gameplay." Yet Steam once again sticks the Genre RPG on it)
These were just a few I found quickly I bet there are way more, even if a game it is not a RPG and even the description doesn't say it is a RPG Steam goes and sticks the RPG genre (notice Genre is not Tags, Tags are given by users but genre is given by Steam and/or Game companies/distributors) for what, to look cool and Hip?
It's like playing RPGs is the new "Smoking is cool" trend and everyone wants to play RPG games or something when they have no idea what that means and it has been happening for so long that you can show them real RPG games and people laugh at you and say those are outdated pieces of shit and I should evolve with the times as if we could change a game genre like that...
 
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