Deepwater Horizon/BP Oil Spill

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Rewards include saving one of the most productive fishing ecologies and livelihood of thousands of Americans.
 
Huhuhu.
But are the Americans the only one who could suffer from this situation ?
I mean, if we really DON'T know how to fix the leak, it could continue for ages...
 
Just pour underwater drying concrete over it.

OR a big slab of metal, not hollow metal, big slab of metal, a rectangular box, flatter on one side. Like a huge anvil.
 
Actually their idea of coupling a pipe to it isn't that bad of an idea, though why they choose to stick the pipe inside of the broken pipe instead of around the outside is beyond me. I wouldn't think that it would be that hard to put a sleeve over it which you then clamp down onto then fix to the pipe to create a seal. Ideally you'd then weld it to make it airtight (prevent the natural gas from leaking) but introducing a spark down there isn't a good idea. After you sleeve the pipe I'd think that you could pump it (like they are) or seal it fairly easily, greatly slowing the spill until they finish the well, during which time they could cover it with a box which they could properly seal (excavate and cement) to the ocean floor. BP claims that the pipe is capturing around 3,000 gallons of oil and a total of 5,000 gallons of oil and natural gas out of the pipe which is a pittance to the roughly 100,000 gallons a day of oil and gas leaking out.

Can't wait until the oil starts fucking up Florida and maybe even reaches some of the east coast.
 
UncannyGarlic said:
Can't wait until the oil starts fucking up Florida and maybe even reaches some of the east coast.
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maybe a few people will finally wake up afterwards at least when suddenly their nicest beaches infront of their house are covered in thick black mucus.
 
The concern is more that it'll cause major damage to the coral reefs, which, in addition to the ecological damage, will be nice for Florida residents when future hurricanes and waves have less to break on before getting to land.
 
Crni Vuk said:
UncannyGarlic said:
Can't wait until the oil starts fucking up Florida and maybe even reaches some of the east coast.
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maybe a few people will finally wake up afterwards at least when suddenly their nicest beaches infront of their house are covered in thick black mucus.
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Yeah man, because those of us who live in small towns that thrive off of tourists coming to said beaches, and who have always been against offshore drilling are the ones responsible for the spill.


The fuck are you going on about?
 
obviusly those will have a hard time. No doubt. But sometimes only those pictures let people realise that something is wrong.

I was talking more about one of those biger cities like mami. If it hurts tourism badly enough maybe we will see more changes and particularly more ecological awareness.
 
phil! nice sentiments...

just a question for you though...

since you are against offshore drilling and trying to find new sources of oil...

what kind of car do you drive?
 
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude said:
Yeah man, because those of us who live in small towns that thrive off of tourists coming to said beaches, and who have always been against offshore drilling are the ones responsible for the spill.
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From what I have gleaned over time, the feelings are mixed in the region, just like everywhere else. There are people (I believe the majority) in the region who are all for it because they feel it provides tons of jobs and such like and there are folks who are against it for ecological reasons (or the results of the ecological damage, such as not being able to fish, damage to the tourist trade, ect.). That said, I'm interested in seeing survey results. According to this article (not sure how reliable the numbers are at all), 78% of Louisiana voters are in favor of offshore drilling.
 
TheWesDude said:
phil! nice sentiments...
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About as nice as wishing for the lifeblood of my town (and others like it) to be destroyed in the hopes that maybe some of the good ol boys in the petroleum industry/government will wake up and regulate this shit (hint: they're aware of the damage they're causing, and they don't give a fuck).

TheWesDude said:
just a question for you though...

since you are against offshore drilling and trying to find new sources of oil...

what kind of car do you drive?
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I don't, I bike.

If I need to get somewhere that isn't practical to bike to, I grab a ride with friends/family.
 
What Phil rides hardly seems relevant to his point.

And off shore drilling isn't bad, it is indeed a good thing. We need to be responsible and use better equipment and moar sonar and stuff. Not using the resources nearby costs us more energy to ship it from further away.

And until our messiahs arrive with affordable alternative energy appear, we still need things like oil
 
so phil, since u dont own a car


1) you are too poor to afford one
2) you are too young to buy one
3) you are trying to be "eco friendly" by not owning one



which is it? i hope its not #3, as that is the worst option of the 3.

there is actually a proven, accepted economic model that shows that if you try to conserve energy, you actually cause a net increase in energy/resource consumption.
 
Sephis said:
What Phil rides hardly seems relevant to his point.

And off shore drilling isn't bad, it is indeed a good thing. We need to be responsible and use better equipment and moar sonar and stuff. Not using the resources nearby costs us more energy to ship it from further away.

And until our messiahs arrive with affordable alternative energy appear, we still need things like oil
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You're right. Drill baby drill. Fuck the environment. When our oil runs out, we'll just blow up a few more shady middle eastern countries and take theirs. What happens when their oil runs out? Who gives a shit, let the assholes who come next figure it out.



Sephis said:
And until our messiahs arrive with affordable alternative energy appear, we still need things like oil
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Yeah man, I hear they've been throwing around a few crazy ideas. Something about splitting atoms, or even harnessing the power of the sun/wind/water (Sounds scary, right?) for cheap, clean energy. Who needs that hippy shit when we've got coal and oil to burn. Am I right?


TheWesDude said:
so phil, since u dont own a car


1) you are too poor to afford one
2) you are too young to buy one
3) you are trying to be "eco friendly" by not owning one



which is it? i hope its not #3, as that is the worst option of the 3.
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I can afford one.

I'm 21.

Being eco friendly is part of it. The other part is that for me, driving would be incredibly wasteful. I live and work in a small town, and bike riding is a healthy, free way to get around. I'm saving thousands a year on gas/insurance, and getting a great workout every day.

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Riding around that on my way to and from work every day sucks man, let me tell you.

TheWesDude said:
there is actually a proven, accepted economic model that shows that if you try to conserve energy, you actually cause a net increase in energy/resource consumption.
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You aren't even trying, are you?
 
TheWesDude said:
so phil, since u dont own a car


1) you are too poor to afford one
2) you are too young to buy one
3) you are trying to be "eco friendly" by not owning one



which is it? i hope its not #3, as that is the worst option of the 3.
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I don't own a car and it's none of the above for me. I don't own one because I don't need a car.

TheWesDude said:
there is actually a proven, accepted economic model that shows that if you try to conserve energy, you actually cause a net increase in energy/resource consumption.
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How would this work?
 
TheWesDude said:
there is actually a proven, accepted economic model that shows that if you try to conserve energy, you actually cause a net increase in energy/resource consumption.
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From my connections to people who work in the energy sector I can call bullshit. I don't have the numbers offhand (I could get them if you'd like) but conservation alone can save massive amounts of energy. Reducing energy use and becoming more "green" all starts with conservation. There are way too many idiots who just want to build tons of renewable energy power plants (wind, solar, etc.) and completely ignore conservation.
 
well said stinkin garlic ! The most important target should be to find ways how to save energy as that is I think one of the bigest problems and not just what kind of energy source should be used. There are still so many old and outdated systems in use which could be either upgraded or completely replaced. I mean it would already help a lot if old coal-burning and gas-burning power plants would be replaced with new ones. I heard the difference can be sometimes more then 40% in efficiency !
 
we have covered this before, its a well established, proven, and accepted economic model.

on the micro level, conservation leads to net increase in energy usage.

on the macro level, conservation is very beneficial. the problem is conservation does not happen on the macro level yet. because conservation is not happening on the macro level, conservation efforts lead to a net increase.

currently there is very little conservation on the macro level, and some conservation on the micro level. which is causing problems in the energy sector.
 
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