Different Concepts for the Legion

[Yamu]

I don't know. I'm an avid fan of fallout and playing against Super Mutants, Energy Weapon wielding Enclave Robots and the Enclave again. I think the Legion as crazy melee heavy warriors is a cool way to go. But I think it would have been better if there was a Sub-faction that were like the Amazons. Since the Legion don't let women in their ranks to fight. And I think it would have been cool to have a sister tribe where you could help them stay with the legion or turn them against them kinda like the Khans .

Legions were modelled after classical era Romans. Designed by J.E. Sawyer.

How well does he knows about Classical Romans? or did he intend to make Edward Sallow the First Caesar as a big time swindler?
While the Legion claims themselves to be 'Romans'. Much of their 'ethics' are quite Early Christian. I don't know if Romans really value the life of one's deeds rather than wealth and longevity but early Christians do. In addition, the actual "Pagan Romans" were no less decadent than either Vegans or the NCR. Legion morality might be influenced by Joshua Graham's teachings (or maybe the Malpaise Legate created much of it) and mixed with what Sallow believes Romans viewed it as 'Good'.

@DoubleRubix: In Black Isle's original Fallout 3 concept, there was a tribal faction called the Daughters of Hecate which was the female answer to Caesar's Legion in almost every way (a fearsome Roman-influenced would-be tribal hegemony who revered their ruler as a God thanks to her old-world knowledge). Both they and Black Isle's original Legion concept were a little more nuanced than the Legion we eventually got, and both were to offer quest paths that would allow you to turn them into your own personal armies.

@Lone Cat: With over a thousand years of Roman History to pick and choose from, I think Sallow chose those bits of Romana which he felt best facilitated his vision for his new faction and what he thought their eventual role on the stage of history should be, and he probably fudged a bit or let his own personal preferences and beliefs into the mixture. I'm not sure I'd say he was a con artist as much as he was an egotistical visionary.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The legion should be:

- More like the Roman Empire

- More anti-old world. NOT anti-tech. They should consider the old world and its tech (and all who use it) to be weak and "corrupted." However, any discoveries or weapons made by the legion would be considered "strong." Legion tech should be crude, robust, effective and homemade. The romans were an ingenious lot, afterall. You know the railway gun from FO3? Think that.

Of course, all this could be complete nonsense.

 

[Akratus]

The legion should be:

- More like the Roman Empire

- More anti-old world. NOT anti-tech. They should consider the old world and its tech (and all who use it) to be weak and "corrupted." However, any discoveries or weapons made by the legion would be considered "strong." Legion tech should be crude, robust, effective and homemade. The romans were an ingenious lot, afterall. You know the railway gun from FO3? Think that.

Of course, all this could be complete nonsense.

In my honest opinion it is. The roman aspect of the legion is already ridiculous in New Vegas. They are supposed to be a fearsome enemy that can stand up against the armies of the NCR (spread out/weakened as though they might be) but realistically a number of tribals with spears and such (numerous as though they may be) can never stand up to men with guns

In my opinion Ceasar's legion should have been completely seperate from any roman ideas. Their brutality is enough to make them stand out.

Why couldn't they have been simply well an army of wastelanders that Caesar is trying to mold into a ruthless army.

Why does Caesar have to mold his tribals into an idea thousands of years old to make them work? Why not simply give them guns, and give them a smart leader?

Personally, simply transposing romans into the game is ridiculous. My only complaint really, of New Vegas.

 

[BonusWaffle]

To be fair, they were given and trained with guns, but as tribals they would obviously be better at sneaking around and stabbing people in organised ambushes.