Jebus said:Best European beer is Kilkenny, followed by Orval and Duvel, punk. Guiness isn`t even beer - it`s a draught.
they are talking about pilsner beers it seems Jebus, thats just a different ballpark when compared to Orval & Duvel...
edit: after a fast google, seems like Belgian beer has the upper hand on most respectable international beer rating / beer lover sites...
Westvleteren 12; Orval; Rochefort Trappistes 10; Lindemans; New Glarus Belgian Red (hmz didnt know that last one, prolly export only or something)