Do you think Obsidian considers Fallout 3 canon?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Sn1p3r187, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    This is basically a "bro take what you can get" mentality which a cuckold mentality ngl.
     
  2. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    If anyone is expecting the old Fallout to return, it won't. I just criticize Bethesda Fallouts because i can.
     
  3. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    I still have not played 76 myself.
    Don't get me wrong. I am pro lemon party.
     
  4. ResetRPG

    ResetRPG Hail Damn State

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    Dec 16, 2018
    If you can get it for free, or sub $10, maybe try it out for morbid curiosity. Otherwise it's a piece of shit game that should be left to die.
     
  5. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    I slogged through many hours of it with s friend. (I received it as a well intentioned Christmas gift) Went from giving it a legitimate go, to playing it because it was so bad it was actually funny, to eventually just straight up not enjoying it.

    I will say without any sarcasm the actual worldmap is probably the best one in the series but it's just filled with either vapid meaninglesness or abject crap.

    Still prefer it to 4
     
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  6. ResetRPG

    ResetRPG Hail Damn State

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    Surprising but not surprising at the same time.
     
  7. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    Lack of story was better than being constantly annoyed. I was able to, at times, enjoy traversing the wilderness of Appalachia listening to the ambient tracks whilst scavenging for survival and travelling alone. Some of the scenes were quite beautiful (the mutant ropevine forest and the cherry bog particularly) There was nothing there to find, but it was nice to wander around all the same.

    The commonwealth was ugly and full of annoying crap that wouldn't shut the fuck up. The fallout 76 ambient OST also actually sounds like Fallout as opposed to 4's nautical TES shit
     
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  8. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    I liked 4 during the first playthrough, but absolutely hated that they gave you the power armor so soon and there was no real progression through the factions. I miss having to earn ranks and respect like they did in Mages guild in Oblivion. You even got commemorative items that were actually useful. Was really disappointing to have no real feeling of achievement through progression. start with simple things until you make your way into leading platoons, or something.

    I want to play 76 as I'm actually from WV originally.
     
  9. ResetRPG

    ResetRPG Hail Damn State

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    Dec 16, 2018
    I understand you completely man. For what it's worth, Inon Zur is a pretty great composer.
     
  10. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    One of the things I prefer about 76 to 4 is that it actually has progression for Power Armor. Its crap progression because it's based off of Borderlands style level locks, but it was my friend and I's hinging objective to construct a suit of T-51b and reach the correct level to wear it. Felt actually powerful when we suited up.

    Also one of the things interesting about 76 which I will also congratulate them for is incorporating Fallout's retrofuture. There's tonnes of weird retrofuturistic sci fi structures around West Virginia, and shit like a totally automated robot town or a gigantic gaudy space age monorail system, or big bubble shaped skyhomes in the woods. Something I would love to see in actual Fallout.
     
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  11. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
    Itd be interesting to start a thread in the mods that are so good in new vegas that they may as well be considered canon. Because there's quite a few thatd be perfect
     
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  12. Sn1p3r187

    Sn1p3r187 Carolinian Shaolin Monk

    Apr 7, 2014
    If there's any credit I'd give to bethesda on anything. I'll give em credit for world building, atmosphere, and dungeons. Im not gonna lie. The dungeons in Fallout 3 were fun and beyond worth it imo. And fallout 76 graphics wise, looks stunning and I'm 100% behind that ambient. Now if I could get a Fallout game set in the Carolinas with the atmosphere and dungeons of fallout 3, but has the amazing story writing, open choices, factions, moral dilemmas, and overall ambiguity of interplay/obsidian fallouts. Like seriously, I had a wrote a shit load of fan lore for the Carolinas region for the fallout verse
     
  13. Atomic Postman

    Atomic Postman Vault Archives Overseer

    Mar 16, 2013
    I wouldn't say worldbuilding is a strong suit of Bethesda
     
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  14. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Yeah they're actually really bad at it.

    So many people say that worldbuilding is their strong suit it makes me wonder if we're working from different definitions or something.
     
  15. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Not Gollum Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    Bethesda used to be good at worldbuilding...then they took a nuclear winter to the knee.
     
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  16. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    it will be interesting how they come out of all this with tes6 and Starfield. I hoping they turn it around for the better.
     
  17. Risewild

    Risewild Carbon Dated and Proud
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    That's a reference to Fallout Tactics Midwest Brotherhood of Steel. Even Caesar talks about the Midwest Brotherhood too.
    You see that little "fan" icon in my signature? That means I liked Fallout 3. :roffle:
     
  18. Morgan_

    Morgan_ Duckerz

    Jul 3, 2020
    What's silver kettle for?
     
  19. Iprovidelittlepianos

    Iprovidelittlepianos A Smooth-Skin

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    May 12, 2020
    I’ve heard this before but I never remember Caesar saying this. When does he say this, and what does he say exactly?

    Also, what were the two factions within the Midwestern Brotherhood fighting about?
     
  20. Millim

    Millim Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Oct 13, 2010
    Obsidian probably not only see it as canon, but they probably thought it was at least decent.
    I think we have this fiction in our heads where we believe Obsidian are some kind of 'cool kids' developer who dunk on Todd 'The Nerd' Howard, the reality is, folks there may either enjoy it a degree, or not really think much about it.
    Also, Obsidian isn't a single person with a thought, it's made up of different People and they will have their own ideas.
    Josh Sawyer for example may see it as canon, and tried to at least get a couple of references in New Vegas to at least bridge the divide between games.
    Chris Avellone may also see it as canon but doesn't acknowledge it as why would he?
    For design purposes, yes it's canon, much like how New Vegas is canon to Fallout 4, but it's up to the individual on what their head canon is.
    Maybe Josh Sawyer doesn't see it as canon and the small number of references were there so if someone wanted F3 to happen... It did. But they are vague enough to let the player make up their own mind.

    In all respects, the base proposal probably didn't have to worry as much about Fallout 3 as setting it on the other side of the Country allowed them to do their own thing.
     
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