[PCE]el_Prez
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cant believe we are still talking about miniguns... heheheh
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Wrong!
Ok sure in some RPGs thats the aim but certinly not in all. Like Fallout, is a post nuclear holocost wasteland realistic... and waht of nearly any medi-eval RPG most of them have magic... is that realistic? NO!
but then again who cares they are damn fun and we all love to play them.
for the record i think that the miniguns in fallout were modified versions of the vehical mounted types dummed down in the game to be fairer. Also in a cheesy movie i saw there was a guy named pedro who owned this hella cool litle minigun thing and he had to brace himself to fire it... but it was a comedy and when his little side kick tried to fire it he was thrown across the hall and out a window...
Ok sure in some RPGs thats the aim but certinly not in all. Like Fallout, is a post nuclear holocost wasteland realistic... and waht of nearly any medi-eval RPG most of them have magic... is that realistic? NO!
but then again who cares they are damn fun and we all love to play them.
for the record i think that the miniguns in fallout were modified versions of the vehical mounted types dummed down in the game to be fairer. Also in a cheesy movie i saw there was a guy named pedro who owned this hella cool litle minigun thing and he had to brace himself to fire it... but it was a comedy and when his little side kick tried to fire it he was thrown across the hall and out a window...
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I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-00 AT 01:44PM (GMT)[p]What's really the point in multiple barrels, when they've developed the SUPERCONDUCTOR?
Superconductor=substance that doesn't absorb heat or electricity when it passes through.
Just look at the plasma rifle, it's got a superconducting barrel.
And yeah, you can say that the miniguns were made before the plasma rifle was invented, but look at the gatling laser then. It's got multiple barrels too. And when you look at it in inventory, it says that it was put in use during the war. So the gatlings can't be older than plasma rifles.
Seems like the FO weapon designers didn't do their homework.
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-19-00 AT 01:44PM (GMT)[p]What's really the point in multiple barrels, when they've developed the SUPERCONDUCTOR?
Superconductor=substance that doesn't absorb heat or electricity when it passes through.
Just look at the plasma rifle, it's got a superconducting barrel.
And yeah, you can say that the miniguns were made before the plasma rifle was invented, but look at the gatling laser then. It's got multiple barrels too. And when you look at it in inventory, it says that it was put in use during the war. So the gatlings can't be older than plasma rifles.
Seems like the FO weapon designers didn't do their homework.
[PCE]el_Prez
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
The fallout designers probably didnt expect 42 posts on a forum basically telling them that they did a crappy job.
The fallout designers probably didnt expect 42 posts on a forum basically telling them that they did a crappy job.
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
>And yeah, you can say that
>the miniguns were made before
>the plasma rifle was invented,
>but look at the gatling
>laser then. It's got multiple
>barrels too. And when you
>look at it in inventory,
>it says that it was
>put in use during the
>war. So the gatlings can't
>be older than plasma rifles.
Lasers don't have any recoil because they use gas (in this case) to excite the photons. This then puts out a 3 megawatt beam of light capable of cutting through anything.
Also, plasma rifles and gauss weapons don't have recoil (gauss weapons fire carbon discs along magnetic rails). I have no idea how a plasma weapon would function though. Any insight onto this Xotor?
>And yeah, you can say that
>the miniguns were made before
>the plasma rifle was invented,
>but look at the gatling
>laser then. It's got multiple
>barrels too. And when you
>look at it in inventory,
>it says that it was
>put in use during the
>war. So the gatlings can't
>be older than plasma rifles.
Lasers don't have any recoil because they use gas (in this case) to excite the photons. This then puts out a 3 megawatt beam of light capable of cutting through anything.
Also, plasma rifles and gauss weapons don't have recoil (gauss weapons fire carbon discs along magnetic rails). I have no idea how a plasma weapon would function though. Any insight onto this Xotor?
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00 AT 06:46AM (GMT)[p]Gauss rifles must have recoil. How can you accelarate something without having a force push in the opposite direction ?
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00 AT 06:46AM (GMT)[p]Gauss rifles must have recoil. How can you accelarate something without having a force push in the opposite direction ?
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00 AT 06:56AM (GMT)[p]>Gauss rifles must have recoil. How
>can you accelarate something without
>having a force push in
>the opposite direction ?
It uses magnetism to get it spinning fast enough to accelerate:
<--<--<--<--<--<--
----->(launched spinning disc)
>-->-->-->-->-->--
/*Edit:
If you hit a paper thin carbon disc with a hammer it'll shatter
[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00 AT 06:56AM (GMT)[p]>Gauss rifles must have recoil. How
>can you accelarate something without
>having a force push in
>the opposite direction ?
It uses magnetism to get it spinning fast enough to accelerate:
<--<--<--<--<--<--
----->(launched spinning disc)
>-->-->-->-->-->--
/*Edit:
If you hit a paper thin carbon disc with a hammer it'll shatter
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
Why do lasers have barrels anyway?
Why do lasers have barrels anyway?
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Lasers need no barrels
A laser doesn't need a barrel. A gun has a barrel because otherwise the gun would become inaccurate. You can aim a laser with a mirror, it doesn't matter wether you use a barrel or not. the only use you would have for a barrel is to point the gun in the right direction, or to balance the gun. If you used a bent fiberglass barrel would allow you to shoot around corners. But those are all extra's. I guess the only reason they put barrels on the gatling laser is to make it look like something.
A laser doesn't need a barrel. A gun has a barrel because otherwise the gun would become inaccurate. You can aim a laser with a mirror, it doesn't matter wether you use a barrel or not. the only use you would have for a barrel is to point the gun in the right direction, or to balance the gun. If you used a bent fiberglass barrel would allow you to shoot around corners. But those are all extra's. I guess the only reason they put barrels on the gatling laser is to make it look like something.
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RE: Lasers need no barrels
That's what i meant. And at least it doesn't need multiple barrels.
but i guess it just looks cool.
That's what i meant. And at least it doesn't need multiple barrels.
but i guess it just looks cool.
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RE: Lasers need no barrels
>That's what i meant. And at
>least it doesn't need multiple
>barrels.
>
>but i guess it just looks
>cool.
The gatling laser should just shoot 1 second bursts out of all barrels at the same time
>That's what i meant. And at
>least it doesn't need multiple
>barrels.
>
>but i guess it just looks
>cool.
The gatling laser should just shoot 1 second bursts out of all barrels at the same time
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hehhehehehe
all you guys are funny.
all you guys are funny.
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
How can it be accelerated by simply spinning around? I thought it used magnets pointing outwards the barrel to just launch the disc away.
How can it be accelerated by simply spinning around? I thought it used magnets pointing outwards the barrel to just launch the disc away.
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RE: I don't believe i'm bringing this up again, but...
Ask someone who has a more in depth knowledge of railguns than me, but I know that's how that part works.
Ask someone who has a more in depth knowledge of railguns than me, but I know that's how that part works.
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plasmas
Plasma weapons work by generating plasma with a mini-accelerator thingie and using a magnetic field to guide the beam. Wish i had one of those...
Plasma weapons work by generating plasma with a mini-accelerator thingie and using a magnetic field to guide the beam. Wish i had one of those...
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RE: plasmas
I think you mean torus by 'a mini-accelerator thingie'. Next time choose your words more carefully so you appear like you know somewhat about the topic at hand
I think you mean torus by 'a mini-accelerator thingie'. Next time choose your words more carefully so you appear like you know somewhat about the topic at hand
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Sorry Smack, that's not how they work...
>[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00
>AT 06:56 AM (GMT)
>
>>Gauss rifles must have recoil. How
>>can you accelarate something without
>>having a force push in
>>the opposite direction ?
>
>It uses magnetism to get it
>spinning fast enough to accelerate:
>
>
><--<--<--<--<--<--
> ----->(launched spinning disc)
>>-->-->-->-->-->--
Railguns work on the priciple that if you pass a large current through an object a magnetic field forms perpendicular to the flow of electricity.
Here is a diagram of a basic railgun from top-down:
[pre]
_ Current Flow ->
=| |============================== <-\
| | Rails
=|_|============================== <-/
<- Current Flow
[/pre]
The bar on the left is the object to be accelerated and the magnetic field is pointing towards you (or away, I can't remember which way).
Anyway, you then add a magnetic field on top and bottom of the rails with the object and the object moves like it were a linear motor (which it really is.
The magnets are usually electromagnets and are timed so they only *contribute* to the acceleration rather than hinder it.
As for recoil, I don't know, probably a lot for a strong railgun.
The max speed something has been accelerated with a railgun was about 2km/s which is powerful enough to flip a tank with a graphite disk, but not powerful enough to launch ships into orbit, therefore the project was abandoned.
The reason it can't go any faster is that the rails burn up from plasma generated from the movement of the object on the rails and the high current used, also, the plasma slows the object down.
-Xotor-
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>[font size=1" color="#FF0000]LAST EDITED ON Sep-21-00
>AT 06:56 AM (GMT)
>
>>Gauss rifles must have recoil. How
>>can you accelarate something without
>>having a force push in
>>the opposite direction ?
>
>It uses magnetism to get it
>spinning fast enough to accelerate:
>
>
><--<--<--<--<--<--
> ----->(launched spinning disc)
>>-->-->-->-->-->--
Railguns work on the priciple that if you pass a large current through an object a magnetic field forms perpendicular to the flow of electricity.
Here is a diagram of a basic railgun from top-down:
[pre]
_ Current Flow ->
=| |============================== <-\
| | Rails
=|_|============================== <-/
<- Current Flow
[/pre]
The bar on the left is the object to be accelerated and the magnetic field is pointing towards you (or away, I can't remember which way).
Anyway, you then add a magnetic field on top and bottom of the rails with the object and the object moves like it were a linear motor (which it really is.
The magnets are usually electromagnets and are timed so they only *contribute* to the acceleration rather than hinder it.
As for recoil, I don't know, probably a lot for a strong railgun.
The max speed something has been accelerated with a railgun was about 2km/s which is powerful enough to flip a tank with a graphite disk, but not powerful enough to launch ships into orbit, therefore the project was abandoned.
The reason it can't go any faster is that the rails burn up from plasma generated from the movement of the object on the rails and the high current used, also, the plasma slows the object down.
-Xotor-
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RE: Sorry Smack, that's not how they work...
>Railguns work on the priciple that
>if you pass a large
>current through an object a
>magnetic field forms perpendicular to
>the flow of electricity.
>
>Here is a diagram of a
>basic railgun from top-down:
>
>[pre]
> _ Current Flow ->
>=| |============================== <-\
> | |
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Rails
>=|_|============================== <-/
>
>
> <-
>Current Flow
>
>[/pre]
My diagram looks somewhat like that At least I drew the currents in there.
>The bar on the left is
>the object to be accelerated
>and the magnetic field is
>pointing towards you (or away,
>I can't remember which way).
>
>
>Anyway, you then add a magnetic
>field on top and bottom
>of the rails with the
>object and the object moves
>like it were a linear
>motor (which it really is.
>
>
>The magnets are usually electromagnets and
>are timed so they only
>*contribute* to the acceleration rather
>than hinder it.
>
>As for recoil, I don't know,
>probably a lot for a
>strong railgun.
>
>The max speed something has been
>accelerated with a railgun was
>about 2km/s which is powerful
>enough to flip a tank
>with a graphite disk, but
>not powerful enough to launch
>ships into orbit, therefore the
>project was abandoned.
>
>The reason it can't go any
>faster is that the rails
>burn up from plasma generated
>from the movement of the
>object on the rails and
>the high current used, also,
>the plasma slows the object
>down.
I knew everything apart from the max speed. Thanks Xotor!
>Railguns work on the priciple that
>if you pass a large
>current through an object a
>magnetic field forms perpendicular to
>the flow of electricity.
>
>Here is a diagram of a
>basic railgun from top-down:
>
>[pre]
> _ Current Flow ->
>=| |============================== <-\
> | |
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Rails
>=|_|============================== <-/
>
>
> <-
>Current Flow
>
>[/pre]
My diagram looks somewhat like that
At least I drew the currents in there.>The bar on the left is
>the object to be accelerated
>and the magnetic field is
>pointing towards you (or away,
>I can't remember which way).
>
>
>Anyway, you then add a magnetic
>field on top and bottom
>of the rails with the
>object and the object moves
>like it were a linear
>motor (which it really is.
>
>
>The magnets are usually electromagnets and
>are timed so they only
>*contribute* to the acceleration rather
>than hinder it.
>
>As for recoil, I don't know,
>probably a lot for a
>strong railgun.
>
>The max speed something has been
>accelerated with a railgun was
>about 2km/s which is powerful
>enough to flip a tank
>with a graphite disk, but
>not powerful enough to launch
>ships into orbit, therefore the
>project was abandoned.
>
>The reason it can't go any
>faster is that the rails
>burn up from plasma generated
>from the movement of the
>object on the rails and
>the high current used, also,
>the plasma slows the object
>down.
I knew everything apart from the max speed. Thanks Xotor!
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So...
about the fact that the rails burn up...
But if they have developed superconductors the rails wouldn't burn up.
This was off topic. I know Xotor's message was about today's railguns.
about the fact that the rails burn up...
But if they have developed superconductors the rails wouldn't burn up.
This was off topic. I know Xotor's message was about today's railguns.
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RE: So...
>about the fact that the rails
>burn up...
>
>But if they have developed superconductors
>the rails wouldn't burn up.
>This was off topic. I know
>Xotor's message was about today's
>railguns.
Superconducting material would have no effect on it. It is the fact that the object is moving on the rails that creates the plasma. That's why many people rub graphite on the rails so they are very slick.
-Xotor-
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>about the fact that the rails
>burn up...
>
>But if they have developed superconductors
>the rails wouldn't burn up.
>This was off topic. I know
>Xotor's message was about today's
>railguns.
Superconducting material would have no effect on it. It is the fact that the object is moving on the rails that creates the plasma. That's why many people rub graphite on the rails so they are very slick.
-Xotor-
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